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    Delays litter long road to vehicle rearview rules - Yahoo! Autos




    Judy Neiman's 2006 Cadillac Escalade didn't have any cameras installed. They weren't added as an optional package until the following model year. Instead, her vehicle was equipped with a "rear parking assist system" — bumper sensors, an alarm and lights that are supposed to go off within 5 feet of objects or people.

    Neither Neiman nor the 10-year-old neighbor boy who had accompanied her and her daughter to the bank on Dec. 8, 2011, would recall hearing any alert, according to a police report.

    Sydnee was carrying her purple plastic piggy bank and account book, so she could deposit $5 from her weekly allowance. After the transaction, Neiman slid behind the wheel and waited for the children. She heard the door slam, then saw the boy sitting on the right side of the back seat as she put the car into reverse.

    She figured Sydnee was seated behind the driver's seat. Instead, the boy had gotten in first, telling Sydnee to go around and get in from the left side. He would later tell a police investigator that the girl had dropped her piggy bank on her way around the SUV.

    Even if she were upright, at 4 feet, 3 inches tall, Sydnee would have been practically invisible through the rear window, the bottom edge of which was a few inches taller than she was.

    As the first anniversary of her daughter's death passed, Neiman hoped that sharing her story might spare other parents from enduring the pain she feels every day.

    She tortures herself by replaying a conversation she had with Sydnee the summer before she died. Her daughter always had taken her heart condition, a congenital defect, in stride. She never complained or showed fear, despite her many surgeries.

    Then one night Sydnee started crying, and she wouldn't tell her mother what was troubling her until the next morning.

    "She said, 'I don't want to die, Mom,' and when she died, that's all I could think about. She didn't want to die," Neiman says. "She survived four open heart surgeries. If God had taken her at that time, I could accept it. But who could take her with her being hit by my car? And my hitting her?"

    This 2010 photo shows Sydnee Neiman on a family trip. She died after her mother accidentally backed over her
    It breaks my heart to read this article of a mother anguishing in pain and guilt for accidentally backing her daughter, taking away her life.
    The safety features did not performed what's its supposed to do, backing up sensors did not worked. Couldn't imagine how much pain this is if it happens to any of us.

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    Moral lesson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Moral lesson?
    Make sure that all the kids are on board and the way is clear before putting the gear on reverse.

    Nakaka init ng ulo tong article na to, yung nanay na lang sana ang nasagasaan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    Make sure that all the kids are on board and the way is clear before putting the gear on reverse.

    Nakaka init ng ulo tong article na to, yung nanay na lang sana ang nasagasaan.
    The kid survived 4 surgeries only to die because her mother failed to check if she was already on board before backing up. I don't know, should the manufacturer be partly liable since the sensors failed to work? How come the sensors missed the kid if she was walking her way around the other side of the SUV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickers View Post
    The kid survived 4 surgeries only to die because her mother failed to check if she was already on board before backing up. I don't know, should the manufacturer be partly liable since the sensors failed to work? How come the sensors missed the kid if she was walking her way around the other side of the SUV.
    how fast was she backing up?

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    Rule of thumb kasi is go around the vehicle every time you are going to reverse. Just to check if may harang sa likod ng car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickers View Post
    The kid survived 4 surgeries only to die because her mother failed to check if she was already on board before backing up. I don't know, should the manufacturer be partly liable since the sensors failed to work? How come the sensors missed the kid if she was walking her way around the other side of the SUV.
    Manufacturer clearly cannot be blamed for her stupidity.

    What kind of parent would put the gear in reverse without checking whether all the kids are on board or the way is clear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    Manufacturer clearly cannot be blamed for her stupidity.

    What kind of parent would put the gear in reverse without checking whether all the kids are on board or the way is clear?
    it could be your kid or anyone else's kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Moral lesson?
    Madalas, katangahan ng driver.

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    Seriously ... it's the responsibility of the driver to check and double check if all the passengers are onboard specially the kids...

    Whatever happens wag pairalin ang katamaran mag check ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Moral lesson?
    Always do a visual head count of your passengers before assuming anything else. Never rely on technology 100%. Things like rear sensors and rear cameras will not replace the human element. They are just driver aids, not driver-replacements.

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    A little off topic:

    mahirap talaga sa rear, minsan after checking hindi mo mapansin ng biglang may tumakbong bata sa likuran ng tsikot mo lalo na sa mataong lugar.

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    Tsaka grabe baka naman she floored the gas pedal when she was backing up! Kung no gas applied naman it could have been avoided kasi hahampasin ng bata yun kotse.

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    Its stupidity and her own fault.
    Parents should make sure the kid is in the car and belted before driving off.

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    This is the reason why some manufacturers (local) install hanging panoramic rear view mirrors on their van models.

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    Paano nangyari yan? malaki na yung bata, makakaalis naman siguro yan pag "normal" pag atras mo. or hahampasin ng bata or sisigaw etc...
    malabo yung istorya

    Yan magiging problema pag umaasa sa sensors or whatnot technology. Di na tumitingin.
    IMHO Technology's greatest purpose is to assist us, not do everything for us.

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    I make sure I'm the last one to enter the car. And back up slowly taking note of all your surroundings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceblueyes View Post
    Paano nangyari yan? malaki na yung bata, makakaalis naman siguro yan pag "normal" pag atras mo. or hahampasin ng bata or sisigaw etc...
    malabo yung istorya

    Yan magiging problema pag umaasa sa sensors or whatnot technology. Di na tumitingin.
    IMHO Technology's greatest purpose is to assist us, not do everything for us.
    Dati yung driver namin dahan dahan umaatras sa parking lot ng school, may bata na nagtago pala sa likod ng sasakyan dahil tinataguan yung kalaro. Wala siyang pakialam na umaatras na yung sasakyan nung iharang pa niya yung sarili niya at yumuko. Basta ang focus niya makapagtago sa kalaro. Ayun, nung nagulungan na lang saka sumigaw. I think the kid was already grade 3 and hindi naman school for special children iyon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    Dati yung driver namin dahan dahan umaatras sa parking lot ng school, may bata na nagtago pala sa likod ng sasakyan dahil tinataguan yung kalaro. Wala siyang pakialam na umaatras na yung sasakyan nung iharang pa niya yung sarili niya at yumuko. Basta ang focus niya makapagtago sa kalaro. Ayun, nung nagulungan na lang saka sumigaw. I think the kid was already grade 3 and hindi naman school for special children iyon.
    Dito useful ang back up camera

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    Retz: Kaya nga reverse slowly, dont floor it!

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