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    hi peeps, need some suggestions.

    i hope that for anyone that doesn't agree with what i'm trying to do would be polite enough to reserve judgement; the Good Book did say, judge not, lest you be judged.

    i found out that a cousin of mine is in the process of, or (hopefully not) already in a "christian fellowship" -- note that i added the double quotes since, from what my aunts and uncles have described it to me, sounds like, smells like, and seems like a cult.


    Don't get wrong, i don't think it's a doomsday/*** orgy cult, but the way he talks and reasons to us set off a lot of bells in head.


    i've heard a few stories where a son or a daughter just "disappeared" and went into these fellowships/cults. Now, if my cousin was an adult, i would just leave him be; he's a college sophomore, and i feel it's an age where kids can still be brainwashed. Which i think is what is happening(or has happened) now.


    i know that ultimately, the decision lies with him on which path in life to choose...but i suspect there is some other influence in play. i'm consider myself a Catholic, and i believe people have a choice to their faith...i but also believe that that choice should be a personal one, not just because someone in a fancy suit told you so.

    So...how do i go about it? Obviously the out-in-the-open tongue-lashing from my aunts and uncles didn't work...what else can i try?
    Thanks
    Last edited by badkuk; January 22nd, 2011 at 07:02 PM.

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    Check on to this "Christian fellowship" by visiting their pastor. Check where do they hold their fellowship. If you think that they are really doing some fellowship, hayaan mo siya. It's just a phase. Basta ba di lang ibenta property nya para ibigay sa fellowship, i think he is ok. Tongue lashing...mas lalo lang siyang mapapalayo sa inyo.

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    Best to ask him about what he is doing. Be genuinely interested in what he is doing. Accompany him if you have to. This way, you really know what he is getting into. Best way to judge is to observe what kind of fruit is coming out of his newfound fellowship. Is it good? Or is it bad? If its good, and he turns out to a better person than before, then why stop him?

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    Be with him and talk with him.

    You might discover the reason why he is doing just that. If it makes real sense to you then, accompany him to his fellowship and assess how good it is for his well-being.

    If not, then attempt to talk him out of it, all the time, protecting your bond as cousins.... Maybe, "It's just a stage he's going through,- I think he's just restless for something new...."...

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    Samahan mo para ikaw mismo makita mo kung ano nga, kung yung christian fellowship niya e tipong victory o greenhills christian felowship e ok naman yung mga yun. Pero kung yung pastor e may mahabang balbas at nakaputing daster na may hawak na tungkod e yari nga.

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    knock him hard in the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Pero kung yung pastor e may mahabang balbas at nakaputing daster na may hawak na tungkod e yari nga.
    Good advice! :bwahaha:

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    hi peeps, need some suggestions.

    i hope that for anyone that doesn't agree with what i'm trying to do would be polite enough to reserve judgement; the Good Book did say, judge not, lest you be judged.

    i found out that a cousin of mine is in the process of, or (hopefully not) already in a "christian fellowship" -- note that i added the double quotes since, from what my aunts and uncles have described it to me, sounds like, smells like, and seems like a cult.


    Don't get wrong, i don't think it's a doomsday/*** orgy cult, but the way he talks and reasons to us set off a lot of bells in head.


    i've heard a few stories where a son or a daughter just "disappeared" and went into these fellowships/cults. Now, if my cousin was an adult, i would just leave him be; he's a college sophomore, and i feel it's an age where kids can still be brainwashed. Which i think is what is happening(or has happened) now.


    i know that ultimately, the decision lies with him on which path in life to choose...but i suspect there is some other influence in play. i'm consider myself a Catholic, and i believe people have a choice to their faith...i but also believe that that choice should be a personal one, not just because someone in a fancy suit told you so.

    So...how do i go about it? Obviously the out-in-the-open tongue-lashing from my aunts and uncles didn't work...what else can i try?
    Thanks
    doomsday cult ba yan?

    does your cousin talk about "the end" or "second coming" a lot?

    does your cousin talk about UFOs?

    is it a cult where the leader has *** with all the young female members?

    is it a cult where your cousin is told leave his/her home and live in the cult's compound?

    if the "fellowship" is taking far too much of your cousin's time and having too much influence sa life niya, di na tama yan

    look for signs if the cult is similar to Jim Jones' The People's Temple, David Koresh's Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Pero kung yung pastor e may mahabang balbas at nakaputing daster na may hawak na tungkod e yari nga.

    or with this guy..........



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    ^ Masarap ang mga pulutan niyan...

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    ^is that the guy who ate human brains?

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    Parricide

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    Last edited by CVT; January 24th, 2011 at 01:35 PM.

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    samahan mo pinsan mo on one of their fellowship or bible study, they call this cell group.

    i am catholic and i respect born again christian, for me it is just the same, it is like you are all inside a house, you both open a window for sunshine to come in, the only difference is they open theirs at the bedroom, yours at the living room...

    though catholic, i sometime join bible study, i see nothing wrong in it but i was taken aback by what the pastor had mentioned, those who dont believe in Jesus Christ, those who doesnt embrace Him, will burn in hell, i asked how about the muslim, the buddist they believe on a different savior, he said they will burn in hell, how about the good man, the ancient people who worship the sun and the stone, they dont have knowledge of God yet, burn in hell... sa loob loob ko party sa hell!*#$%%

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    He's your cousin who is almost an adult or is already an adult (ilang taon ba ang mga sophomores 17? 18?) and already knows what's right or wrong for him.

    As long as he's not joining something like a "Branch Davidian" (remember Waco, Texas?) then I suggest let him be and learn his lesson.

    Just tell him straight-up not to preach on you.

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    move him. relocate him sa medyo malayo

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    Honorable Congressman Ecleo

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Honorable Congressman Ecleo
    good example

    yan ang cult leader

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    If they don't do exorcisms and talk in tongues, it's relatively safe.

    I know some fellowships that are charismatic but beneficial as support groups for people who have the "need", but there are also some that are dangerously unstable.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    is it a cult where the leader has *** with all the young female members?
    anong pangalan ng CULT nato? hehehe intresado ako

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    Maybe the cousin is attracted to a more joyful type of worship - Hillsong's "Hear Our Praises":

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxo4cYdihhg"]YouTube - Hillsong - Hear our praises[/ame]

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