and besides that... kung may problema ang turbo na nakakabit sa ranger... edi sana MAjority ng owners is complaining... it only means that its an isolated case... ang problema wala sa TURBO, kungdi sa After Sales service ng Dealer na nabilan nyo ng Ranger..Originally Posted by jut703
si sir yebo hindi po ba nagkaron na din kayo ng problema sa turbo... and as per your story it was fixed in a weeks time? then so far up to now hindi nanaman bumalik ang turbo problems mo?
if thats the case... hindi ang RANGER or ang turbo ang problema, nasa dealer yan....
lahat ng mechanical, electrical or any other parts, sooner or later it will fail... because of wear and tear or factory defect...
makina lang yan... kahit yung US space shuttle na sumabog pag take off eh...
hindi lang mawawala ang mga haters... (yung iba hindi lang talaga nila matangap)
pero if you have driven one and regularly use a ranger t6 masasabi nyo talaga, its a notch higher compare sa iba...
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November 1st, 2014 11:56 AM #6621Last edited by glenn manikis; November 1st, 2014 at 12:01 PM.
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November 1st, 2014 12:14 PM #6622hindi lang looks... kung sobrang ganda nga ang itsura kung kakalog kalog ka naman sa loob at parang truck-jeep ang gamit mo... kahit anong ganda pa nyan hindi mo bibilhin yan... Originally Posted by Djerms
IMO overall its the best pickup in the market..
TEst drive nyo, and compare...
madami kasi dyan ang nakikita lang sa ranger yung naging issue then palalakihin...
then yung mga ibang fanbois naman ng ibang club sasakyan ng sasakyan...
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November 1st, 2014 12:26 PM #6623It was replaced at 5300 km and has only ran 1800 km since, so i can not yet say if it is fixed.
Ang concern ko guys is what if it happens after the warranty? Paano sagot mo na yung P140k turbo replacement since walang recall? Also yung powertrain/cel problem only rumors of a secretly done software upgrade? Bakit ginagawa nila secretly, without telling even the owner of the vehicle? Why not just announce a software upgrade?
And paulit-ulit ang post kasi may nagtanong, hindi to blow out of proportion ang problem. May problem, why sweep it under the rug? Kung walang nagtanong walang sasagutin. Masama ba sumagot? Kayo ba kung magtatanong kayo gusto nyo walang sasagot? At pag hindi ayon sa opinion nyo ang sagot galit kayo? Forum ito ano. Kung ayaw nyo ng ibang opinion gawa kayo ng blog.
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November 1st, 2014 02:21 PM #6624Yan din ang concern ko sa Ranger - even if warranty service is good, what if it happens after the warranty period dahil nga mahal ang turbo.
But I go back to the fact that it's not a widespread problem. The powertrain warning light turns on for quite a number of people, but hindi lahat turbo problem. Yung iba air filter lang, yung iba electrical glitch lang. Eto yung mga nagwawarning light na hindi limp mode.
Possible din though na yung hose yung problem sa ganito, a microtear might not be enough to cause limp mode but enough for the sensor to fail. Yung isa kasing Ranger na nakita kong nagka-warning light problem, ang laki ng hiwa sa hose, kasya na ipis.
In any case, I'm not saying the Ranger is problem-free. I think of it more like the Fiesta Ecoboost - a really great car, but with an off-chance of a faulty DCT. Overall I will still recommend it, but of course potential buyers should be informed of any quirks of the car. Caveat emptor.
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November 1st, 2014 03:23 PM #6625this is the correct question, that not only involves the ranger but all the vehicles. there must be another law passed for a proper recall procedure and the consumer act must be strengthened further. Originally Posted by yebo
yes there is a warranty- but the warranty given by the manufacturer goes hand in hand with the law on sales(warranties against hidden defect) which will never be superseded by the manufacturers warranty.
you may opt to cancel the sales contract (dti-ca-sc via consumer act and now lemon law)
chattel mortgage is not a part of the sales contract(contract between you- you own the vehicle and the dealer) - it is a different contract of loan and using your vehicle as a chattel to secure the payment of the loan- it is between you and the bank(they never own the vehicle) and the local registry(chattel mortgage fee) to which it was recorded.
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November 1st, 2014 04:08 PM #6626sir mahirap naman siguro kung basta basta tayo magpapaniwala sa rumors or "tsismis" na may software upgrade na itinatago ang casa? Originally Posted by yebo
and if the rumors are true, it will be to their disadvantage. if that upgrade is the cause of t6 turbo problems, sila ang unang sasakit ang ulo at magagastusan, coz they got us covered for 3 years or 100,000 kms...
if our turbo last for 3 years, then why wont it last naman for the next 3 years again? kung defective talaga ang turbo or anything that will cause it to fail prematurely im sure it wont last longer than our warranty....
pero sa kabilang banda possible din naman? i remember kasi before my 1st check up or less than 1000kms. napansin ko nang lumabas yung power train light na yun 3x pero hindi naman nag limp mode... i did not pay attention to it because at that time i dont know what it was... but after my 1000kms pms... up to now 13k kms. it never showed up again... baka nga without us knowing they upgraded it...?
