Right of Way / Defensive Driving

**BoyL3** · November 13th, 2003 12:55 PM

ganito ang nangyari, nasa leftside ako ng 2way lane, ngayon magle right turn ako siyempre signal light ng right turn kasi magbaba ng passenger, eh may nakamotor sa likod ko, unang unang ako sa kanya, ba galit sakin di ko daw pinagbiyan makalusot samantalang pasok na ang ulo ng ride ko sa lane tsaka dahan dahan naman ako lumipat ng lane, sino ba ang tama sa min mga tsikoteers?

**Ungas** · November 13th, 2003 01:03 PM

Kung motorsiklo lang naman, panunahin mo na. Sayang ang galit at init ng ulo para pagtalunan kung sino ang dapat mauna. Manipis lang naman yun, kahit na half lane kaya lumusot nun.

At kung ikaw ang lilipat sa linya nya, tyempuhan mo na may kusang loob na papalusutin ka. Mahirap sumingit ng linya kung ginigitgit ka ng sasakyan sa lilipatan mo.

**DSM619** · November 13th, 2003 05:18 PM

If ako ikaw , by defensive driving ay ALWAYS GIVE WAY AKO , no matter what unless DUCATI o HAYABUSA bike niya , ayos lang .

**yebo** · November 13th, 2003 05:29 PM

the one on the lane always has the right of way. so if you are changing lanes and there is a vehicle on that lane, even if that vehicle is behind for as long as the distance is below the safe distance, then that vehicle has right of way. the distance of the vehicles must be according to accepted safe distances, which is 1 vehicle length/10mph (or 16kph) of speed. so if you are both travelling at 60 kph, you can safely change lanes when the distance between your vehicles is 4 vehicle lengths.

**yebo** · November 13th, 2003 05:31 PM

pero op kors, pag ako yung driver na mag-change lanes, hail mary pass palagi hehehehe! kasya? yup! vroooom!

**jaise** · November 13th, 2003 06:48 PM

right of way yun asa lane nga.

hmm.. seems to me like the passenger suddenly said "sa tabi na lang ako.." coz if it werent like that, then you should be on the rightmost lane already by the time you're passenger asked you to drop him/her. :D

**Karding** · November 14th, 2003 02:10 AM

In the US, Right of Way has its exception. And that exception is for motorcycles. Kahit super tama ka pa, kung mabangga mo motorsiklo, siguradong makukulong ka. At kung mapatay mo sya kahit na ikaw ang nasa right of way, Involuntary manslaughter ka and you will serve time in jail.

Di ko lang alam kung may ganitong law sa Pinas. My advice, give them the right of way, always.

**coiter** · November 14th, 2003 03:24 PM

aside from sinabi nila, hihinto ka rin naman pala, so sana pinadaan mo na muna sya kasi maabala mo lang sya once you stop. pahihirapan mo rin syang lumipat sa ibang lane para ma-overtake ka. baliktarin mo na lang ang sitwasyon. lets say ur on the right lane at may dyip na gustong pumasok sa lane mo kasi magbababa ng pasahero. hindi ba nakakainis yung di ka pinalusot at inabala ka pa kesa sana pinalusot ka na lang at wala pa sanang naabala? aside from road rules or right of way, let's practice road courtesy na rin.

**nap123** · November 14th, 2003 03:33 PM

yup im secon demotion, kailangang defensive ka mahirap na mabunggo at makabunggo.

**Karding** · November 15th, 2003 03:13 AM

Originally posted by coiter
let's practice road courtesy na rin.

very well said coiter!

As always, put yourself into their shoes. Yan ang lagi kong ginagawa at ini-isip, kung ako ang nakasakay sa motor, "sana naman pagbigyan ako ng malalaking auto sa kalsada."
and kung pwedeng kumaway ako to acknowledge and thank them for their courtesy, I do!

I hope some of you (who hardly read PitStop Forum) can help us with the upcoming effort to educate Public and Private drivers on the road about safety and road hazards, how to prevents accidents and defensive driving.

[SIZE=3]Courtesy is Contageous![/SIZE]

**BoyL3** · November 15th, 2003 10:08 AM

Thanks for the information. How about kapag paliko ka na right turn nakasignal light ka nang pa right tapos itong nakamotor umoovertake sa kanan? tama ba yon?

**yebo** · November 15th, 2003 12:29 PM

if you are in the rightmost lane and signaling to turn right, then you have the right of way. like what i said earlier, the vehicle that is in the lane always has right of way. since you are already in that lane and ahead, then you have right of way.

same goes for turning left, if you are in the leftmost lane and signaling left, then you have right of way.

exception is trucks and trailers, these vehicles are long and may need more space for turning. besides, you surely do not want to contest right of way with an 18-wheeler!

yun nga palang sabi ko earlier na safe distance between vehicles, that means the length of the vehicle that needs to brake/stop in case of collision avoidance. so let's say the vehicle behind is a car and both of you are travelling at 60kph, then it's 4 car lengths distance. if the vehicle is an 18-wheeler trailer truck that you are overtaking, then it's 4x18-wheeler truck lengths distance.

**Karding** · November 16th, 2003 08:49 AM

Originally posted by BoyL3
Thanks for the information. How about kapag paliko ka na right turn nakasignal light ka nang pa right tapos itong nakamotor umoovertake sa kanan? tama ba yon?

