Forturner (2.5) or Everest (2.5)

[stroker_200]

Hi There. I'm shopping for a bigger car and I narrowed down my choices to these two. My dilemma is that my heart is saying Fortuner, while my mind is speaking Everest. Because of the D4D issues on choking and black smoke, I'm having doubts of getting the Fortuner.

The Everest seemed to be more reliable and will serve me well long term. But when I test drove it, it felt lethargic, mabagal and makupad. Unlike the Fortuner which was very responsive, the Everest moved slower and I had to depress the pedal harder to move the Everest. Well, I drove the Everest around Eastwood city complex and there is not enough road to make hataw or birit. I plan to do another test drive this weekened in Ford Libis when traffic is lighter.

I think if only my test drive experience with the Everest will turn out to be better than that of the Fortuner, then I'd be signing up the PO na for Everest. I drive an Altis 1.8 so medyo hinahanap ko yung responsiveness nito sa Everest. Paano ba dapat ko i-test drive ang Everest? Tips naman please.

Also in the area of fuel consumption, mas maganda ba ang Everest than Fortuner?

Any other inputs you can provide me to help me finalize my choice, will be appreciated.

thanks so much.

[gildred]

Based on papers Everest 2.5 can produce 145hp * 3500 RPM while Fortuner 2.5 can come out only with 102hp * 3600 RPM. So it's quite surprising when you say Fortuner 2.5 is more responsive than the other. It's possible that you test drove the 2.7 or 3.0.
Anyway, between the two, if these are the only choices, I would go for the Everest. Para sa akin mas pogi siya at yung fortuner kasi nakakasawa nang tignan.

[Altis6453]

I've never ridden an Everest. If you're gonna be driving, you'd probably like the handling of the Fortuner. But, if its utility and FC, I think the argument is in favor of the Everest.

[stroker_200]

Thanks for the replies. I have test drove both the 2.5 engines. I'm surprised by the responsiveness of the Fortuner...very even ang power distribution. Yung experience ko sa Everest eh may lag sa 1st at 2nd gear, pero power comes in sa 3rd.

I am the designated driver of the family so dapat masaya ako sa test drive

[ronw123w124]

The Fortuner and the Everest maybe a good contender. But why not check out the Sta.Fe and the new Montero Sport? these 2 might suit you better.

[stroker_200]

I have seen both the Sta Fe and Montero Sport. Both are beautiful, but I want the truckiness of the Fortuner and Everest. So I'm decided na to get either...hope you can help me. thanks.

[Horsepower]

Try test driving the Everest again. I've tested both 2.5 and 3.0 and they're very fast.

The hood is a bit long though which would need getting used to.

[Monseratto]

The new 2009 Fortuner will debut on 22nd of September. Few added amenities like the ceiling aircom ducts will make it more desirable. However, I saw a 2.5 Fortuner spewing black smoke as it struggled to climb the Quezon Avenue fly-over.

[Drave]

Thanks for the replies. I have test drove both the 2.5 engines. I'm surprised by the responsiveness of the Fortuner...very even ang power distribution. Yung experience ko sa Everest eh may lag sa 1st at 2nd gear, pero power comes in sa 3rd.

I am the designated driver of the family so dapat masaya ako sa test drive

Maybe the fort has taller 1st and 2nd gear compared to the eve giving you the feeling of more responsiveness. But the 3rd and 4th are more important on the road because this is what you frequently use in overtaking.

May nakasabay na akong 2.5 fort at mabagal siya. Sabagay, 3.0 yung eve ko. Pero, may nakasabay din akong 3.0 na fort at naiwan ko rin siya (most likely due to the higher TDCi torque)

[meateater]

Ok sana ang fortuner pero matagtag ang likod when I tested it with my friend. No offense to fortuner owners.

I have not tested the everest yet, so I can't say its better, pero kung hindi matagtag ang likod then it will get my vote.

As far as engine displacement goes, kung city driving lang, go for the smaller one.

