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    https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...190624666.html


    More than 30,000 people a year still die on American roads, and while that toll has been steadily declining for a decade, it still represents a massive, unending tragedy. Around the world, those figures are climbing, as more people spend more time behind the wheel. Nothing drives advocates of tech such as driverless cars like the potential for sharply reducing the cost in human lives of driving.

    Today came a piece of good news in that fight: We are closer than we thought to cars that could prevent all their drivers from dying in a wreck. The bad news? There's still decades of work ahead.

    The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, the research arm of the nation's auto insurance companies, studied driver deaths between 2009 and 2012 for mass-market vehicles. (It did not examine passenger deaths due to unreliable data.) Overall, it found that new models with newer technology, especially stability control, had cut the overall death rate in vehicles by a third in the three years since it had last run the numbers. Had vehicle tech been frozen at 1985 levels, the IIHS estimates by 2012 an additional 7,700 people would have died in crashes.

    Vehicle
    Deaths per million registered vehicle years
    Multi-vehicle crashes Single-vehicle crashes Rollovers
    Audi A4 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Honda Odyssey 0 0 0 0
    Kia Sorento 2WD 0 0 0 0
    Lexus RX 350 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Mercedes-Benz GL-Class 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Subaru Legacy 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Toyota Highlander hybrid 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Toyota Sequoia 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Volvo XC90 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Honda Pilot 4WD 2 0 2 0
    Mercedes-Benz M-Class 4WD 3 3 0 0
    Ford Crown Victoria 4 4 0 0
    GMC Yukon 4WD 4 0 4 0
    Acura TL 2WD 5 5 0 0
    Chevrolet Equinox 2WD 5 3 2 0
    Chevrolet Equinox 4WD 5 5 0 0
    Ford Expedition 4WD 5 5 0 0
    Ford Flex 2WD 5 0 5 0
    Mazda CX-9 4WD 5 0 5 5
    The IIHS calculates its death rate per years registered of a particular model; the industry average is 28 deaths per one million registered years for 2011 models in 2012; in 2008, the rate was 48. When it dug deeper, the IIHS found nine 2011 models that had no recorded deaths of drivers — the first time the group had found any such vehicles. Six of them were SUVs; overall, SUVs had the lowest death rates of any vehicle type, mostly due to the mandate of electronic stability controls and the physics of larger vehicles offering more protection from the forces of a crash than smaller ones. (Compared to 2004 models, SUVs from the 2011 model-year on have a rollover rate that's 75 percent less.)

    But the IIHS also gave out a warning that the gap betwen the best and the worst cars at preventing fatal crashes had widened. The rates in the IIHS study are corrected for demographics (young drivers who typically buy smaller vehicles tend to crash more frequently) but even after that adjustment, small cars dominate the most lethal list:

    Vehicle
    Deaths per million registered vehicle years
    Multi-vehicle crashes Single-vehicle crashes Rollovers
    Kia Rio 149 96 54 15
    Nissan Versa sedan 130 44 87 51
    Hyundai Accent 120 65 53 16
    Chevrolet Aveo 99 65 31 10
    Hyundai Accent 86 43 48 20
    Chevrolet Camaro coupe 80 19 60 25
    Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Crew 4WD 79 40 36 17
    Honda Civic 76 46 29 10
    Nissan Versa hatchback 71 37 33 20
    Ford Focus 70 55 13 5
    Nissan Cube 66 38 29 6
    Chevrolet HHR 61 34 25 9
    Chevrolet Suburban 1500 2WD 60 31 28 9
    Chevrolet Aveo 58 58 0 0
    Mercury Grand Marquis 57 33 25 0
    Jeep Patriot 2WD 57 44 9 3
    Mazda 6 54 34 17 3
    Dodge Nitro 2WD 51 7 50 40
    Honda Civic 49 28 21 8
    "The complete elimination of traffic deaths is still many decades away, and, along with vehicle improvements, getting there will require changes in road design and public policy that can help protect all road users," said David Zuby, IIHS executive vice president and chief research officer. "Still, the rise in the number of vehicles with zero driver deaths shows what's possible."

    The newest vehicles have gone well beyond stability control to include tricks like automatic emergency braking and radar-based cruise control to slow down the vehicle automatically in traffic. The safety benefits of those technologies have not yet been fully measured, but their real benefit may not become visible until they're available outside luxury models — especially the small cars that still pose the greatest risk.

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    Driving conditions in the Philippines, is unlike in first world countries.

    Is there even a statistic on local vehicle safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonub View Post
    https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...190624666.html


    More than 30,000 people a year still die on American roads, and while that toll has been steadily declining for a decade, it still represents a massive, unending tragedy. Around the world, those figures are climbing, as more people spend more time behind the wheel. Nothing drives advocates of tech such as driverless cars like the potential for sharply reducing the cost in human lives of driving.

    Today came a piece of good news in that fight: We are closer than we thought to cars that could prevent all their drivers from dying in a wreck. The bad news? There's still decades of work ahead.

