Odometer Rollback Or Pitik

[andrew_ph]

How to determine if odometer was rollback? Is buy and sell group or association doing something to prevent this? they will also suffer at the end coz no one will trust them.

I myself is very hesitant to buy a used car from an agent or dealer coz of what i've heard about odometer rollback.

[andrew_ph]

ala nag comment iwas ata bka puro agent ah
salamat pero tlamak na talaga ata odometer rollback sino pa
magtitiwala sa kanila unless na baguhin nila ang kanilang
pamamaraan.

Sino nawawalan e di sila rin, pagtagal-tagal ewan ko lang kung makabenta
pa sila kung dinadaya nila mga legitimate buyer wherein their hard
earn money will go to waste.

Not only the agent, some rich peope also go to well known auto
repair shop to adjust their odometer and then sell their car, my bro
told me.

[niky]

ala nag comment iwas ata bka puro agent ah
salamat pero tlamak na talaga ata odometer rollback sino pa
magtitiwala sa kanila unless na baguhin nila ang kanilang
pamamaraan.

Sino nawawalan e di sila rin, pagtagal-tagal ewan ko lang kung makabenta
pa sila kung dinadaya nila mga legitimate buyer wherein their hard
earn money will go to waste.

Not only the agent, some rich peope also go to well known auto
repair shop to adjust their odometer and then sell their car, my bro
told me.

Be patient. It's the weekend, and not many of the senior members are on.

Personally, I don't know of any sure-fire way to tell whether an odometer is rolled-back or not. The best, I guess, is to inspect everything else and see if it looks as "fresh" and "new" as the odometer says it should be.

The odometer is only one factor to consider. Maraming de-gasgas at inabusong sasakyan na medyo konti lang ang kilometro sa odo, at mayroong mga alagang-alaga at magandang condition na sasakyan na mataas ang reading sa odo.

[RedHorse]

Be patient. It's the weekend, and not many of the senior members are on.

Personally, I don't know of any sure-fire way to tell whether an odometer is rolled-back or not. The best, I guess, is to inspect everything else and see if it looks as "fresh" and "new" as the odometer says it should be.

The odometer is only one factor to consider. Maraming de-gasgas at inabusong sasakyan na medyo konti lang ang kilometro sa odo, at mayroong mga alagang-alaga at magandang condition na sasakyan na mataas ang reading sa odo.

steering wheel color and its finish, ito ang nakakaligtaan ayusin he he he

[flakez]

yun din turo sa akin, tingnan ung steering wheel kung laspag na. ung tipong hindi na kapit ung goma don sa wheel mismo. kaso yari ka naman kung pinalita ung steering wheel. hehehe

[fireblade]

Sad to say, there i sno law protecting consumers against this fraudulent act. I have seen this in my previous close to purchase transactions. I always look for the service record and again, this is not fool-proof. Twice I have verified the service record with the casa and twice it was proven that even the service records are tampered. It is good to know people from the delaerships so they may let you peek at the supposed records of the cars they have serviced.

One time I almost purchased a RAV4 that was previously owned by the actor Marvin Agustin. It was displayed in Caltex Alabang and it was really spanking clean in and out. I read the odometer at 128t but you will not see any signs of abuse. A week later I saw it again in Greenhills (Cars r US yata yung sa may EDSA near Camp Crame and Ford Edsa) and now the odometer is down to around 65t. When I checked with the dealership, not only was it fake but they also reset the meter. Of course it wasnt the fault of the previous owner but the buy and sell dealer who had it reset. I was told that they can even do digital meter at P7500. Also, my brother bought a Ford Expedition which had low mileage and only a few months later, the digits are no longer visible and the digits appearance have become erratic.

Eto pa, when i was selling my Honda Hyper Vtec motorcyle in another forum site, a fellow forumer offered odometer resettig at P2500. Since then, I never wanted to see his face anymore as this was pure cheating.

Lesson here is be more vigilant and resourceful in finding out th ehistory of the car that you are buying. Their apperance can only tell you a little but a thorough check should be practiced. Don't be in a rush to make that decision as there thousands of units being sold.HTH.

[andrew_ph]

thanks mga bro at least pag informed mga buyer, maiiwasan ganyan mga klaseng agent or dealer, hindi naman lahat syempre kahit pano meron pa rin na straight dyan.

thanks.

[andrew_ph]

my bro told me one way to check if odometer has been tampered is by checking if there is finger print inside, but he said if the person who did the job is professional and very careful, then you wouldnt find a clue that it has been tampered.

[niky]

my bro told me one way to check if odometer has been tampered is by checking if there is finger print inside, but he said if the person who did the job is professional and very careful, then you wouldnt find a clue that it has been tampered.

You don't even need to hold the inside of the odometer. You can swap odometers with lower mileage vehicles or from the tons of spare parts available at Evang or Banaue... and like fireblade says, even digital odometers can be tampered.

