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    totoo ba to...napanood ko ung isang episode ng (Gordon) Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares...he mentioned something to the effect that a cook cooks for only one table at a time, pero ung chef can cook for several tables.

    totoo ba to? if yes, my hats off to the professional chefs out there.

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    I never thought that there was a difference between the two.

    Very intriguing indeed


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    it boggles the mind...not really sure if he meant it literally, or siya ung magmanage sa ibang chefs/cooks.

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    Ahhhhh... hierarcy in the restraunteur business!

    Executive chef is the overall in charge.

    Sous Chef: Second in command, reports directly to the Head Chef/Executive Chef Sous is French for "under" Chef. They are is directly in charge of production. Because the executive chef's responsibilities require spending a great deal of time in the office, the sous chef takes command of the actual production and the minute-by-minute supervision of the staff. A direct executive assistant of the executive chef, the sous chef often shares some duties with the executive chef, such as menu planning, costing and ordering. Kitchens often have more than one sous chef, with each having their own unique areas of responsibility such as the banquet sous chef in charge of all banquets or the executive sous chef in charge of all other sous chefs.


    A Line Chef: Also known as... A chef de partie, also known as a "station chef", is in charge of a particular area of production. In large kitchens, each station chef might have several cooks and/or assistants. In most kitchens however, the station chef is the only worker in that department. These positions are generally referred to as "line cook" positions. Line cooks are often divided into a hierarchy of their own, starting with "First Cook", then "Second Cook", and so on as needed. Station chef titles can include: Sauce chef or saucier (so-see-ay) - prepares sauces, stews, and hot hors d'oeuvres, and sautes foods to order. This is usually the highest position of all the stations.

    Fish cook or poissonier (pwah-so-nyay) - Prepares fish dishes. (This station may be handled by the saucier in some kitchens).

    Vegetable cook or entremetier (awn-truh-met-yay) - Prepares vegetables, soups, starches, and eggs. Large kitchens may divide these duties among the vegetable cook, the fry cook, and the soup cook.

    Roast cook or rotisseur (ro-tee-sur) - Prepares roasted and braised meats and their gravies, and broils meats and other items to order. A large kitchen may have a separate broiler cook or grillardin (gree-ar-dan) to handle the broiled items. The broiler cook may also prepare deep-fried meats and fish.

    The pantry chef or garde manger (gard-mawn-zhay) - is responsible for cold foods, including salads and dressings, pâtés, cold hors d'oeuvres, and buffet items.

    Pastry chef or pâtissier (pa-tees-syay) - prepares pastries and desserts.

    The relief cook, swing cook, or tournant (toor-nawn) - replaces other station heads.

    A prep cook: This position requires repetitive tasks in the readying of ingredients for entrees, such as slicing and dicing vegetables, weighing and measuring ingredients, stirring and straining sauces, cutting meats, poultry, and seafood, as well as cleaning work areas and equipment and dishes.

    Chef has schooling behind him and a degree while a cook learned it off the cuff.
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    You can say that all chefs are cooks, but not all cooks are chefs.

    Naalala ko tuloy yung nakilala kong chef ng isang hospital cafeteria. At one point during our conversation, I referred to him as a "cook". Aba, tinaasan ako ng kilay at sabi "Excuse me ... I'm a chef, not a cook."

    Chef na kung chef, pero hirit ko naman, "Whatever. Cook, chef ... it's still the same sh*t." (I was also referring to the cafeteria food )

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    paano yun daga? si remi?

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    The main difference between a cook and a chef from an employer's POV...

    Mas mababa ang pasweldo sa cook.

    hehe


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    to some chef sounds like a well educated, skilled person that demands a higher salary.

    a cook sound more like a cook on a cafeteria...

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    chef is a cook that handles a group of cooks.

    hope this clear up things

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    chef is a cook that handles a group of cooks.

    hope this clear up things

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    pareho lang...sweldo lang ang iba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutedoc View Post
    to some chef sounds like a well educated, skilled person that demands a higher salary.

    a cook sound more like a cook on a cafeteria...

    Correct a Chef has a degree. Bachelors degree in Culinary Arts.

    There are very few schools offer this degree and here they are.

    Here in the U.S the best known on the east coast are C.I.A.(Culinary Institute of America), Johnson and Wales, and New England Culinary Institute.

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    Plain semantics. Wikipedia defines a chef as someone who cooks professionally. It's a lot like calling a headwaiter as maitre d'. Mas sosy lang pakinggan, but they're practically the same.

    chef is a cook that handles a group of cooks.

    hope this clear up things
    Huh????

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    sa greenbelt tawag sa iyo chef....sa dampa tawag sa iyo cook.

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    As someone with background in the food service industry I can tell you that not all chef's have a degree in culinary arts. I've worked with chef's who worked their way to becoming a chef from the bottom up. They trained with different chef's and learned from their experience, taking the best from each and becoming a chef as they rose through the ranks. A lot of the European and Japanese chefs that I have dealt with rose through that manner. In my late teens I trained under the wings of a Japanese chef before deciding that I wanted to keep the culinary arts an avocation rather than my occupation.

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    The French invented the art of culinary studies...for me a basic fundamental in culinary studies is enough...experience + creativity and love for cooking then you will be a good chef.

    TIP... You want to be a CHEF?.... read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential....

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    ang cook sa karinderia

    ang chef sa restauramt

    :bwahaha:

    :peace:

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    Same sh*t if you ask me...pa sos lang yung title nung isa, yung isa naman 'watever'...and the price they put on the menu, but it all boils down to one thing...they cook the food at no (particular proportions) with their own touch of class(sweat, tears[pun intended])...IMO, what matters really is, kung masarap sya at malinis ginawa...BOW!

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    Well.. a chef is usually those that has been schooled in some culinary institute... A cook usually operates from some hand me down knowledge.

    But if you analyze it the expertise are both hand-me-down from a supposed "guru"...nasa formal educational setting lang yon isa.

    So in a group of "cooks" decision have to be deferred to a "chef" who has to take command because he/she has the "formal" training for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellfire2428 View Post
    with their own touch of class(sweat, tears[pun intended])...IMO, what matters really is, kung masarap sya at malinis ginawa...BOW!
    sweat ba kamo?

    ang sweat ng chef ( sa ulo ) inaabsorb ng toque ba yun? hehe

    and sa cook naman, punas punas lang ng GOOD MORNING™ na twalya.

    :bwahaha:

    :twak:

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