Station Wagons Help

[Anton80]

I'm in the market to buy a second hand station wagon in Manila, which would you recommend for a budget of 250k to 400k?

[seonadancing]

Konti lang station wagon dito e. You can choose to buy the Legacy, Optra wagon, ano pa ba... Nissan california? hehe. The nicer wagons are German made so medyo malayo sa budget mo.

[3ple4]

I think with that budget, you can buy a 2nd-hand Opel Astra or Vectra ba yun? (baba ng resale value mga Opel ngayon)

[alwayz_yummy]

yup pasok ang astra(1.6L)..pero medyo mahirap sa parts,pero compared sa vectra(cd-2.0 and cdx-2.5), mas ok na choice ang astra. dagdag ka ng konti, zafira na(1.8L at dual aircon 7-seater pa!).

sure na madali at pasok sa budget mo ay:
suzuki esteem wagon(1.6, a/t,m/t),
legacy(a/t,m/t 2.0 efi 4wd pa to),
spacewagons(local->1.8L m/t,a/t or converted->1.8/2.0/2.0T/2.0TD, fwd/awd, may dual aircon ung iba..pero both are 7seaters pa!).

california is kinda old na,e...pero sukli mo pangayos at pangporma!

ung astina/323f/626hatch are hatches,e...

old german statios....80's-early 90's pasok dyan.

[rockinrobin]

You might want to consider to get a Volvo. Naka Volvo ako rin With the budget you mentioned you can choose from a V40 or an 850 wagon.

[theveed]

Mitsu Space Wagon pinakamadami...

[alwayz_yummy]

nga pala, volvo..pero kasi ayaw ko ung dating volvo v70/850 wagon, especially kung black!, it reminds me of.....

v40 is good looking too...pasok din.1.8L, may 2.0 din..alam ko may t5 version din.

alamko rare din ang volvo v4w/headlight washers, pero karamihan, wala.

[niky]

At your price range, the best bets would be an Opel Astra wagon or a Suzuki Esteem if you want a traditional looking wagon. The Astra looks better, IMHO. Parts for either are limited to very specific dealers (you'll have to ask other owners where to shop), but ownership isn't that expensive.

The Opel Vectra might be a bit more difficult to maintain. There are many horror stories about the Vectra, both here and abroad...

Volvo parts are relatively expensive, and depending on the trim and model, might be very hard to maintain. If you get a Mitsubishi Carisma-based model like the old S40/V40, it might be a better proposition.

The Subaru Legacy Wagon may be expensive to maintain, and being a 2.0 AWD, will be less fuel-efficient than the Astra or Esteem. Of course, it's a nice car, and the AWD is good for some light trail-riding.

The easiest wagon to get would be a spacewagon. Some people complain about the fuel consumption, as it is a carburated 1.8, but I found it relatively okay when I drove one around. Though it looks like an MPV, it drives a lot like a Lancer, and interior room is very good.

[alwayz_yummy]

sir niky, ung last local models ng spacewagon(ung clear lens lights na) efi na sila..better kung manual than a/t...less iisipin pa.

vote ko:

spacewagon(or chariot),esteem....subbie legacy, v40, astra medyo mahirap-hirap and expensive ang parts, and limited ang nakakalam magayos..pero ang all-rounder sa lahat is the subaru legacy(2.0 boxer engine,awd, manual has hill-hold!)

[basti08]

halos lahat ng choices hirap i-maintain...

-Volvo V40
-Volvo 850 (i believe the V70 is still not within the range)
-Opel Astra
-Opel Vectra
-Subaru Legacy
-Suzuki Esteem

with possible exception of the Mistubishi Space Wagon.

if you like the choices above except the Space Wagon, i'd just pick a W124 Mercedes Benz 230TE... kung mahal din lang ang maintenance dito na ako sa Benz na ito, W124 is the most reliable Benz IMO. it has lots of space, decent performance, style and comfort....

...plus its a Benz! ;)

[niky]

The Astra and the Esteem are just a little less difficult to maintain, but it's relatively hard to source the parts.