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November 1st, 2014 04:13 PM #6627if i were you sir yebo.. gagamitin ko ng gagamitin, kung masira man at least during the warranty.
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November 1st, 2014 11:16 PM #6628Software upgrade okay lang kahit patago. Ginagawa naman talaga yan ng mga local distributors. As one of the posters who actually bought a T6, I understand Yebo's concern. Fingers crossed nalang bro. Hehe.
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November 1st, 2014 11:21 PM #6629Decided to cancel my order and refunded my 30% DP. For me it's not normal for a brand new vehicle to have problems, be it a check engine light, turbo, rattling sounds, battery, etc. Read in the Ford Club thread that problem still exists. Might get the FJ cruiser instead. At least I'll have a peace of mind. Thank you to all those who shared their experiences.
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November 2nd, 2014 01:13 AM #6630Pag naranasan mo na masabugan ng turbo 6months old 15,000 kilometers maiintindihan mo din kami, simple as that! Originally Posted by glenn manikis
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November 2nd, 2014 01:26 AM #6631Batangenyo has an fj- good no bs performance, gas guzzler though Originally Posted by beebs
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November 2nd, 2014 11:52 AM #6632i understand naman po ang feelings nyo... actually pag nakakabasa nga ako ng tulad ng nangyari sainyo eh kakampi nyo ako dyan (actually banned ako SA FORD CLUB PHILIPPINES (glennman) sa kakatira sa kanila... Originally Posted by Batangenyo
ang sakin lang... hindi sa RANGER t6 ang problema kungdi sa after sales service ng dealer... and makina lang yan... lahat naman ng sasakyan kahit toyota fj pa yan.. meron at meron lalabas na unit na may defect...
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November 2nd, 2014 12:29 PM #6633Yes lahat ng sasakyan may mga problema specially new releases pero depende din kasi sa problema. Minor problems okay lang pero multiple CEL and a major part failure hindi na acceptable for me. Bakit ko lolokohin sarili ko na normal na nangyayari yan wherein may mga sasakyan na bago na hindi naman nararanasan yan.
I also own a different pick-up brand na hindi naman ako binigyan ng kahit anong problema since new. In fact wala nga ako na experience na CEL. Rattles lang ang problema which I think is liveable (as my 2012 civic FB also had these....what more on a pickup). Kaya for me hindi normal na magka CEL and hardware failure ang isang bagong sasakyan. Minsan kasi we make it sound normal kasi palagi nanatin na eexperience on a certain brand kaya akala natin na eexperience din ito sa ibang brands. Kahit na na confuse pa din ang ECU at umilaw pero wala naman talagang long term problem, the fact na umilaw yun pero hindi naman dapat umilaw, problema yan for me.
Re after sales ng Ford, pareho lang ng sa ibang car brands. Some branches suck, some are really good. For me Ford Cainta and the best. Ford Libis ang worst.
Ang sakin lang, may problema talaga ang RANGER T6. Hindi ako hater, in fact I love the T6 driving dynamics and tech. Sana nga masolusyonan ang prob. Update on my friend's ranger. Napalitan na daw ng Turbo, no noticeable difference vs the damaged one. Pinalitan din ng lahat ng filters tapos reset ECU. Okay na daw...so far.
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November 2nd, 2014 01:44 PM #6634lemon car- one in a thousand - in this case it's not a lemon car anymore.
don't get me wrong, we almost bought a ranger this year... good thing we found this thread and back read about it.
tama si mr. batangenyo. this forum helps, to let the public/consumer know. ang ayaw ko lang is bashers and trashers - if your a fan then good but not to the point na fanatic na- there would always be something better eventually.
ayaw ko naman ng colorado kasi 2 na tbz namin, ayaw ko naman ng strada kasi papalitan na, ayaw ko naman ng hi lux kasi same old look pa din, gusto ko ranger kaso gusto ko ayusin na sana nila yung turbo issues
yung mga sinaunang ranger yung pinatubo edition, alam niyo ba yun iniwan sa river patay ang engine the whole day until the river swelled up-enveloping the whole pick up, tapos when they tried to start it up, one click lang ayos na.
it's not a lemon- may bugs pa talaga itong ranger since fairly new- where did they outsource the turbo anyway?
it's not worth debating about it, owners here, whether their ranger has some issues or not should help in a healthy discussion to be able to fix the problem, i see this as a win win situation for all consumers. hirap kasi yung iba akala hearsay agad at kung ano anong conclusions na.
we already have enough drama in our politics and daily lives, pati ba sa ranger gusto niyong dagdagan- magtulungan huwag manira - stop the crab mentality crap
most of all magbasa ng mabuti - bago magsabi ng kung ano ano, di mo alam nakakasakit ka na pala.
