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  1. Join Date
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    #21
    Try mo na lang sa iba. May iba kasi na maraming retoke ginagawa sa kotse para lang mabenta.

    Like:

    First, kaya lowered na, kasi may tinatagong problema yan sa suspension like worn out na coil spring, shocks etc. Pag cut ang spring, bad yon.

    Pag lowered na, mas maganda may chin or spoiler di ba? Pampaganda nga naman ng itsura.

    Low mileage, pero old model - pwedeng tampered na yan.

    Yung Engine Cooling fan, nakarekta na, kaya pala wala ng overheat. Dapat laging bukas ang aircon. (Na-experience to ng kamag-anak, too late nung malaman nya.

    Tint, tatanggalin para mag mukhang bago at marami pang iba.

    Well, ilan lang yan sa titingnan mo.


    Marami ka pa ring dapat i-check na hindi mo makikita agad on your first day of test drive. Mga leaks sa radiator, sa makina. Usually lalabas na yan pag madalas ng pinapatakbo.

    Try mo ring gawin yung advice nung iba dito. At least marami ka ng idea.

    Ingat na lang sa pagbili. Good luck!

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk
    hmmm...some rewinding perhaps?
    Check mo kung naparewind yung odo, but it's also possible na minsan lang gamitin yung car, I own a 96 Vtec with just 60k on the odo, coz it's very seldomly used.

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    #23
    how would you know if the odo has been rewinded? is there any way to know? kahit ikaw lang tumingin? or should it be brought sa casa pa?

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    #24
    ey sir.. ako pa sayo hanap ka nalang ng iba, yung may perfect casa record and yung hindi modded... yung stock lang kahit may konting sira as long as walang major i think its better than yung may kinalikot na sa suspension may sira pa ang odo..

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    #25
    Sa ibang cars actual milage can be extracted from the ECU or from the service records.

    One of our vehicles has a broken odo, we have to go to the dealer to check actual mileage.

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    #26
    Pre,

    Just a word of caution. It might be true that the seller had only driven the car at 40th (+) Km. In fairness, it might be true that there was no major problem with suspension or gas consumption. Maybe the speedometer got truly busted out of normal use.

    Maybe.

    What IS sure is that once you decide to buy it you'll part with your P300th pesos. That's a lot of money in my humble opinion! If you make a mistake, bye, bye, 300,000 Pesos!

    My suggestion is, do not ignore the cloud of doubt hanging in your mind. I once had the same budget and shopped for a second-hand car. It's so easy to get stuck to the first or second car in your list of choices, isn't it? (In the end I bought a brand new car for P330th-whose dealer got trashed here and everywhere because of disgusting practices, hehehe. Don't ask. )

    Be patient. Hold on to your money a bit longer. You will lose nothing by waiting a little longer, won't you?. Make sure that when you part with your P300th, there shall be no regrets. I have none.

    Shop around some more!

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel
    Pre,

    Just a word of caution. It might be true that the seller had only driven the car at 40th (+) Km. In fairness, it might be true that there was no major problem with suspension or gas consumption. Maybe the speedometer got truly busted out of normal use.

    Maybe.

    What IS sure is that once you decide to buy it you'll part with your P300th pesos. That's a lot of money in my humble opinion! If you make a mistake, bye, bye, 300,000 Pesos!

    My suggestion is, do not ignore the cloud of doubt hanging in your mind. I once had the same budget and shopped for a second-hand car. It's so easy to get stuck to the first or second car in your list of choices, isn't it? (In the end I bought a brand new car for P330th-whose dealer got trashed here and everywhere because of disgusting practices, hehehe. Don't ask. )

    Be patient. Hold on to your money a bit longer. You will lose nothing by waiting a little longer, won't you?. Make sure that when you part with your P300th, there shall be no regrets. I have none.

    Shop around some more!

    Korek ka dyan, CtrlAltDel .

    charmander,
    Wag kang magmadali. Marami ka pang makikitang mas maganda.
    Last edited by WeaponX; June 10th, 2005 at 04:47 PM.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by zechs
    how would you know if the odo has been rewinded? is there any way to know? kahit ikaw lang tumingin? or should it be brought sa casa pa?