    The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, the research arm of the nation's auto insurance companies, studied driver deaths between 2009 and 2012 for mass-market vehicles. (It did not examine passenger deaths due to unreliable data.) Overall, it found that new models with newer technology, especially stability control, had cut the overall death rate in vehicles by a third in the three years since it had last run the numbers. Had vehicle tech been frozen at 1985 levels, the IIHS estimates by 2012 an additional 7,700 people would have died in crashes.

    Vehicle
    Deaths per million registered vehicle years
    Multi-vehicle crashes Single-vehicle crashes Rollovers
    Audi A4 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Honda Odyssey 0 0 0 0
    Kia Sorento 2WD 0 0 0 0
    Lexus RX 350 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Mercedes-Benz GL-Class 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Subaru Legacy 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Toyota Highlander hybrid 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Toyota Sequoia 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Volvo XC90 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Honda Pilot 4WD 2 0 2 0
    Mercedes-Benz M-Class 4WD 3 3 0 0
    Ford Crown Victoria 4 4 0 0
    GMC Yukon 4WD 4 0 4 0
    Acura TL 2WD 5 5 0 0
    Chevrolet Equinox 2WD 5 3 2 0
    Chevrolet Equinox 4WD 5 5 0 0
    Ford Expedition 4WD 5 5 0 0
    Ford Flex 2WD 5 0 5 0
    Mazda CX-9 4WD 5 0 5 5
    The IIHS calculates its death rate per years registered of a particular model; the industry average is 28 deaths per one million registered years for 2011 models in 2012; in 2008, the rate was 48. When it dug deeper, the IIHS found nine 2011 models that had no recorded deaths of drivers — the first time the group had found any such vehicles. Six of them were SUVs; overall, SUVs had the lowest death rates of any vehicle type, mostly due to the mandate of electronic stability controls and the physics of larger vehicles offering more protection from the forces of a crash than smaller ones. (Compared to 2004 models, SUVs from the 2011 model-year on have a rollover rate that's 75 percent less.)

    But the IIHS also gave out a warning that the gap betwen the best and the worst cars at preventing fatal crashes had widened. The rates in the IIHS study are corrected for demographics (young drivers who typically buy smaller vehicles tend to crash more frequently) but even after that adjustment, small cars dominate the most lethal list:

    Vehicle
    Deaths per million registered vehicle years
    Multi-vehicle crashes Single-vehicle crashes Rollovers
    Kia Rio 149 96 54 15
    Nissan Versa sedan 130 44 87 51
    Hyundai Accent 120 65 53 16
    Chevrolet Aveo 99 65 31 10
    Hyundai Accent 86 43 48 20
    Chevrolet Camaro coupe 80 19 60 25
    Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Crew 4WD 79 40 36 17
    Honda Civic 76 46 29 10
    Nissan Versa hatchback 71 37 33 20
    Ford Focus 70 55 13 5
    Nissan Cube 66 38 29 6
    Chevrolet HHR 61 34 25 9
    Chevrolet Suburban 1500 2WD 60 31 28 9
    Chevrolet Aveo 58 58 0 0
    Mercury Grand Marquis 57 33 25 0
    Jeep Patriot 2WD 57 44 9 3
    Mazda 6 54 34 17 3
    Dodge Nitro 2WD 51 7 50 40
    Honda Civic 49 28 21 8
    "The complete elimination of traffic deaths is still many decades away, and, along with vehicle improvements, getting there will require changes in road design and public policy that can help protect all road users," said David Zuby, IIHS executive vice president and chief research officer. "Still, the rise in the number of vehicles with zero driver deaths shows what's possible."

    The newest vehicles have gone well beyond stability control to include tricks like automatic emergency braking and radar-based cruise control to slow down the vehicle automatically in traffic. The safety benefits of those technologies have not yet been fully measured, but their real benefit may not become visible until they're available outside luxury models — especially the small cars that still pose the greatest risk.
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    Driving conditions in the Philippines, is unlike in first world countries.

    Is there even a statistic on local vehicle safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonub View Post
    https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...190624666.html


    More than 30,000 people a year still die on American roads, and while that toll has been steadily declining for a decade, it still represents a massive, unending tragedy. Around the world, those figures are climbing, as more people spend more time behind the wheel. Nothing drives advocates of tech such as driverless cars like the potential for sharply reducing the cost in human lives of driving.

    Today came a piece of good news in that fight: We are closer than we thought to cars that could prevent all their drivers from dying in a wreck. The bad news? There's still decades of work ahead.

    The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, the research arm of the nation's auto insurance companies, studied driver deaths between 2009 and 2012 for mass-market vehicles. (It did not examine passenger deaths due to unreliable data.) Overall, it found that new models with newer technology, especially stability control, had cut the overall death rate in vehicles by a third in the three years since it had last run the numbers. Had vehicle tech been frozen at 1985 levels, the IIHS estimates by 2012 an additional 7,700 people would have died in crashes.

