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    It may be an OT in another thread... so I started this one to make the inputs more focused. I am not also sure if this thread already exists; mod can close this if it is so.

    Aside from security concerns for our rides, of course, the prime importance is the security of our own person -- our life and that of our loved ones. A bullet-proof tint for our rides is not a bad idea (if the price is right) since criminals, 99% of the time, carry arms to perpetrate their evil schemes, particularly in our case, to either steal our vehicles or do harm to us.

    A poster in the other thread said that it will be introduced here through a Canadian company. Or, is it already available here?

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    Oops, "car electronics" pala ito. Can the mod transfer this thread to its proper location? Sorry for the mistake. I overlooked that the "security" should be electronic in nature.

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    its been here a long time ago. but I dont know if this new product can really stop a bullet. the old one cant really stop a bullet but reduce its speed to make it less lethal. it called safety film yata. it has levels also other can protect you from stones to baseball bat. commonly used in buildings but can be used on cars also. we had a demo before windshield ng l300, with bat, the glass shattered but stayed in place. but a friend tested a gun with it, the bullet just passed thru it.

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    no such thing as bullet proof tint. for glass to become bullet proof it will have to be made of a laminate of several layers of glass and polycarbonate (google search Lexan, Tuffak or Cyrolon). the type of bullet that can be stopped will depend on the number of layers and the thickness. maybe 1 layer (as that "bullet proof tint and glass) will stop a stone from a sling shot travelling at 150 ft/sec, but not a bullet with a muzzle velocity of 750 ft/sec. 9mm, the favorite of todays gunslingers, has muzzle velocities upwards of 1000 ft/sec.

    plexiglass was once bragged as being bullet proof, and i have seen one establishment in the philippines where the glass partition of the cashier's booth is made from 3/4" plexiglass. but that is more of a deterent to unknowing robbers than for bullet proof protection. there was in fact a recent episode of myth busters where they shot a caliber .22 lr, .44 magnum and a rifle through 1/2 inch plexiglass box (so total 1 inch thick since bullet will need to pass through 2 panes). .22 lr bullet went through 1 pane, .44 magnum and the rifle round went through both panes.

    but there is bullet proof plexiglass, isa na nga yung Lexan. but it has to be thick, like 1 inch or more.

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    IMHO, a tint film cannot stop a bullet. What bulletresistant glass is made of is layers of plastic and glass sheets sandwiched together to absorb the energy of the bullet as it shatters layer upon layer.

    A tint film will just keep the glass shards together, much like laminated safety glass already does for your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo
    but there is bullet proof plexiglass, isa na nga yung Lexan. but it has to be thick, like 1 inch or more.

    yup, there is one episode in Mythbusters where they tested their Lexan blast shields as well as bulletproof glass/plastic sheets against a small collection of guns. Their blastshield lexan sheets (which was less than 1/2 inch thick) didn't even deflect the bullet.

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    Hotwire (a local show) showcased this bullet-resistant window treated with a film / tint...

    they even pulled a practical joke on the driver of the patrol by firing a handgun into the window... the bullet did not penetrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    Hotwire (a local show) showcased this bullet-resistant window treated with a film / tint...

    they even pulled a practical joke on the driver of the patrol by firing a handgun into the window... the bullet did not penetrate.

    and did they say how much would the bullet-resistant tint would cost?

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    I wonder if it can stop another car or motorcycle..or even a motorcyclist from penetrating ur window.

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    crime usually occurs before the victim enters the car. So, a bullet proof tint isnt fool-proof for the criminals. If you insist, you might as well have an armor-plate doors and shell while you're at it.

    An armored-truck like Metrobank has isnt a bad idea afterall :evillaugh

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    Hmmm... so, a bulletproof tint does not really exist? The introduction of that Canadian company is worth to see, anyway. Yung sa gun show, bulletproof/resistant car window. Kaya lang, ang kapal ng window. GH and Yebo are right, the windows should be very thick to repel the bullet. The distributor even suggests for an engine change to at least a V6 to power the vehicle because of the enormous weight added.

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    mahal yan.. officials lng yata nka bullet proof.

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    lets say you have a bulletproof tint and no armor in the cars body, wala ding kwenta bullet will still penetrate. I have to agree with Yebo that there is no such thing as a bulletproof tint, the purpose of armoring a car is to buy some time to be able to escape.

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    just a question.. have you been shot at before?
    nah,seriously... wouldn't it be a whole lot better if you surround yourself
    with bodyguards because IMO, I don't think criminals will pop a moving
    target unless you are at a redlight. and yeah i think it'll cost a crapload
    of money to bulletproof your windows....prolly it's like buying another car?
    cheaper alternative siguro is a bulletproof vest?
    Last edited by tinky; November 28th, 2005 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    lets say you have a bulletproof tint and no armor in the cars body, wala ding kwenta bullet will still penetrate. I have to agree with Yebo that there is no such thing as a bulletproof tint, the purpose of armoring a car is to buy some time to be able to escape.
    Although it might sound a waste of money to bulletproof your window while not modifying your car door, most of the time, a criminal will initially try to shoot you through the glass windows before even thinking of shooting through the metal door.

    So a bulletproof window with non-modified door can save you from the first few shots but thats about it. You should have the frame of mind to quickly get out of the "kill-zone".

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    Yes, GH is right! In an ambush just like what motorcycle-riders-hitmen do, they aim at your head, for instant kill. In a car-jacking situation, they point the gun straight at your face, para sindakin ka. With a bulletproof tint/glass, fear is greatly reduced... and you can buy time to escape and/or at the same time, get your firearm as your final/secondary option. "Frame/presence of mind" is the key, as what GH said.

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    parang useless yung bullet proof tint na yun. eh yung body naman di naman bulletproff kaya ganun din db? pag binaril ka sa window, di nga lulusot pero pag binaril ka sa pinto,wala din...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero
    parang useless yung bullet proof tint na yun. eh yung body naman di naman bulletproff kaya ganun din db? pag binaril ka sa window, di nga lulusot pero pag binaril ka sa pinto,wala din...
    I think has been answered by previous posts... but let me restate some.

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHunter
    Although it might sound a waste of money to bulletproof your window while not modifying your car door, most of the time, a criminal will initially try to shoot you through the glass windows before even thinking of shooting through the metal door.

    So a bulletproof window with non-modified door can save you from the first few shots but thats about it. You should have the frame of mind to quickly get out of the "kill-zone".

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    BULLET PROOF is a very misleading term. Even ballistics glass used on up-armored vehicles and money transport is only BULLET RESISTANT to a certain degree. But what it does is buy TIME for those in the hot zone to evade and escape the attackers.

    I'm not going to bet my life on thin film.

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    For carjackings protetion.. Just tint ur windows dark. Psychologically, they wouldn't aim a gun a a black tinted window...they dont know what they're pointing at.. or can't see the reaction of the driver..n cant see if he's pulling out a gun aswell. With a window without tint..easily the gunman can see the victim clearly n can make sure he doesnt try anything funny.

    But i guess kung super concerned ka..ehh i guess it's alright for you. if that makes u feel safer driving around past midnight in back alleys of metro manila.

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