    Makikita mo yung numbers sa Odo, di na sya pantay pantay. Yung last 2 normal lang na ganon (Kasi ginagamit e), pero pag-nagpalit na ng digit dapat papantay sa katabi.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel
    Pre,

    Just a word of caution. It might be true that the seller had only driven the car at 40th (+) Km. In fairness, it might be true that there was no major problem with suspension or gas consumption. Maybe the speedometer got truly busted out of normal use.

    Maybe.

    What IS sure is that once you decide to buy it you'll part with your P300th pesos. That's a lot of money in my humble opinion! If you make a mistake, bye, bye, 300,000 Pesos!

    My suggestion is, do not ignore the cloud of doubt hanging in your mind. I once had the same budget and shopped for a second-hand car. It's so easy to get stuck to the first or second car in your list of choices, isn't it? (In the end I bought a brand new car for P330th-whose dealer got trashed here and everywhere because of disgusting practices, hehehe. Don't ask. )

    Be patient. Hold on to your money a bit longer. You will lose nothing by waiting a little longer, won't you?. Make sure that when you part with your P300th, there shall be no regrets. I have none.

    Shop around some more!
    true! true! true!

    good advise!

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    #30
    CtrlAltDel - hehe thanks. i always see you posting at the picanto thread unfortunately i wasnt lucky enough to grab one at its original price.


    im going to look around for better deals so i could assess things better. i prefer to buy a car from someone i know or at least from a friend's friend kasi. is it advisable to look for a second hand car from the net? i mean will i still find good deals? para kasing most of the cars sold over the net are either sketchy or overpriced..

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    #31
    guys what do you expect in a 97 car? tsaka ang mahal niyan for a 300K. Wag kang mag expect na maganda pa ang ride niyan else you better buy a brand new car. Its a 97 dude tapos 44K lang ang mileage?unbelievable

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    #32
    weaponx,
    ganun lang ba madetermine kung natamper na yung odo? yung hindi pagkapantay-pantay ng numbers? i thought kasi parang may cable na may signs of tampering..like nung sa isang episode ng CSI...hehehe

    yeah shop around..i know a 2000 model na exalta 26Tkm palang..kaduda-duda? maybe. thats why you have to check thoroughly.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by charmander
    im going to look around for better deals so i could assess things better. i prefer to buy a car from someone i know or at least from a friend's friend kasi. is it advisable to look for a second hand car from the net? i mean will i still find good deals? para kasing most of the cars sold over the net are either sketchy or overpriced..

    try browsing tsikot's car finder

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by zechs
    weaponx,
    ganun lang ba madetermine kung natamper na yung odo? yung hindi pagkapantay-pantay ng numbers? i thought kasi parang may cable na may signs of tampering..like nung sa isang episode ng CSI...hehehe
    Mas obvious kasi yon pero may iba pa sigurong paraan. Nag-tip sa akin nyan yung friend ko na dating buy and sell ang sideline. Nacheck ko nga na totoo from personal experience.

    Barena daw ginagamit, pero wala ka raw makikitang traces na binarena. Secret daw kung paano.

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    #35
    Charmander,

    Try inquiring also from banks which sell/auction repossessed cars like BPI, Union Bank, etc. I think dito rin kumukuha yung ilan sa mga buy and sell people.

    Sa Buy and Sell Classifieds marami din dun na first/real owners nagbebenta. Makakatawad ka pa.
    Last edited by WeaponX; June 10th, 2005 at 06:58 PM.

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    #36
    www.buyandsellph.com

    tapos search ka.

    ang disadvantage lang ng Buy&Sell Online, 2 weeks behind the printed version sila. Kaya usually, naunahan ka na :P This is what happened to me. Pero at least, pwede mong i-cut-and-paste sa Excel yung mga presyo, for comparison purposes.

    makikita mo naman yung pattern sa Buy&Sell eh. kung masyadong malayo yung presyo (too high or too low) medyo suspect yun...

    kung 1997 car siya, i would expect nasa 80T km na dapat ang odometer niyan, at least. kahit mababa nga, di mo naman alam kung rewound yung odo.

    at that kind of mileage (80T km) dami mo na dapat palitan ---- lahat ng suspension bits, timing belt (unless timing chain ang gamit...) water pump, mga kung ano-anong gasket, mga filter, etc. Siguro dapat mga 50k ang budget mo for fixes. bumili ka nalang kaya ng 1997 na mazda 323, daming nagkalat, 200k lang to 220k. tapos marami ka pang sobrang pambayad sa fixes. or maybe a '99 or 2000 na sentra? at least mas bago yun...

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