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    BMW 3series
    CHEVROLET Corvette
    CHRYSLER 300
    HONDA Accord
    HONDA Fit
    INFINITI G35
    MAZDA MX-5
    MAZDASPEED 3
    PORSCHE Boxster & Cayman
    VOLKSWAGEN GTI

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    Isn't C&D biased towards BMW? Halos lahat yata ng top ten nila may BMW.

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    yes BS lahat ang sinasabi ng Car and Driver.IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeige View Post
    Isn't C&D biased towards BMW? Halos lahat yata ng top ten nila may BMW.
    That's because BMW is churning out great cars year after year after year. Heck, they are poised to overtake MB as the largest luxury carmaker in a year or two.

    Quote Originally Posted by m_ron
    yes BS lahat ang sinasabi ng Car and Driver.IMO.
    Care to explain why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda View Post
    That's because BMW is churning out great cars year after year after year. Heck, they are poised to overtake MB as the largest luxury carmaker in a year or two.



    Care to explain why?

    Advertisement lang po yan.para mapaniwa nila ang mga tao na walang alam sa auto or walang time para mag test drive or research sa car,hence meron na silang idea dahil nasa top 10 daw .Ten best cars?bat walang aston martin,Enzo,Lambo?kasi hindi naman ma afford ng regular people.

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    Because those supercars are:

    1) Not that good overall. They are a pain to drive even by pros, quality usually stinks and they're hardly livable.

    2) If "walang alam sa oto" ang target market, do you really, really think Motor Trend/C&D/Automobile readers are soccer moms and dorks who just drives cars from A-to-B? Their main market IS CAR ENTHUSIASTS... I think the title of the cover pretty much sums that up???

    3) If "affordability" is the main reason why these cars are chosen, then top 10 will always be Asian cars or SEAT... Heck, if that's the main criteria, let's grant the Norkis Legacy COTY...

    Your argument is severely flawed hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed View Post
    Because those supercars are:

    1) Not that good overall. They are a pain to drive even by pros, quality usually stinks and they're hardly livable.

    2) If "walang alam sa oto" ang target market, do you really, really think Motor Trend/C&D/Automobile readers are soccer moms and dorks who just drives cars from A-to-B? Their main market IS CAR ENTHUSIASTS... I think the title of the cover pretty much sums that up???

    3) If "affordability" is the main reason why these cars are chosen, then top 10 will always be Asian cars or SEAT... Heck, if that's the main criteria, let's grant the Norkis Legacy COTY...

    Your argument is severely flawed hehe.
    If that is your opinion i will respect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    1) Not that good overall. They are a pain to drive even by pros, quality usually stinks and they're hardly livable.
    Ah, kaya pala may ibang car collectors na nakatambak lang sa garahe ang supercars nila at pang-display lang..

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    parang iba-iba category cars nyan ah

    they put honda fit in same class with 3 series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cablespy View Post
    parang iba-iba category cars nyan ah

    they put honda fit in same class with 3 series?
    Ummm... isn't that the point?

    Have different car categories to come up with the said list.

    Anyway, C&D 10Best have been like that for ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeige View Post
    Isn't C&D biased towards BMW? Halos lahat yata ng top ten nila may BMW.
    why not? BMWs are great cars.
    just like HONDAs, 21years na yata sa 10Best ang Accord.

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    10Best irregardless of category. Mahaba ang reasoning diyan (but sounds logical). They do include an explanation with every 10Best issue.

    Meron akong copy ng 1986 10Best. Kelan ba ang unang 10Best? 1985?

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    ngayon lang yata walang ford sa 10 Best Cars.

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    Car and Driver's "BMW bias" has been a long-standing criticism of the magazine.

    But what is the bias? When a BMW model gets old, and Audi or Mercedes releases a newer, better car, sometimes, the BMW loses.

    While Car and Driver's math and calculations for group tests is often arbitrary and faulty (sometimes, they don't agree with their own math, but publish the winner according to it, anyway), their summations and observations regarding the cars is always fairly accurate.

    And, yes, why not BMWs? If you send a testing crew a car that handles well, drives spiritedly and feels good to drive, of course they'll love it. If the testers never have to sit in the cramped back-seat (3-series) or deal with paying for long-term maintenance issues inherent with modern European cars, of course they'll love it.

    C&D's Mini long-term report summed it best. Minis, being BMW-made, suffered from tons of niggling faults... but all the owners still loved it, because, basically, it's a front-wheel drive BMW, and it drives like one.

    Basically, their top ten is varied, but each of their cars exemplifies certain qualities that make them a choice for the enthusiast or buyer...

    Corvette - still crappy interior... quality issues, but it's fast and very capable
    Chrysler 300C - so-so handling... but it channels the spirit of the good old bad days of muscle cars...
    Accord - boring for some, but a fast, capable and comfortable cruiser
    Fit - small, tinny, but fun...

    Etcetera...

    The BMW 3-series? The only complaint you can really lodge against it is that the rear seat still isn't very big, but otherwise, it's one of the best premium compact sedans out there.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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