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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Somebody just posted a video in YouTube of the testing done within BGC.

    The All New 2020 Ford Territory in the Flesh. The first glimpse in the Philippines - YouTube


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    Looks more like a shoot for the Territory's launch video, like what they did for the local launch of the F150.

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    The compact crossover was spotted by one of our readers over the weekend. He sent us images that appear to show two units partaking in a photo shoot in Bonifacio Global City—possibly part of a marketing effort heading toward the launch.
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    It looks like the baby 2020 ford explorer. Na pinagsama sa geely coolray [emoji23]

    Same engine ba ito dun sa fiesta ecoboost? Or chinese engineered engine ito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    It looks like the baby 2020 ford explorer. Na pinagsama sa geely coolray [emoji23]

    Same engine ba ito dun sa fiesta ecoboost? Or chinese engineered engine ito?

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    China-engineered engine ata. It does not use the 1.0L 3-cylinder Ecoboost of the Fiesta or the 1.5L 4-cylinder Ecoboost of the Focus/Escape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    China-engineered engine ata. It does not use the 1.0L 3-cylinder Ecoboost of the Fiesta or the 1.5L 4-cylinder Ecoboost of the Focus/Escape.
    The Territory's EcoBoost 145 is an upgraded version of the JMC-Ford and AVL-developed 1.5-liter turbocharged gasoline direct injection engine. Compared to Ford's 1.5 EcoBoost, this one features a timing chain and Miller cycle. Designed for fuel efficiency and low emissions.

    AVL is an Austraian engineering company.

    A Miller Cycle engine is basically the turbo/supercharged version of the Atkinson cycle engine now commonly found in hybrid cars and some non-hybrid models like the Hyundai Kona 2.0. Miller Cycle: How does a Miller-cycle engine work? | HowStuffWorks

    The 1.0-liter EcoBoost has been phased out of China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AG4 View Post
    The Territory's EcoBoost 145 is an upgraded version of the JMC-Ford and AVL-developed 1.5-liter turbocharged gasoline direct injection engine. Compared to Ford's 1.5 EcoBoost, this one features a timing chain and Miller cycle. Designed for fuel efficiency and low emissions.

    AVL is an Austraian engineering company.

    A Miller Cycle engine is basically the turbo/supercharged version of the Atkinson cycle engine now commonly found in hybrid cars and some non-hybrid models like the Hyundai Kona 2.0. Miller Cycle: How does a Miller-cycle engine work? | HowStuffWorks

    The 1.0-liter EcoBoost has been phased out of China.
    So technically it is an Australian-American-Chinese-built engine [emoji16]

    Or maybe a chinese ecoboost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    So technically it is an Australian-American-Chinese-built engine [emoji16]
    AVL is Austrian and Ford Australia also did durability testing, which includes powertrain (aside from the actual vehicle).
    So Chinese-Austrian tweaked by Australians?



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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    It looks like the baby 2020 ford explorer. Na pinagsama sa geely coolray [emoji23]

    Same engine ba ito dun sa fiesta ecoboost? Or chinese engineered engine ito?

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    mukhang clean slate design ng isa sa mga partners ni Ford (JMC): JX4G15C5L(6MT)/JX4G15C6L(CVT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    It looks like the baby 2020 ford explorer. Na pinagsama sa geely coolray [emoji23]
    It basically follows the general Ford design language.



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    AWD ba yung Titanium models?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    AWD ba yung Titanium models?


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    I believe it's all FWD for now even in China. Probably so it won't overlap with the Escape.

    Titanium trim is really more on added bling and tech/safety features like Active City Stop, Active Park Assist, 360-degree camera etc.
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    Ah so toque steer is a standard feature

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Ah so toque steer is a standard feature
    Like all the other FWD cars. However, like most FWD cars with not much power, torque steer will not be noticeable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Like all the other FWD cars. However, like most FWD cars with not much power, torque steer will not be noticeable.


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    its a turbo...hence a feature to lead foot drivers

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Ah so toque steer is a standard feature
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    its a turbo...hence a feature to lead foot drivers
    At 225Nm of torque, it produces only 5Nm more than a Civic 1.5 Turbo.... this is no Type-R. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AG4 View Post
    At 225Nm of torque, it produces only 5Nm more than a Civic 1.5 Turbo.... this is no Type-R. lol
    A small "tug"

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    If the traction control is off and you floor the accelerator, I guess this will be the time that torque steer is noticeable for small vehicles with a bit torque than usual. On most tlmes and with the usual less aggressive accelerator pedal motion, most people will not notice it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    If the traction control is off and you floor the accelerator, I guess this will be the time that torque steer is noticeable for small vehicles with a bit torque than usual. On most tlmes and with the usual less aggressive accelerator pedal motion, most people will not notice it.


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    That's true. In normal driving situations, torque steer is seemingly non-existent. I also tried going fast with a fiesta ecoboost before and I don't recall it having issues with torque steer. The bad torque steer might just be isolated with the Focus, because apparently even the ST have issues with it. Bagong platform naman itong Territory plus it has a different engine with lower horsepower...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    That's true. In normal driving situations, torque steer is seemingly non-existent. I also tried going fast with a fiesta ecoboost before and I don't recall it having issues with torque steer. The bad torque steer might just be isolated with the Focus, because apparently even the ST have issues with it. Bagong platform naman itong Territory plus it has a different engine with lower horsepower...
    Most cases of torque steer threads on the Focus and Fiesta usually mention the high-performance ST. In the case of the Fiesta ST, it has Overboost function that can raise the torque to 290Nm for a limited period.

    Not exact but similar suspension/subframe layout as the Focus/Escape. Like most modern FWD cars, it appears to have equal-length halfshafts and an intermediate shaft.



    For those terrified at 225Nm, watch out for the 2WD Tucson CRDi with 402Nm of torque going to the front wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AG4 View Post
    Most cases of torque steer threads on the Focus and Fiesta usually mention the high-performance ST. In the case of the Fiesta ST, it has Overboost function that can raise the torque to 290Nm for a limited period.

    The Territory has 225Nm so I think it shouldn't be an issue, this is not like a CRDi Tucson 2WD with over 400Nm going to the front wheels.
    Not exact but similar suspension layout as the Focus/Escape. Like most modern FWD cars, it appears to have equal-length halfshafts and an intermediate shaft.

    The Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost does have an overboost function between 4500 to 5000 rpm. The small 1.0L turbo engine is rated at 170Nm from 1700 rpm but it increases to 200Nm for a short period at the higher rev range. The EUDM models are tuned for higher output 140hp/210Nm.


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