1. mali yung naka motor dahil 'kung' nakita ka nyang naka signal paliko, dapat hindi na sya pumasok.

2. mali ka kung lumiko ka nang hindi tumitingin at sinigurado na wala ngang sasakyan (kahit motor lang) sa right side mo.

this all boils down to DEFENSIVE DRIVING, again.

minsan, wag na nating pa iralin ang pride hanggang sa daan. Eh ano naman kung nag overtake sya ng wala sa ayos? Is that guy really worth fighting with? Manalo matalo ka sa fist fight ninyong dalawa, who do you think have things to loose? him, or you? as much as possible I try not to get into a fight with any one on the road. I keep thinking na yung mga gago sa kalsada has nothing to loose kaya ganun ang attitude nila. On the other hand, I do have something to lose, kaya pinagbibigyan ko na lang sila.

Kung nagiinit na talaga ang ulo mo sa daan, do this:

Count from one to whatever. I bet you, by the time you reach number 500 malamig na ulo mo. :hihihi:

BoyL3, dont get me wrong kapatid. I know you had the right of way, I know you are right. But you will be wrong kung papatulan mo pa ang mga low-life sa kalsada na walang disiplina. I know, ako mismo sinasabi ko sa sarili ko"kung may power lang ako na mapatay ang mga walang disiplina sa mundo, for sure na kokonti na lang ang driver sa mundo."

Be safe... :angel3:

**BoyL3** · November 17th, 2003 10:58 AM

ty sa inyo lahat at sa yo karding, naliwanagan ako, mabuhay ang mga taga tsikot, mabuhay tayong lahat!

**mikey177** · November 17th, 2003 11:29 AM

Paano naman yung mga motorcylce drivers na nakikigamit ng pedestrian sidewalk kapag super-traffic sa kalsada? Pwede na ba tadyakan ang mga ito kapag naglalakad ka at may nakasalubong kang ganito? :mad:

**yebo** · November 17th, 2003 12:24 PM

pwede mo barilin in self defense. a motor vehicle, no mater how small, is a weapon. so if it goes to the sidewalk and you are "threatened" by it, then shoot the b*#$%d.

but then, you should get a very good lawyer after.

**coiter** · November 17th, 2003 01:23 PM

Paano naman yung mga motorcylce drivers na nakikigamit ng pedestrian sidewalk kapag super-traffic sa kalsada? Pwede na ba tadyakan ang mga ito kapag naglalakad ka at may nakasalubong kang ganito?

hehe. tantyahin mo na lang. tignan mo kung mukhang messenger o delivery boy. kung ganun, e wag mong paraanin. o kaya pagsabihan mo (ng maayos kung maaari). pero kung mukhang maton, holdaper, bodyguard o pulis na kups, e paadanin mo na (tapos murahin mo pag medyo malayo na at may matatakbuhan ka hehe). mahirap na at baka mabaril ka ng di oras. karamihan pa naman ng mga holdaper at assasin e nakamotor at nagmamadali.

Nangyari na sa akin nung dating naglalakad ako sa sidewalk tapos may nakasalubong akong nakamotor. di ako tumabi kaya napilitan syang isiksik sa kanan ko na malapit sa gutter. e napilitan syang huminto kasi may tao rin sa likod ko. syempre di sya makatukod sa kanan kasi nga andun mga tao. pero nung tumukod sya sa kaliwa, di nya namalayan na dulo na ng gutter kaya di nya maabot ang kalye. ayun, bagsak sya. syempre tawa at hirit ang inabot nya sa mga pedestrian. buti nga sa kanya. :D

**Karding** · November 18th, 2003 07:08 AM

Originally posted by mikey177
Paano naman yung mga motorcylce drivers na nakikigamit ng pedestrian sidewalk kapag super-traffic sa kalsada? Pwede na ba tadyakan ang mga ito kapag naglalakad ka at may nakasalubong kang ganito? :mad:

pwede mong tadyakan, kse nakita ko na ang kuya ko na ginawa nya ito eh. :hihihi: Pedestrians has the right of way, lalo na sa sidewalk. sabi nga ni kasamang coiter, tantyahin mo na lang kung maton or hindi, kung may baril o wala...hahaha.

**ownertype** · November 19th, 2003 11:11 AM

I had my share of experience sa motorcyles particularly tricycle drivers. One time, I was driving thru Boni. Serrano Ext then suddenly may kumabog ng passenger window ko. Etong trycicle driver galit na galit kasi daw ginigitgit ko. Sarap sana babain dahil ang lakas ng hampas niya dun sa window pero sempre yoko naman makipag boxing sa kaniya in front of my family kaya kinawayan ko na lang asking his pasensya.

Talagang hahabaan mo lang pisi mo sa pagmamaneho kundi either ikaw ang maging masama or mapasama. Safe driving mga prends!

**pajerokid** · November 21st, 2003 09:18 PM

i just want to add... flashing lights or turn signals does not give one the right of way.... ang dami kong nae-encounter na ganito ang pananaw sa buhay, lalo na yung members of the finer ***.

And yes, mas masarap ang feeling ng isang courteous driver than one who insists his right of way.

Umpisahan na natin sa ating sarili....

Kung hindi tayo, SINO?
Kung hindi dito, SAAN?
Kung hindi ngayon, KELAN?

NAKS!!! :evillaugh

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