I've read stories by owners who've actually accidentally reset their digital odometers. There really is no way to be sure. That's why it's more important to see the condition of the rest of the vehicle, instead of relying on the "low mileage" claims in sale ads.

[squala]

There's really no assurance of untampered odometers. Perhaps the only thing that can somehow serve as evidence that the reading is authentic is the latest maintenance records. You can check the date and mileage of the last checkup.

If you ask me, I would not care that much about mileage. I'd rather look onto more critical factors like engine, suspension and interior wear-and-tear. A good mechanic should be able to help you determine the condition of the first two, and as for the third one, here are some helpful tips:

1. Have any seat cover removed to check if the original uphostery is still intact. The seller may ask you to have them removed instead, so it should be pretty reasonable. If he/she refuses at all, go find another car.

2. The sound system should be good. Ask a sound expert friend to help you find out if the speakers are still ok or already need replacement. If the head unit is CD, ask the owner if it can play burned or pirated discs. You can also check the user manual of the unit. If it doesn't, then at least it should play an original without any problems. You may want to bring your own disc. Also, play the last track because normally, if this plays perfectly, the other tracks will too.

3. The steering wheel is better without any previous aftermarket wraps installed. It will make it 'perspire' and wear out prematurely. Also, grip the top part of the wheel and try moving it back and forth to see if it's still glued properly to the metal frame inside.

Hope this helps you.



P.S. Wag kang magparinig next time kung walang reply kaagad ok? There are many experts posting here and they can help you with proper courtesy on your part. Almost all threads are replied to here, even stupid ones, and since yours isn't anyway, patience is a virtue, as Niky said.

[buraot]

pwede palang ibalik un? ngayon ko lang nalaman un, ah...hehehe...

[Hanren]

Garapalan na po yung ibang mga "specialists" natin .. nagpapa advertise na sila (sa local daily namin) na kaya na nilang iadjust mga digital odometers ng kahit anung sasakyan kahit pa 2000 up...ano pa purpose ng pag aadjust ng odo (can't think of any other reason) kundi manloko, di po ba? Good thing may law of karma...

[kimpOy]

check the car for its wear and tear...saka minsan presence of mind..dati may kotse akong tinignan 40K pa lang tinakbo...pero kasama sa sales pitch na niya na bago daw ang timing belt

potek...

[OTEP]

Never ever believe an odometer. Even if the vehicle is for sale by the owner. Minsan hindi din nila sinasadyang maging inaccurate iyan. E.g. by changing tire sizes or having the speed sensor fail and not replacing it immediately.

[MAXBUWAYA]

kaya wag maniniwala sa sales pitch ng mga agent na

"Mayaman yung may ari, madaming koste, lima yata"


Utot nila!!!

[niky]

Never ever believe an odometer. Even if the vehicle is for sale by the owner. Minsan hindi din nila sinasadyang maging inaccurate iyan. E.g. by changing tire sizes or having the speed sensor fail and not replacing it immediately.

Or easier... by disconnecting the speed sensor... very very easy to do with a wrench, a flash light and some spare time... had to do that once on a swapped car because the dashboard didn't agree with the ECU.

EDIT: Oh, don't worry about it if you're buying a car from me... with an average of 50,000 kms per year put on our vehicles as reflected on our odometers, you can be sure our odos haven't been tampered with...

[ale828]

kaya wag maniniwala sa sales pitch ng mga agent na

"Mayaman yung may ari, madaming koste, lima yata"


Utot nila!!!

Correct ka dyan.

Its still best if the car has full service records. We had bought a 2003 camry last year with 25Tkm, when we had the 30tkm check at CASA we found out that 40tkm was the last service check. They tampered the digital odometer.
Its hard to believe the odometer, usually just check the overall condition of the car including the conditions of the pedals, switches, etc.
Average consumption for cars range from 5tkm - 25tkm a year. some even higher. so sometimes its hard to base the mileage from how old the car is.

[OTEP]

Yung kakilala ko, inalis niya yung speedo sensor on his 2.0liter sedan way back in '98. Ewan ko lang kung sinasaksak niya from time to time. The last time I saw him, nasa kanya pa yung sasakyan.

[reniram]

Karamihan 'ata ng mga used car na binebenta sa mga auto exchange ay tampered na mga odo. Although mas maganda nga na hindi mo pansinin yung odo at yung condition na lang ng car ang tingnan mo, pero yung real reading ng odo still plays a big part sa pagbili ng used car.

May nabasa kasi ako b4 sa isang magazine about sa engine life ng car na kahit anong alaga daw ang gawin mo kapag umabot na sya ng 180t km, kailangan i-dispose or palitan mo na dahil sa tear and wear as well as metal components fatigue na tinatawag.

[OTEP]

kailangan i-dispose or palitan mo na dahil sa tear and wear as well as metal components fatigue na tinatawag

Syet, 270k's and counting na ko. Baka sumabog na ko anytime. hehehe.