    Vehicle
    Deaths per million registered vehicle years
    Multi-vehicle crashes Single-vehicle crashes Rollovers
    Audi A4 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Honda Odyssey 0 0 0 0
    Kia Sorento 2WD 0 0 0 0
    Lexus RX 350 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Mercedes-Benz GL-Class 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Subaru Legacy 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Toyota Highlander hybrid 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Toyota Sequoia 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Volvo XC90 4WD 0 0 0 0
    Honda Pilot 4WD 2 0 2 0
    Mercedes-Benz M-Class 4WD 3 3 0 0
    Ford Crown Victoria 4 4 0 0
    GMC Yukon 4WD 4 0 4 0
    Acura TL 2WD 5 5 0 0
    Chevrolet Equinox 2WD 5 3 2 0
    Chevrolet Equinox 4WD 5 5 0 0
    Ford Expedition 4WD 5 5 0 0
    Ford Flex 2WD 5 0 5 0
    Mazda CX-9 4WD 5 0 5 5
    The IIHS calculates its death rate per years registered of a particular model; the industry average is 28 deaths per one million registered years for 2011 models in 2012; in 2008, the rate was 48. When it dug deeper, the IIHS found nine 2011 models that had no recorded deaths of drivers — the first time the group had found any such vehicles. Six of them were SUVs; overall, SUVs had the lowest death rates of any vehicle type, mostly due to the mandate of electronic stability controls and the physics of larger vehicles offering more protection from the forces of a crash than smaller ones. (Compared to 2004 models, SUVs from the 2011 model-year on have a rollover rate that's 75 percent less.)

    But the IIHS also gave out a warning that the gap betwen the best and the worst cars at preventing fatal crashes had widened. The rates in the IIHS study are corrected for demographics (young drivers who typically buy smaller vehicles tend to crash more frequently) but even after that adjustment, small cars dominate the most lethal list:

    Vehicle
    Deaths per million registered vehicle years
    Multi-vehicle crashes Single-vehicle crashes Rollovers
    Kia Rio 149 96 54 15
    Nissan Versa sedan 130 44 87 51
    Hyundai Accent 120 65 53 16
    Chevrolet Aveo 99 65 31 10
    Hyundai Accent 86 43 48 20
    Chevrolet Camaro coupe 80 19 60 25
    Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Crew 4WD 79 40 36 17
    Honda Civic 76 46 29 10
    Nissan Versa hatchback 71 37 33 20
    Ford Focus 70 55 13 5
    Nissan Cube 66 38 29 6
    Chevrolet HHR 61 34 25 9
    Chevrolet Suburban 1500 2WD 60 31 28 9
    Chevrolet Aveo 58 58 0 0
    Mercury Grand Marquis 57 33 25 0
    Jeep Patriot 2WD 57 44 9 3
    Mazda 6 54 34 17 3
    Dodge Nitro 2WD 51 7 50 40
    Honda Civic 49 28 21 8
    "The complete elimination of traffic deaths is still many decades away, and, along with vehicle improvements, getting there will require changes in road design and public policy that can help protect all road users," said David Zuby, IIHS executive vice president and chief research officer. "Still, the rise in the number of vehicles with zero driver deaths shows what's possible."

    The newest vehicles have gone well beyond stability control to include tricks like automatic emergency braking and radar-based cruise control to slow down the vehicle automatically in traffic. The safety benefits of those technologies have not yet been fully measured, but their real benefit may not become visible until they're available outside luxury models — especially the small cars that still pose the greatest risk.

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    The collision avoidance system might have to be reprogrammed for the Philippines. For one, our drivers go counter flow, our drivers straddle between lanes, have two cars traveling at the same direction on the same lane, too many jaywalkers, many street vendors both on foot or "fixed" to the sidewalk and jeepneys and buses pickup and unload passengers just about anywhere they please

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    Our drivers usually survive crashes

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    am i over-reading that list, when i say that the smaller vehicles seem to be "more dangerous" than the larger vehicles..?
    i'm not familiar with a number of those cars' sizes...

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    It's the engineeringand quality, not the size. A Smart car by Mercedes Benz is safer than a Mustang

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    Easy, a truck hits your small car it ends up as a pancake and so will you. The larger car or truck wont.

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    Speaking of crash test not crush test or being hit by a truck. Example : watch the crash test of a smart car to what people think is like a battle tank-the 1957 Chevy belair on youtube
    Last edited by jick.cejoco; February 1st, 2015 at 04:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    am i over-reading that list, when i say that the smaller vehicles seem to be "more dangerous" than the larger vehicles..?
    i'm not familiar with a number of those cars' sizes...
    Basically.

    Of course, 149 deaths per 1,000,000 vehicle years... given most cars in the USA are kept about ten years, is still a 0.0015% chance of dying in the car in any given year... or 0.015% over ten years.

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    Also, note, demographics play a big part here... can't discount the fact that an Audi A4 driver (older, more conservative) is typically less likely to crash than some kid who paid bottom dollar for a bare-spec Kia Rio or Nissan Versa (which is cheaper than the Mirage in the US).

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Not surprising.......

    Kids tend to be more reckless. They get drunk more behind the wheel. They also tend to speed more. They treat their little economy cars as if they're Hemi-powered high-speed cruisers.

    Here, I've seen an increase in little crosses by the road which mark a fatality. A lot of them have little toys/mementos attached.

    What's sad is there's no texting/cellphone law here (Arizona) yet.

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