How to "deprogram" my cousin

[Monseratto]

Padala niyo sa abroad...

[CVT]

anong pangalan ng CULT nato? hehehe intresado ako

Children of God, bro. ang pangalan ng kanilang kulto....(Ngayon, TFI or The Family International na ang tawag sa kanila)

12K:boom:

[miLes]

he's still in the phase where he's looking to belong to some group, get him involve in other stuff that will surely pique his interest. if i were you id bring him indoor climbing every week, sched mo yung climb niyo ng araw na punta niya dun sa fellowship thing, he'll soon forget about it

or take him running or road long boarding at UP, ang bata mabilis lang mainfluence, the important thing is to connect with him while doing cool activities

[actor21]

di na pala pina practice ang Filthy Fishing sa children of god CVT, ayoko na hehehe

[xoom]

"It's just a stage he's going through,- I think he's just restless for something new...."...

12K:boom:

Rick Springfield, ikaw ba yan?

just tell your cousin, "Don't talk to strangers"

[CoDer]

hi peeps, need some suggestions.

i hope that for anyone that doesn't agree with what i'm trying to do would be polite enough to reserve judgement; the Good Book did say, judge not, lest you be judged.

i found out that a cousin of mine is in the process of, or (hopefully not) already in a "christian fellowship" -- note that i added the double quotes since, from what my aunts and uncles have described it to me, sounds like, smells like, and seems like a cult.


Don't get wrong, i don't think it's a doomsday/*** orgy cult, but the way he talks and reasons to us set off a lot of bells in head.


i've heard a few stories where a son or a daughter just "disappeared" and went into these fellowships/cults. Now, if my cousin was an adult, i would just leave him be; he's a college sophomore, and i feel it's an age where kids can still be brainwashed. Which i think is what is happening(or has happened) now.


i know that ultimately, the decision lies with him on which path in life to choose...but i suspect there is some other influence in play. i'm consider myself a Catholic, and i believe people have a choice to their faith...i but also believe that that choice should be a personal one, not just because someone in a fancy suit told you so.

So...how do i go about it? Obviously the out-in-the-open tongue-lashing from my aunts and uncles didn't work...what else can i try?
Thanks

Christian Fellowship in its true form is not a cult. A cult is a cult period.

Ano ba ang pangalan ng grupong yan?

[badkuk]

thanks to all that replied.

it's some "fellowship" called CMG; none of my relatives seem to know much more aside from that. So far wala pa naman nakikitang major red flags. Ung pinsan ko kasing yan, isn't really the type na madaling mauto; maldito yan, and he's not the follow-the-herd-to-the-butchershop kind of guy.

Since joining, he's stopped drinking(no binging, just casual experimenting), playing cards(me sa-demonyo daw yun; pati poker hindi pwede), even going out at nights. We should be happy about that, but there's just something very unnatural about that when you know ung dati niyang ugali. He also tends to include the phrase "sabi sa Bible", bawal ito, bawal yan. In one heated argument me sinabi pa siya na "kung alam niyo lang yung nakasulat sa Bible) -- which just goes to show how little he knows about my uncle's and aunt's faith.

That sort of self-righteous b.s. just doesn't sit well with me; ewan ko lang if it's brought about by "brainswashing", or just plain naivety.

There was also one time when the "fellowship" asked for donations, e binigay ng uncle ko is 200 pesos...me minimum daw na 500 pesos donation. Son of a b....

[robot.sonic]

There was also one time when the "fellowship" asked for donations, e binigay ng uncle ko is 200 pesos...me minimum daw na 500 pesos donation. Son of a b....

sabihan mo na wala na sa bible yan.

[uls]

diba 10% ng income sabi sa Bible (tama ba?)

kaya tawag nila ika-pu

[CoDer]

thanks to all that replied.

it's some "fellowship" called CMG; none of my relatives seem to know much more aside from that. So far wala pa naman nakikitang major red flags. Ung pinsan ko kasing yan, isn't really the type na madaling mauto; maldito yan, and he's not the follow-the-herd-to-the-butchershop kind of guy.

