Cars you can't count on

**Renelmac** · March 7th, 2005 02:20 PM

astig!!!..mas reliable pa pala mag KIA kesa sa mag benz..hmmmm....

**niky** · March 7th, 2005 02:37 PM

Actually, the Golf, new Beetle, Mercs and BMWs all suffer from various electrical problems. But this is all relative. BMW has released a lot of new platforms lately, and there are always a lot of bugs to be ironed out in new products. Mercedes had LOTS of problems with the last E-Class, and they're still recovering from the fallout. AFAIK, people have ALWAYS complained about Bugs

in the Golf.

The RX-8 is the only sour note (so far) in Mazda's "revolution". But the only problems I've heard about are related to fuel consumption...

**ILuvDetailing** · March 7th, 2005 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Renelmac

astig!!!..mas reliable pa pala mag KIA kesa sa mag benz..hmmmm....

I wouldn't go that far...

**niky** · March 7th, 2005 02:52 PM

The advantage of Kia is, WHEN it does break down, the parts are dirt cheap...

**gel_salazar07** · March 7th, 2005 03:08 PM

Labo ng survey na yun! Magko-commute na lang ako. benta ko na benz ko!

**woodfire** · March 7th, 2005 03:32 PM

for the new generation of bimmers, the "achilles heel" is its iDrive computer box. they claim, however, that they already de-bugged the system for the new generation 3er's, 7er's and the 6er's. overall though, these bimmers are still very reliable.

from my personal experience in owning an E36 3er, I am quite dissappointed by its relative unreliability in the medium to long term.

Honda and Toyota, however, have made it a corporate mantra to be the most reliable car brand in the world. The "MIND SET" in their corporate culture really espouses reliability and dependability which are thus manifested in their products.

**wac3** · March 7th, 2005 09:15 PM

german cars kasi puro hi-tech electronics ang kotse kaya bugs ang problema whereas sa mga japanese cars, simple but sure ang mga cars nila.

just my .02

**mazdamazda** · March 7th, 2005 09:55 PM

can we quantify it further... less reliable in terms of WHAT?

engine? electricals? body? suspension?

**revoGSX** · March 7th, 2005 10:08 PM

yung biyenan ng officemate ko meron bmw sedan 5 series.. twice na daw tumirik sa daan due to computer failure.. windows daw pala OS.. kahit daw ipa-reboot ng bmw ayaw pa din.. ayun ni-tow..