[XTO]

just wait for a few days to have a look and test too on the facelifted fortuner. newer look including interior means mas brusko. personally i like everest over the fort because they have the m/t variant wherein i can maximize it's full power...when needed hehe. i'm no a/t lover. sobrang tipid ako eh .

hoping too that the fort comes up with manual transmission gaya sa thailand. hanep ang 3.0G m/t

[Monseratto]

The eve's leg room sa rear passenger is higher than sa fort. Not very comfortable if you have a tall passenger seated in front. Also the eve's third seat are for midgets compared to fort's. The eve's ride is more matagtag cuz it still uses leaf springs. The fort uses coil spring, which is not that matagtag. The eve's green instrument panel lights is so old looking compared to the white display. Yan nga lang, parang kapalit ng Revo yung fort sa dami nila sa daan...

[Gerbo]

Indeed there are those who actually preferred the 2.5 Fortuner but opted for the 2.5 Everest because of the manual tranny and the more power output the latter offers.

[Esnie.com]

i go for everest, for city driving purpose go get the 2.5 and if you want more power go get the 3.0variant. daming issues sa D4D ng toyota.

[stroker_200]

Thanks for your inputs....very helpful for me.

Last Wednesday, my wife and I saw a black Fortuner emitting black smoke, somewhere along Mother Ignacia. Bago pa siya, ZK**** ang plaka. I remember the horror stories I read in this forum specific to the 2.5 D4D engine. The more I became uncomfortable deciding with the Fortuner.

Do you think the new Fortuner (coming out this month) will have this problem (as well as the other issues -> tagtag, choking) corrected?

May I ask those with 2.5 D4D, what made you decide to still go with the Fortuner despite the reported problems? I'm really having a hard time deciding on the Fortuner.

With the Everest, my only concern is the fuel consumption. I've read that the Gen1 model is doing 4 to 5 km/liter only. For the Gen2, iba iba ang nababasa ko na FC. Merong 6; merong 8 km/lit. Anong experience nyo mga Everest owners.

Many thanks to all for your continued help.
ronald.

[quan2boy]

You have indeed quite a tough decision to make. Both looks good and have their own pluses and minuses. What I do when face with this situation is to go with:

1. Track record you feel more comfortable with (i.e. Ford vs Toyota).
2. Anticipated resale value when the time comes.
3. Pogi points :-)

Just curious why you prefer diesel. Not to add complexity to an already difficult decision, but if it's because of FC, you may want to consider the Fortuner 2.7G. I get about 6-6.5 km/l city driving and for an A/T 2.7 engine, I think it's not bad. You also get the responsiveness of gasoline. Plus, it's cheaper to convert to LPG later on making it more attractive than diesel in terms of FC. :-)

[stroker_200]

Thanks Quan2boy. Kung hindi ko magugustuhan ang drive ng Everest, and kung hindi ko ma-a-accept ang D4d, malamang mag Fortuner VVTi na nga lang ako.

[Gerbo]

malamang mag Fortuner VVTi na nga lang ako.

Yeah...best value indeed. Btw, most of the Fortuner sales are of the 2.7 VVTI variant.

Advantages:
-cheapest, best value for your money.
-konti naman lang difference diesel and gas
-you do not have to deal with D4D issues.
-puede ipa-LPG in the future

[stroker_200]

Guys, thanks so much for all the inputs. Very helpful talaga kayo...ang dami kong nakuhang perspectives.

My testdrive with the Everest went well...in fact, very well. I had an enjoyable driving experience; I felt the torque of the engine as it pushes the 2 tonner vehicle. I'm decided to get the Everest. Your inputs and the driving experience helped me finalize my choice.

Maraming salamat sa inyong lahat.

[Biggs]

Guys, thanks so much for all the inputs. Very helpful talaga kayo...ang dami kong nakuhang perspectives.

My testdrive with the Everest went well...in fact, very well. I had an enjoyable driving experience; I felt the torque of the engine as it pushes the 2 tonner vehicle. I'm decided to get the Everest. Your inputs and the driving experience helped me finalize my choice.

Maraming salamat sa inyong lahat.

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