Flopped vehicles in the Philippines

[tidus1203]

The Toyota Yaris can be considered a flop. The Toyota Camry sold more considering the Yaris is the cheapest in the Toyota line-up.

Yeah its a semi-flop too in my books even though I own one... Its cheap, but its not selling well...

[tidus1203]

i would consider a car flop pag talo siya sa competitor niya

example:

talo ang Yaris sa Jazz

talo RAV4 sa CRV

Suzuki SX4 talo sa... lahat ng ka-class niya

That's a harsh way to judge a flop vehicle uls... So basta hindi #1 sa category nya flop na agad? I wouldn't say the Honda City is a flop even though the Vios is beating it in sales nor is the Honda Accord a flop even though the Camry beats it...

For me flop is talagang bombtastic failure of epic proportions! Yeah like the Suzuki SX4 or the Kia Soul...

[uls]

That's a harsh way to judge a flop vehicle uls... So basta hindi #1 sa category nya flop na agad? I wouldn't say the Honda City is a flop even though the Vios is beating it in sales nor is the Honda Accord a flop even though the Camry beats it...

For me flop is talagang bombtastic failure of epic proportions! Yeah like the Suzuki SX4 or the Kia Soul...

hehe

di naman flop kung number 2 or 3

pero if the dealer has to mark down the price to get the cars moving, flop yun

like yung Galant 240M

[Altis6453]

PGA Cars (Audi, Porsche) is doing quite well in the luxury market

so are BMWs

yup flop yung Murano

I agree that Audi and Porsche are doing well. However, how many Ferraris and Maseratis do you see on the road now? Its ultra-high end but it didn't fare very well here when they opened a local dealership.

[locoroco777]

Err...how about FERRARI and MASERATI?

I believe their dealership in Ortigas folded up in less than a year after it opened. Simply too expensive at the "entry level" price of about Php 14Million ++

both brands have been acquired by the soong group....same company that sells land rovers and jaguars

based from what I read, unlike before for ferrari at least, they used to acquire it from an asian distribution hub in singapore but without the knowledge of the mother company of the Scuderia, the singaporeans is pricing the prancing horses ridiculously, so imagine that an ultimately expensive car being priced ridiculously high is equals to shutdown in some markets just like what happen here few years back....But I'm not sure if they own that dealership in adb ave. ortigas....anyone can confirm?

but unlike today, they're getting the units directly from italy which I expect would be priced fairly...so expect to turn your heads like an owl whenever your rolling in the streets of makati and the fort this coming years....

[gaspanic]

Honda Pilot?

[tidus1203]

hehe

di naman flop kung number 2 or 3

pero if the dealer has to mark down the price to get the cars moving, flop yun

like yung Galant 240M

So by your definition even the Lancer EX is a flop cause it has some very high discounts, presumably to move inventory...

[lowslowbenz]

RE: Maserati and Ferrari

Willy Soong has a lot of top level connections (read: owners of the company)

He sells Ferreti Yachts too.

[uls]

So by your definition even the Lancer EX is a flop cause it has some very high discounts, presumably to move inventory...

diba it took quite some time for the market to absorb the EX lancers?

na-introduce sa local market ang lancer EX how many years ago?

even now, there are still not that many EX lancers on the road compared to civics and corollas

[uls]

there are grey market importers of Ferraris

the dealer isnt the only place you can buy a Ferrari

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there is a high end market here

don't underestimate the wealth of locals

now that it's becoming accepted to flaunt wealth, expect the the high end market to grow

[tidus1203]

The Cedia Lancer is also a flop (when it was the main Lancer and not being used as a sub compact fighter)... Definitely the 1st ZZ Altis and Civic ES beat the hell out of it...

[uls]

The Cedia Lancer is also a flop (when it was the main Lancer and not being used as a sub compact fighter)... Definitely the 1st ZZ Altis and Civic ES beat the hell out of it...

yes nag flop talaga mga lancers after pizza

pangit ng itsura

[lazyfoot]

sad to say the Hyundai I30 it was a good car but the taxes made it so expensive for its market

[desert fox]

That might be true for the SOUL 2.0L but it seems the lower priced Kia Soul 1.6L might make it a better seller. With 121hp from it's 1.6L engine, its definitely not under-powered as I earlier suspected.

Pareho lang ng makina ng ng Forte ko broGH, 1.6L... its CVVT tech at talagang malakas ang hatak....

Timing chain pa....

pero tumba talaga sa atin ang KIA sa presyuhan.

[ghosthunter]

Pareho lang ng makina ng ng Forte ko broGH, 1.6L... its CVVT tech at talagang malakas ang hatak....

Timing chain pa....

pero tumba talaga sa atin ang KIA sa presyuhan.

But the SOUL 1.6L is now selling at 800k++ price range. Kia reps said they got the 2.0L and than 1.6L wasn't available then yet. Sayang lang, if they launched (a year ago) with both the 1.6L and 2.0L or simply with the 1.6L model (without the expensive 2.0L model), it might have gotten a better reception with the buyers.

[tidus1203]

Still even at just P800K no one seems to be enticed by the Kia Soul... Have never seen one in the roads for such a long time... Could also be the styling that turned a lot of people off?

[tidus1203]

Can the Mazda Miata or MX-5 as locally known be considered a flop??

Certainly most people who probably get a Genesis Coupe over it... I hardly see one at all...

[desert fox]

But the SOUL 1.6L is now selling at 800k++ price range. Kia reps said they got the 2.0L and than 1.6L wasn't available then yet. Sayang lang, if they launched (a year ago) with both the 1.6L and 2.0L or simply with the 1.6L model (without the expensive 2.0L model), it might have gotten a better reception with the buyers.

oo nga, kung yung 1.6L ang unang inoffer nila baka sakali pa bumenta...

target nyan mga young generation,funky ang style....

[ghosthunter]

Still even at just P800K no one seems to be enticed by the Kia Soul... Have never seen one in the roads for such a long time... Could also be the styling that turned a lot of people off?

I have seen a few already, all were the 1.6L variant.

Typical buyers of this wouldn't be too attached to brands like Toyota or Honda.

[ghosthunter]

oo nga, kung yung 1.6L ang unang inoffer nila baka sakali pa bumenta...

target nyan mga young generation,funky ang style....

If I was offered this car when I was younger (ie: college), I would love it.