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    #31
    Daewoo is dead in the US... there haven't been any new Daewoos for years.

    Kia and Hyundai cars don't rate well with CR, but their SUVs are doing okay.

    Want to know something funny? The Mazda Proteges (323, Ford Lynx, MY car) rates very highly in the US CR publications... they're rated as almost as reliable as the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla, and more reliable than Mitsubishi Lancer and Nissan Sentra (Corolla-Civic-Protege-Sentra-Lancer, in that order), while here, they get the bum rap for quality... weird, huh?

    And BTW, CR rates almost all American made models as crap compared to Japanese and European cars.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    Daewoo is dead in the US... there haven't been any new Daewoos for years.

    Kia and Hyundai cars don't rate well with CR, but their SUVs are doing okay.
    actually, the Hyundai Sonata was 2004's most reliable car, beating even stalwarts Toyota Camry and Honda Accord.Way to go hyundai!!

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by sikuya
    actually, the Hyundai Sonata was 2004's most reliable car, beating even stalwarts Toyota Camry and Honda Accord.Way to go hyundai!!
    while the Tiburon is included in the least reliable list...

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    #34
    Consumer Reports Reliability Findings, published April 2005

    (numbers in parenthesis denotes number of problems per 100 vehicles, e.g. Honda Odyssey (11) =11 problems out of 100 Honda Odysseys)

    2004 Model Year
    Best Car-Hyundai Sonata (2)
    Worst Car-Mercedes-Benz E-Class (35)

    2003 Model Year
    Best Car-Lexus IS300,Honda S2000 (9)
    Worst Car-BMW 7-series (89)

    2002 Model Year
    Best Car-Toyota Echo (10)
    Worst Car-Jaguar X-Type (126)

    2001 Model Year
    Best Car-Toyota Echo (16)
    Worst Car-Mercedes-Benz C-Class (V6) [139]

    2000 Model Year
    Best Car-Lexus LS400 (18)
    Worst Car-Volkswagen Golf/Jetta (V6) [158]

    **

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    #35
    Palagay ko medyo slanted ang survey results.

    Mas malaki ang expectations ng consumer from a high-priced car kay sa low-priced car.

    Something wrong with the low priced car: Not that big of a deal.

    Something wrong with the high-priced car: Malaking bagay and a letdown.

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by david12345
    Palagay ko medyo slanted ang survey results.

    Mas malaki ang expectations ng consumer from a high-priced car kay sa low-priced car.

    Something wrong with the low priced car: Not that big of a deal.

    Something wrong with the high-priced car: Malaking bagay and a letdown.
    actually the magazine stated that they just tabulated problems which are serious enough as determined by cost,downtime,compromised to safety and system failure-- so the usual cupholder is broken or the dash plastics are too hard or the turn signal is busted--i'm sure did not count.

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    Daewoo is dead in the US... there haven't been any new Daewoos for years.
    Yung brand lang ang patay pero yung kotse buhay pa! Yung Suzuki Forenza is 100% Daewoo. Iba lang ng badge.

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    #38
    Ang masabi ko lang is that the consumers are the ones who get benefited for what the CONSUMER REPORTS is doing since this group is a real consumer advocate. If not because of these testing groups, like Insurance Institute of Highway safety and Consumer reports, we wouldn't get quality cars these days.

    I know mahirap tanggapin sometimes na your car is being judged by a group contrary to your observation. But in the end, it is on your own assessment whether you got a safe car for a good price...As long as you are confident and armed with your own bases on judging a good car, YOU CAN ALWAYS DISAGREE with them. Its as simple as that!

    What these groups are doing is giving you what is called:"INFORMED DECISION" on what to buy and what to watch out for. But its really up to you to decide whether it be acceptable or not, OTHERWISE called CONSUMER EMPOWERMENT...
    Last edited by cyberdoc95; March 9th, 2005 at 09:09 AM.

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