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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    That takes intelligence and class

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    Insulting people is now intelligent and classy? What's the world coming to.

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    somebody doesn't get what Cathy is saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    Insulting people is now intelligent and classy? What's the world coming to.

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    si uls na lang mage explain

    It only means that a person can "fight a battle" in a sophisticated manner. Hindi yung naninigaw o nagmumura

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    I don't think uls was directing that at you. It was just an example. Tama naman explanation niya na there is a classy way of saying things. Everyone gets mad but it's handled differently.

    Also, uls only pastes articles to support his statements, but the interpretation is his.

    Wala ako kinakampihan dito, I called out uls several times already but this time he means no malice

    Sorry kung nagka misunderstanding because of me pero there are times when I am too lazy to verbalize my though or explain things so I ask uls to do it for me

    Peace na tayo lahat

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    BTT: Maybe he wants me to fall out of love. Yun lang, pag ako nag fall out of love, the guy doesn't exist anymore because when I move on, tunnel vision ako [emoji14]

    Napaisip ako sa post ni shadow dati. Hindi dapat masyado mababa tingin sa sarili ko, hindi lang ako ang swerte sa kanya. I also have a lot to offer. Thank you shadow for boosting my morale

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    Me with crush



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    I am so intimate with crush because he is the ONLY person in this world other than my boss who knows my salary

    I felt so bad kasi feeling ko liit sweldo ko but crush told me it's not, and he gave me the industry range, happy na ko I am happy that he respects my career

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I am so intimate with crush because he is the ONLY person in this world other than my boss who knows my salary

    I felt so bad kasi feeling ko liit sweldo ko but crush told me it's not, and he gave me the industry range, happy na ko I am happy that he respects my career
    I know it's a cultural thing but I've always wondered why people aren't as open with sharing salary details to relevant peers. It gives companies more leverage to under-pay.

    Since you don't know whether you're making more or less vs peers, you don't have a clear range of what you should be making.

    With more open salary communication, you can have the conversation to get commensurate pay (assume you have the performance to back it up).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I know it's a cultural thing but I've always wondered why people aren't as open with sharing salary details to relevant peers. It gives companies more leverage to under-pay.

    Since you don't know whether you're making more or less vs peers, you don't have a clear range of what you should be making.

    With more open salary communication, you can have the conversation to get commensurate pay (assume you have the performance to back it up).

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    Don't all companies have rules that salary is confidential? Masyado masunurin collegues ko because even the yearly % increase ayaw magsabi

    Sa first job ko we were open with salary because you get an idea of the salary range based on the level of the person, but with my current company, the salary range is huge because they make an offer based on your previous salary, no matter what your position is when you are hired.

    I have friends and family who have no idea how much their spouse makes My aunt always complains about how she does not even know how much retirement money my Uncle got. My BFF is the same with her husband, she does not know how much he makes, what is important is the bills are paid.

    Napakaintimate kasi sakin ng money matters so it's really a big deal if I discuss this with someone, sa ngayon si crush ang pinakamay alam ng financial standing ko hehehe. My family absolutely have no idea how much I am earning, basta alam nila maliit hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Don't all companies have rules that salary is confidential? Masyado masunurin collegues ko because even the yearly % increase ayaw magsabi

    Sa first job ko we were open with salary because you get an idea of the salary range based on the level of the person, but with my current company, the salary range is huge because they make an offer based on your previous salary, no matter what your position is when you are hired.

    I have friends and family who have no idea how much their spouse makes My aunt always complains about how she does not even know how much retirement money my Uncle got. My BFF is the same with her husband, she does not know how much he makes, what is important is the bills are paid.

    Napakaintimate kasi sakin ng money matters so it's really a big deal if I discuss this with someone, sa ngayon si crush ang pinakamay alam ng financial standing ko hehehe. My family absolutely have no idea how much I am earning, basta alam nila maliit hehehe
    Wala naman sa contract na bawal malaman ng ibang tao sweldo mo. It puts all the bargaining power with your employer and none for you.

    Personally I don't see any reason to hide your income with your spouse unless you feel papakialaman nila.

    Each couple has a different way of handling finances. What my wife and I do is allocate a fixed personal allowance to ourselves (equal allowance for both of us), then have a % share of the joint household expenses according to the salience of our income to total household income.

    So for example monthly expense is 100k. If her salary is 30% and mine is 70% then our contribution to the monthly expense is 30k and 70k respectively.

    What we dont spend on our monthly expenses and personal allowance gets transferred to our savings account.