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November 2nd, 2014 02:32 PM #6635Noone's denying naman that the Ranger has problems. Common naman yan for new cars. The good thing with the case of the Ranger's CEL/turbo issues is that there's a fix for it and when it happens to your unit, hindi naman tinatakbuhan ng Ford. Stark difference from the Accent knocking issues na paulit ulit pinapaikot ng mga Hyundai casa yung mga owners na nagkakaproblema. Cause for concern lang pag after warranty nangyari sayo since walang recall kasi medyo mahal ang turbo talaga.
I do think that we should be objective here. Ilan na ba ang nagkaissue, compared sa ilan lahat ng Ranger? Any estimate of the percentage? 1%? 5%? 20%? Informing potential buyers of how common the problem persists is better than just saying "ah may problema turbo niyan eh wag ka na bumili".
I went over this thread but it's over 600 pages so it'll take some time, but so far I think around 5-10% lang nagkakaron ng problem. I estimate over a hundred or so forumers that have Rangers and IIRC less than 10 yung may CEL/turbo problems.
Isa na ko sa nagkaron ng CEL problems. Before it happened to me, sabi ko, "ay konti lang naman yung mga nagkaproblema, I doubt I'll get it". When I finally had multiple CEL incidents, I thought for a time na hindi talaga reliable yung Ranger dahil nagkaproblema yung unit ko. Pero at the end of the day, iisa lang naman ako. The fact that it happened to me doesn't change the bigger picture na konti parin lang naman talaga nagkakaproblema.
Will I recommend still recommend the Ranger despite potential issues? Yes. It still drives better than any other pick-up in the market right now. Sobrang layo ng handling and braking niya sa Strada, Dmax, or Hilux. It still has a complete set of features that are even better than some CUVs (Bluetooth, voice control, cruise control, rain-sensing wipers, auto headlamps, leather steering wheel, etc). It's also very fuel efficient (8-10 km/L city driving). Ang laki rin ng space for both passengers and cargo.
So ultimately, I still think it's the best pick-up in the market, but buyers should know that they face the risk na baka magkaproblem unit nila down the road.
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November 2nd, 2014 10:02 PM #6636Sa akin naman kahit kunti lang ang may turbo problem, sana naman may official statement na ford na iniimbestigahan na nila yan. Hindi normal yang turbo failure sa sasakyan na wala pang isang taon or 100,000kms tinatakbo. Dapat bigyan nila assurance customers and potential buyers na inaayos na yan. Kasi kapag tapos na warranty at walang malinaw na solusyon dyan, kawawa ang bumili.
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November 2nd, 2014 11:09 PM #6637Untill now wait and see parin ako sa problems and solutions ng Ranger.
Ito sana ang ipapalit ko sa almost 7yo Navara. Sa isip ko bakit ako magpapalit ng bago kung baka magkaproblema ang ipapalit, eh wala ako problema kay Nav(now on its 120k kms), fuel efficient pa rin naman at 10-12km/liter, and the engine hasn't skipped a beat. Siguro kung puro sakit ng ulo at bababa ng 10km/l ibebenta ko na ito, pero wala naman sofar. Pero sa totoo lang napopogian ako kay ranga kaya gusto ko magpalit, im just discouraged with its performance and relaibility (fuel consumption and turbo/powertrain probs). I have a biz colleague who owns a 4x4 Navara and 3.2 Ranger, hindi daw sya kumbinsido sa Ranger kaya ayaw ibenta yung Navara kaya napaisip ulit ako...
Sana magkaroon ng permanent fix ang Ford dito.
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November 2nd, 2014 11:42 PM #6638Pano pa yung Fiesta - ang dami dami nang nagkaron ng TCM/PCM problems pero wala namang official statement from Ford. Originally Posted by Ry_Tower
They extended transmission warranty to 5 years, but kawawa pa rin yun mga inabutan ng problem outside warranty. 70k ang palit ng TCM.
What customers need is assurance that their car won't break down even after many years of use. I don't think you can have that assurance with the Ranger and Fiesta. Great cars but reliability will surely put off lots of buyers.
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November 3rd, 2014 01:00 AM #6640pag check ko ngayon sa olx grabe 100-300k nalang pala 2nd hand fiesta ngayon year 2011-2012 Originally Posted by 170kphlang
masmahal pa vios 2nd gen eh
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