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**Starex_Gold** · May 5th, 2011 12:34 AM

I'd go for the Focus TDCi. I won't mind if the new model is coming out soon. Yung ititipid mo sa cost ng diesel at consumption, ipang PMS mo nalang yun.

I suppose hindi ka naman kuripot diba. My family owns 3 cars with modern CRDi engines, hindi naman naging sakit sa ulo ang PMS cost..

I just don't like the rims of the Focus TDCi..

**tidus1203** · May 5th, 2011 12:43 AM

Don't forget also the price diff of car itself between the TDCi and the Petrol. Pag low mileage (10,000km or less a year) ka di mo na mababawi yung difference on fuel savings alone... At least in a reasonable amount of time...

**Starex_Gold** · May 5th, 2011 12:49 AM

Pero kung long term ang kotse sa kanya like 10 years or more, hindi advisable ang CRDi. Mas maagang bibigay yung mga injector.

Habol ko sa diesel yung power & torque. Na-satisfy lang ako sa petrol dun sa mga V6. Pero masyado nang malakas sa gas eh. So I don't mind kung 10,000kms lang ako per year. Medyo matipid ako gumamit sa kotse, 12,300 palang mileage ng Tucson ko ngayon eh, while yung SF nasa 11K na (almost 6 months palang)

**tradewind26** · May 5th, 2011 07:24 AM

Tama yung mga expert. "Mileage + PMS cost" will be your deciding factor to either get Petrol or Diesel. Syempre kung low mileage ka, d mo masusulit yung PMS mo. Sa tulad kong with average 20kms a day to work, eh lugi ako sa PMS cost ng Diesel engine. So best for me is Petrol.

**htc8p** · May 5th, 2011 11:29 AM

hindi ba mas ma usok ang diesel? meron kaming innova na diesel mas mabaho yung exhaust compared sa altis na gas.

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**miked** · May 5th, 2011 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by htc8p

hindi ba mas ma usok ang diesel? meron kaming innova na diesel mas mabaho yung exhaust compared sa altis na gas.

???

what do you mean bro? mas gusto mo exhaust smell ng gas? hehe....ako eh i love the smell of diesel in the morning.

**renzo_d10** · May 5th, 2011 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by AG4

This one?

Ayan nga. If you posted that dun sa kabilang threads, sorry, kala ko si Tidus.

Originally Posted by tidus1203

Of course those prices are subject to inflation so don't expect 5 years from now those PMS prices will hold cause for sure they won't...

Ayun nga. But then again, iba pa rin ang feeling when you're driving the TDCi. Power & Torque + the image of having a top of the line vehicle ( eljo, don't get me started .. ) so mas pinipili ko yung ititipid mo sa vehicle purchase eh gagamitin mo sa PMS.

Though if I were to own a diesel-fed vehicle with modern diesel engines, I wont keep it longer than 5-6 years because of injector problems.

Kaya if you're keeping the car for longer than the said years ( about up to 10 ) then I`d rather get the petrol than the TDCi. You're safer that way.

**tidus1203** · May 5th, 2011 12:33 PM

Yeah ayaw ko yung amoy ng CRDi exhaust maasim yung amoy. Yung gasoline exhaust mas mild and of course mas hindi malakas ang emmission so sometimes di mo na na-aamoy...

**AG4** · May 5th, 2011 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

Yeah ayaw ko yung amoy ng CRDi exhaust maasim yung amoy. Yung gasoline exhaust mas mild and of course mas hindi malakas ang emmission so sometimes di mo na na-aamoy...

The exhaust emissions of our gasoline Focus smells a bit like alcohol.

Maybe thats because we load XCS Plus, 95 octane E10.