Since joining, he's stopped drinking(no binging, just casual experimenting), playing cards(me sa-demonyo daw yun; pati poker hindi pwede), even going out at nights. We should be happy about that, but there's just something very unnatural about that when you know ung dati niyang ugali. He also tends to include the phrase "sabi sa Bible", bawal ito, bawal yan. In one heated argument me sinabi pa siya na "kung alam niyo lang yung nakasulat sa Bible) -- which just goes to show how little he knows about my uncle's and aunt's faith.

That sort of self-righteous b.s. just doesn't sit well with me; ewan ko lang if it's brought about by "brainswashing", or just plain naivety.

There was also one time when the "fellowship" asked for donations, e binigay ng uncle ko is 200 pesos...me minimum daw na 500 pesos donation. Son of a b....

I don't see any reason to "deprogram" your cousin. It turns out na maganda ang nangyayari sa kanya ngayon. Bagong convert nga lang kaya mainit-init pa.

I assure you my wife is getting the same treatment from her catholic relatives after she got born again.

Though that minimum donation is something that worries me. In the circle we call it Love Gift, meaning kahit magkano as long as bukal sa loob. Lipat na lang sana sya ng ibang Evangelical Christian Group.

[cast_no_shadow]

diba 10% ng income sabi sa Bible (tama ba?)

kaya tawag nila ika-pu

sabe ni eli soriano hindi na daw dapat magbigay ng ikapu?..
my colleague is a christian, she religiously follows that 10% from every compensation na nakukuha niya.. one time nagbigay ng 6 digit bonus sa office she really gave the 10% i asked her wala bang corruption sa church niyo? its very tempting sa mga leaders pag ganun kalaki ang perang pumapasok sa simbahan..

she just said God is watching us..

[Lucius]

Being too religious makes one really stupid.

This world started without religion, and nobody required the first human beings on earth to contribute 10% of their income.

Oh..kaya siguro namatay kasi hindi nagbibigay ng mga stones na nakukuha nung stone age?

So f**in laughable

[renzo_d10]

I'm not really bothered on what you're cousin is in to. It seems that his participation in the said fellowship helped him to be a better person. More god-fearing, and more health-conscious.

However, the thing that I don't like him is when he's using the phrase - " wala sa bible yan. " or, " sabi sa bible ... " - 'cause I don't find it right to just use the bible as an excuse to something else or even use it in heated arguments.

And the donations that the fellowship is asking for. 500 is too much. Dapat nga voluntary pa 'yan e. That's corruption. And that itself should catch the attention of yours and do something. Maybe, go to one of their meetings and talk directly to whoever is preaching.

[jansky]

well,, if you cant beat , join them..

if it is a christian fellowship

- one to one talk (male to male / female to female )

- bible study (cell group). group is also categorized (yupies or young professonal, students - college, students - high school, couples etc.)



oh also dont get me wrong.. pero wala sa kanila ang mga statue like mama mary etc..


but if what your cousin joined fellowship that prais mama mary (statue) and likes..
better argue with it

because B.A.C does not follow what Roman catholics do

its just another sort of 'pandarambong' ..



but in the end.. " hindi masama ang sumali sa mga religion organization", what the most important is your belief

[mazingerZ]

You said earlier that the cult is The Family International - - > di ba eto yung me commercial ng Family Toothpaste noong 80's? Yung me kantang " mother father brother sister how do you brush your teeth"

[badkuk]

ayun, KMG pala ung name ng "fellowship"

isa pa pala: bawal daw silang kumain ng gamot kung me sakit -- kahit biogesic hindi pwede, 'coz "God will provide" daw. He finally relented after a combination of my aunt's and uncle's personal version of "sermons" and the discomfort brought about by LBM.