    So lahat ng toys that I buy for myself and gifts to my wife I take from my monthly allowance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I am so intimate with crush because he is the ONLY person in this world other than my boss who knows my salary

    I felt so bad kasi feeling ko liit sweldo ko but crush told me it's not, and he gave me the industry range, happy na ko I am happy that he respects my career
    crush, your boss, the office accounting department, and the BIR.
    they all know what your salary is.
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    crush, your boss, the office accounting department, and the BIR.
    they all know what your salary is.
    heh heh.
    Hahaha! Of course kaya nga sabi ko si crush and boss ko lang may alam. Given na naman accounting and BIR

    Yung intimacy namin ni crush, it's still with me kaya I could discuss money with him, but unfortunately he doesn't feel the same for me kasi he still has that wall. He knows I'm having anxiety attacks recently, we'll see, if he really cares about me dapat kamustahin naman niya ko. He never initiates texting me na and that makes me sad. Though he calls me naman

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    Samin kasi every salary discussion, they always stress not to discuss with anyone. Before you leave the room you are given instruction to have a poker face.

    Yung ex ko he only knows my starting salary, so that was 11 yrs ago. Si crush na next person napagsabihan ko, and that's because I really opened myself up to him

    Madami na nagsabi sakin na money matters common cause ng away sa mag asawa kaya dapat claro daw arrangement

    In love ako sa tao when I can talk finances na 😋

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Samin kasi every salary discussion, they always stress not to discuss with anyone. Before you leave the room you are given instruction to have a poker face.

    Yung ex ko he only knows my starting salary, so that was 11 yrs ago. Si crush na next person napagsabihan ko, and that's because I really opened myself up to him

    Madami na nagsabi sakin na money matters common cause ng away sa mag asawa kaya dapat claro daw arrangement

    In love ako sa tao when I can talk finances na [emoji39]

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    Typical HR answer: when you ask someone else who's at your level what their salary is, one of you will be walk away happy and one will walk away sad. Would you risk that you be the one to walk away sad?

    I'd say that a company that's transparent with their salary structure is a positive trait. If it's clear that an objectively higher rated employee will get bigger raises and a higher chance at promotion, then it becomes aspirational as opposed to having pay raises and promotions based on subjective measures.

    Also good to know the min and max of your salary range so you can assess how much more raises you can get before you hit the ceiling of your level before needing a promotion. This one usually isn't transparent for any company, but this is where having open communication with your peers helps (as long as you can deal with whatever salary disparity you guys would have).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Typical HR answer: when you ask someone else who's at your level what their salary is, one of you will be walk away happy and one will walk away sad. Would you risk that you be the one to walk away sad?

    I'd say that a company that's transparent with their salary structure is a positive trait. If it's clear that an objectively higher rated employee will get bigger raises and a higher chance at promotion, then it becomes aspirational as opposed to having pay raises and promotions based on subjective measures.

    Also good to know the min and max of your salary range so you can assess how much more raises you can get before you hit the ceiling of your level before needing a promotion. This one usually isn't transparent for any company, but this is where having open communication with your peers helps (as long as you can deal with whatever salary disparity you guys would have).

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    Sa amin hindi rin pwede idisclose sa colleagues yung salary and I think it's on the contract. Not really sure anymore but it was mentioned on onboarding and all of us sa ganun na nasanay, we're privy of our salary, even our rankings and scores bawal sabihin sa iba.

    But with transparency, we have yearly pay review naman wherein they present to us how at par we are with the other companies when it comes to pay and benefits based on benchmarking done by a third-party company. Also, we have an idea naman of the salary range based nga sa job grade ng staff kasi may starting and ceiling yun. We have KPIs, targets and goals, and that we have visibility of. When we see how a colleague performs, we can have an idea of what his/her score will be at the end of the year. But not the exact momentary value.

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    come to think of it...
    what's with the non-chismis-my-salary clause?
    from what i suspect, the company is protecting only... itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    come to think of it...
    what's with the non-chismis-my-salary clause?
    from what i suspect, the company is protecting only... itself.
    Can't speak for the other companies hehe pero ako so far I have full confidence naman that our company has my best interest in mind. Mahirap magwork sa company that you don't believe in and trust.

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    Woke up with a call from my super handsome and hot prince charming [emoji7] I just want to ravage him. I wonder what I can do so he would lust for me again [emoji12]

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Woke up with a call from my super handsome and hot prince charming [emoji7] I just want to ravage him. I wonder what I can do so he would lust for me again [emoji12]

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    rollercoaster

    ngayon nasa itaas

    hehe

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    No need to wonder. Lots of exercise classes on youtube and zoom out there!

    3 months of that discipline will do wonders for your looks and self esteem!

    Throw away all your chocolates too!

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