Ah, if the last Spacewagons were EFI, they get my vote. Good handling, good power, good space. Fun little cars!

[alwayz_yummy]

space wagon talaga. well, for me,ha, pwede ung last models, 1 engine choice:1.8L, 1 trim only, front aircon only, m/t and most are a/t..

or ung JDM, ung may choice ka 1.8L,2.0L-gas and ung expensive 2.0-turbo diesel...pero bibihira ang manual, karamihan matic..FWD and AWD available. all disc brakes or front-only disc brakes, may single/dual aircon..

and may 1 model dun sa plaridel, naka crystalite roof(jdm top-of-the-line), pero 2.4L gas engine,e...tapos dito sa may amin, may mga naka resort-runner(semi-high roof) 4g63 and 4g63t.

or go with sir basti's suggestion: ung benz wagon.mas iba pa ang dating mo!teka diba may diesel na benz wagon na diniscribe ni sir basti?

[mfo]

I would be biased about this You can get naman an Opel Astra with trouble free experience kasi some of us at clubopel know some parts na that would save you a lot, but if you've got outher choice's as to what our tsikoteer's have mentioned all of them are ok

[alwayz_yummy]

sir mfo, may source kayong alam? one reason kasi kaya di ko masyado noong naconsider ang astra wagon and zafira,e...na gusto ko din.. e ung bagong opel wagon type ko din sa looks,e..

[vinj]

I'd go with the last of the Spacewagons (1998-1999). 1.8L EFI. We used to have one and we were happy.. main complaint was the a/c could have been stronger.

[mfo]

sir mfo, may source kayong alam? one reason kasi kaya di ko masyado noong naconsider ang astra wagon and zafira,e...na gusto ko din.. e ung bagong opel wagon type ko din sa looks,e..

Yes you could visit us at www.clubopelph.com , Maganda ung bagong Astra, Sleek look with it's matching performance ok siya



You could also opt for it's modified version, on which it's rival cars are the Renault Megane, Ford Focus ST, Golf GTI





Sayang wala nga lang dito niyan.

[basti08]

space wagon talaga. well, for me,ha, pwede ung last models, 1 engine choice:1.8L, 1 trim only, front aircon only, m/t and most are a/t..

or ung JDM, ung may choice ka 1.8L,2.0L-gas and ung expensive 2.0-turbo diesel...pero bibihira ang manual, karamihan matic..FWD and AWD available. all disc brakes or front-only disc brakes, may single/dual aircon..

and may 1 model dun sa plaridel, naka crystalite roof(jdm top-of-the-line), pero 2.4L gas engine,e...tapos dito sa may amin, may mga naka resort-runner(semi-high roof) 4g63 and 4g63t.

or go with sir basti's suggestion: ung benz wagon.mas iba pa ang dating mo!teka diba may diesel na benz wagon na diniscribe ni sir basti?

yup, may diesel ng W124 Benz wagon, the 230TD. anyway, close 2nd to me lalo na yung later 2-toned models with 14" 3 spoke alloy wheels. the Space Wagon offers flexible seating, lots of cupholders, 1.8L EFi engine and reliability and cheap maintenance.

[alwayz_yummy]

mas ok yan, pero ang ayaw ko lang talaga sa old german station wagons, mukhang....

sir mfo, pati ba chevy natin dito may members kayo?

sir vinj, di talaga kakayanin ng single air ang spacewagon, ang haba kasi ng interior compared sa sedan...kaya ung jdms dual,e...

[mfo]

mas ok yan, pero ang ayaw ko lang talaga sa old german station wagons, mukhang....

sir mfo, pati ba chevy natin dito may members kayo?

sir vinj, di talaga kakayanin ng single air ang spacewagon, ang haba kasi ng interior compared sa sedan...kaya ung jdms dual,e...

Im not sure kung merong may mga naka chevy din sa ClubOpel, i guess meron pero i'm just not sure.

[basti08]

hirap lang kase makahanap ng right engine, tranny combo sa JDM eh...

pero features wise mas ok nga. kung sana may dual AC yung locals...ok na sana.