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View Poll Results: Should airbags come as standard on all cars

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  • yes

    29 87.88%
  • no

    3 9.09%
  • it should only come with top of the line model

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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    Alam ko the 1st gen Grand Vitara 2.0 can be upgraded to give you a passenger airbag.

    Pero mas useful pa rin sa akin ang 3 pt. ELR seat belts.
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    #12
    Ang nagtataka lang ako, bakit pag 1 lang ang airbag na available, bakit sa driver siya nakatapat? Eh hindi ba mas delikado yung 'shotgun' position according to studies?Isa pa, if 3-point seatbelts are good but 4-point belts are better, bakit ang trend is toward airbags rather than 4-point belts?

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    #13
    Airbags should be mandatory in all vehicles, even the side curtain airbags should be installed in all cars. collision does't only happens in the front but also the sides of the vehicle.

    Furthermore, Pedestrian Airbags, is an airbag could be fitted externally between the bonnet and the windshield and would be released on impact were there a collision between a car and a pedestrian. The pedestrian airbags is designed to protect pedestrians could reduce head injuries by 90 percent and upper body injuries by half. Since over 80 percent of traffic fatalities occur when a head and a windshield collide. Pedestrian airbags to be compulsory in Europe by 2008.

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    #14
    The reason 4 or 5 point seatbelts (5 is the best) aren't mandatory is the hassle.

    A lot of people are just too lazy to wear their seatbelts... kahit lap-belt lang, nag-rereklamo, because it's hard to find the ends (usually).

    A three point belt is actually easier... reach across, pull, snap in place.... yet people still complain... ang hirap daw... some don't wear it because it's uncomfortable... or it wrinkles their clothes.

    A four point belt would be harder... you need both hands, and have to slot your arms through the straps (unless someone does a four point harness that can just snap down in front of you... which would actually make it easier to build a five point).

    Every time I'm strapped into a racer (or a street car with racing harnesses), it's quite a chore to fit into the non-springloaded harnesses)... maybe if it becomes standard fare, they'll make it nearly as easy as using two three-pointers, but I doubt it'll ever happen.

    An airbag, though... doesn't require participation from the buyer... you just buy it, and it works... or not. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't understand what the "SRS" means... it's supplementary... in other words, if you're not belted in and seated in the right position, even if the airbags go off, you can die. Period.

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    #15
    Side airbags dapat standard sa lahat ng passengers cars. Since cars are lower than SUVs pag tinamaan ka ng SUV sa side, ded bol ka talaga.

    Galing pala ng smart airbags ng CR-V. minemeasure niya yung weight ng passenger para ma-adjust yung impact force ng airbag.

    Kahit walang airbag, kung lahat naman ng kotse ngayon ay may 6-point roll cage, 5-point harness, HANS device at yung driver naka-helmet walang auto accident fatalities.

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by drey View Post
    Pero mas useful pa rin sa akin ang 3 pt. ELR seat belts.
    SRS Airbags do not replace the seatbelts, they are designed to work together with the seatbelts, thats why they are just Supplementary.
    At a high-speed crash, the seatbelts will slow down your movement, but the driver's head will still strike the steering wheel.

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    An airbag, though... doesn't require participation from the buyer... you just buy it, and it works... or not. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't understand what the "SRS" means... it's supplementary... in other words, if you're not belted in and seated in the right position, even if the airbags go off, you can die. Period.
    One other thing is that the 4 or 5 point harnesses are almost always fixed. So you cannot move around. And if you can, sobrang limited sila compared to the current 3 point belts.

    I think some cars even have the airbags switched off if the passengers do not buckle up.

    * Pup2: Standard lang to put driver airbag mostly because most of the time, vehicles are driven without any other passengers except the driver himself. The trend is towards 3 point belts for their ease of use as Niky pointed, and driver airbag as standard for its safety reasons as a supplementary restraint system (SRS), again as Niky said.

    * Javoy: I'd rather pay for safety rather than regret it when it's too late.

    Another cause of concern is side curtain airbags. This is a definite plus especially when being broadsided, especially large SUV's and trucks.

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    #18
    Airbags should come as a standard accessory and not just as an option. This is an added supplementary safety feature to the mandatory seatbelts and it has been proven to have saved a lot of lives and limbs.

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    #19
    dapat talaga kasama na yan kahit ano pang variant.diko nga din magets yan e (aside from the very basic na business yan).pero sa mga commercials nila after sila sa safety ng end users.hay naku, dapat magkaron ng law na lahat ng variant standard nayang airbag nayan.

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    #20
    It depends... what are people willing to pay?

    An airbag system adds, say, about 20-40,000 pesos to the price of the car.

    If you want to be sure that the occupants are fully protected in the case of all injuries, then you need front airbags, side curtain airbags, and possibly knee-level airbags.

    You've just added 100,000 pesos to the price of the base automobile.

    And for safety's sake, let's make sure that the seatbelts are perfect... let's put a Mercedes-style computer controlled pre-tensioner that zips you upright when it senses an impending impact... and power seats that also put you in the upright position.

    We've added another 40-60k worth of electronics and electric motors.

    And now we have to be sure the crash structure will protect you. Add another 100k for extra stiffness... due to the cost of materials and such... maybe a rollcage-level stiffening.

    At this point, your 600,000 pesos Vios or City now costs about 860,000... or your 800,000 peso Civic now costs 1 million (though the 2.0 at 1.1 already comes bundled with the side curtain airbags).

    Some people are willing to pay more for the safety. Some aren't. If you make everything absolutely mandatory, a lot of people won't be able to afford the cars.

    While personally, I believe in paying more for a safer car, every purchase is a calculated risk. It's up to the buyer to assess how much risk they want to take.

    Besides... airbags are useless if the cars themselves aren't safe. A Chery QQ with two airbags is nowhere near as safe as a Kia Picanto with none. What we should actually do is make it mandatory for all manufacturers to post their EuroNCAP or NHTSA scores on the windows of their cars, so customers know where their money is going... and force them to offer airbags and ABS as a dealer-installed option, or give manufacturers a tax break on all ABS and airbag equipped vehicles equivalent to the taxes incurred due to the price increase required to add said equipment.

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