Do you still value virginity?

[webmiester]

hahaha so true

The problem exists in almost all fields. Most of us want to become rich but dont want to learn how to... Most of us want Peace but dont want to forgive. Most of us want to go to heaven, but dont want to die.


Most of the things that we Ideally want to have requires some form of sacrifice which often gets blurred because we are afraid, proud, or simply dont stand up for what we believe in.

[emanzano]

Its from Wikipedia: http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire


Sorry, I dont know which part of the bible Voltaire was mentioned in. I cant believe people actually buy what this Voltaire guy says. You might actually be smarter than him.

Yup, he was never mentioned in the bible. Any 12-yr old who's actually read the bible would know that. So you're probably over 12 and you could read, at least we got that out of the way.

actually, what i meant with "people believing in his last words crap" was the way they lay out the context, as if he was being punished by "God". And you buy that crap?

Anyways, there are a lot of reasons why i admire Voltaire. For one, he wasnt a hypocrite and he stood up for what he believed in, even if it meant disagreeing with his bible study mates.

To the mods: Sorry for the OT.

[emanzano]

Well, actually its the guy too that has to think twice about it even more. If the guy says no, there is nothing the girl can do. Our problem is that we are being conditioned to believe that guys are too weak to say "No". Girls who have wanted to do it with me have told me things like "You're weird" or "You must be sick", because I said "No". Masakit sa ego, but I made my choice.

Geez, you religious types with your holier-than-thou attitude...

You only said no to these girls "who wanted to do it with you" because:
1. you simply weren't that into them, i.e., they weren't exactly your type.
2. the circumstances werent conducive to getting it on, i.e., you didnt have money for a hotel, you car windows were untinted, it was her time of the month, etc
3. these girls were "on the job" and you didnt like it cuz you're really after "the chase"
4. you're batting for the other team
5. any combination of the above


Dude, enough of the drivel. You didnt say no because of your high moral standards (anyone remember Jimmy Swaggart?). There's enough BS going around already. Why dont you keep it real for the rest of us, what do you say?

[Mypzi]

I think virginity has been put on a pedestal for too long. I believe that waiting until you're really ready means a lot, but then, there's too much going on in our lives that keeping ourselves from doing that is not really an all or nothing thing anymore.

_____________thoughts:

*I heard some schools actually teach about how to actually use condoms. Mine taught me what the reproductive system is, and what a sanitary napkin was for. The whole ***ual intercourse thing was completely disregarded. I stayed ignorant. And ignorance didn't stop me, it only made me do things without me knowing it.

*Would you say it was possible to devirginize one's self? -At least on the physical level.

*To the parents: how would you (or would you?) keep your kids virgins until the 'right time'?

[webmiester]

I think virginity has been put on a pedestal for too long. I believe that waiting until you're really ready means a lot, but then, there's too much going on in our lives that keeping ourselves from doing that is not really an all or nothing thing anymore.

_____________thoughts:

*I heard some schools actually teach about how to actually use condoms. Mine taught me what the reproductive system is, and what a sanitary napkin was for. The whole ***ual intercourse thing was completely disregarded. I stayed ignorant. And ignorance didn't stop me, it only made me do things without me knowing it.

*Would you say it was possible to devirginize one's self? -At least on the physical level.

*To the parents: how would you (or would you?) keep your kids virgins until the 'right time'?

It isnt easy for parents and other adults to teach this kind of subject. However, the thing that we most transmit is the thing that we do ourselves. Children can really understand things when we apply them in our daily lives.

[ab_initio]

It isnt easy for parents and other adults to teach this kind of subject. However, the thing that we most transmit is the thing that we do ourselves. Children can really understand things when we apply them in our daily lives.

..VERY TRUE.

HENCE, we should not let go of our ideals, especially during our youth so that when we become parents we can look straight into the eyes of our kids when we want to direct their lives. There were times in my teenage years that i sometimes resented my parents' over protectiveness; now, i am grateful that they were able to control me and direct my life. I am just grateful for the discipline tempered with love, care, and compassion. YOU NEED TO BE CRUEL IN ORDER TO BE KIND. Now, i know what this means.

[karlo4real]

I prefer Brand new..

[ghosthunter]

I prefer Brand new..

Dont count out the value of "experience".

[rion]

It isnt easy for parents and other adults to teach this kind of subject. However, the thing that we most transmit is the thing that we do ourselves. Children can really understand things when we apply them in our daily lives.

I'm no parent but this is what I always hear and observes that is true.

[cutedoc]

the issue of virginity lies within us, for guys its a jackpot to break the cherry, for girls there would be so much anxiety and worry if they give in yet they arent the one yet...

parents must be open and teach their kids the proper way of handling this difficult situation, when a teener step on the age of puberty their body will somehow change and malice will come with this...

its up to the parents on how they can instill in the minds of their kids to value virginity...

however to some it might not be important, to me its still is=)