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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Pwede kaya ang 3 liters pang flush sa ganito? Abot ba sa minimum line ng dipstick?
    Ang generic template is 1 liter yung difference between yung low and full indicator sa dipstick, and may laman naman yung existing oil filter, so 3 liters should be above the minimum line, BUT mahirap magsabi, kasi iba iba na ang mga makina.

    Kung kulang eh di dagdagan na lang konti from yung bago mo na dala pang change oil (tutal lagi naman ata sobra yung 1 gallon) so you have more than you need, and that will solve the problem na may naiiwan

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    I recently bought 7Li of engine oil from shopee online. I was surprise when i opened up the package it has oil all over the box so immediately I check all bottles and surprisingly all bottles were sealed properly and no spill coming for the bottles. So how come it has oil all over the box and bubble wrap? I chat with the supplier and they told me their items are all brand new and sealed. I was thinking probably they repack the oil? but it is sealed hmm......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    I recently bought 7Li of engine oil from shopee online. I was surprise when i opened up the package it has oil all over the box so immediately I check all bottles and surprisingly all bottles were sealed properly and no spill coming for the bottles. So how come it has oil all over the box and bubble wrap? I chat with the supplier and they told me their items are all brand new and sealed. I was thinking probably they repack the oil? but it is sealed hmm......
    i am not saying this is the case with yours pero ang hirap nga alamin if ever fake oil nabili mo as in some of them re use the original packageging. kailanagan mo magkatabi both at buksan para malaman minsan

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    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    i am not saying this is the case with yours pero ang hirap nga alamin if ever fake oil nabili mo as in some of them re use the original packageging. kailanagan mo magkatabi both at buksan para malaman minsan
    I bought it from STC Automoto I check their FB page and they look legit that's why I buy from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    i am not saying this is the case with yours pero ang hirap nga alamin if ever fake oil nabili mo as in some of them re use the original packaging. kailanagan mo magkatabi both at buksan para malaman minsan
    Reusing the original containers? Pwede, pero parang ang hirap ata gawin:

    Tipong ganito?

    1.Have people scrounging around/buying from mambobote containers of premium brands- Mitatsu, Eneos, Amsoil, Mobil1, etc.

    2.Have people cleaning/refurb. these used containers para hindi halatang galing sa basura;

    3.Refill container from drum of cheap 20W-40 CD/SF;

    4.Pass off the products as “genuine” Mitatsu 0W-20, etc.

    Problems:

    1. How do you ensure a steady sufficient supply of used containers to sustain operation (para makabuo kahit na 1 box of 1 liter bottles, for example)? Sigurado ako, even if you scour MM daily, hindi consistent ang mabibigay sa iyo (iba iba, gallon, 1 liter etc., and iba ibang brands) (hindi yan bote ng patis etc. na standard etc.) Baka matagal bago ka makaipon ng enough of the same size & brand containers

    2. Ang hirap/tagal linisin (labor intensive) yung mga containers etc to a level na mukang brand new (walang mantsa yung label etc.-remember galing sa basura ito) More likely, mahahalata ng bibili na nilinis lang.

    Given all that needs to be done & yung problems mentioned, I don’t think one can do this on a scale/volume enough to make it profitable.

    One would do all that para makabenta lang ng say, 2-3 boxes per month of fake oil? (and remember, hindi naman lagi may bumibili) Magkano lang kikitain dun, given all the hassle involved? Baka malaki pa expense/effort for chump change lang...

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    "Reusing the original containers? Pwede, pero parang ang hirap ata gawin"

    I think it can be done pero maliit nga lang talaga ang scale, but it's worth it if it's "properly outsourced".

    If you happen to be on the way back to Manila from Tagaytay, try to pull down your windows before you cross the Sta Rosa NB toll exit to Sta Rosa SB toll exit. At that crossing you will see informal settlers to your right before you cross the bridge. Mapapansin mo mabango ang paligid, if you're lucky, you might even see bottles of Cetaphil displayed on shelves from makeshift houses. Why would anyone display an expensive item in a makeshift setting and a crossing at that? Hmmm..

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    advice from the nissan gt-r engine production leader
    Last edited by baludoy; June 13th, 2023 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post


    advice from the nissan gt-r engine production leader
    summary.
    if you want your engine to last a long long time, i.e., at least 250,000 miles,
    using cheap, regular mineral oil and changing every 3000 miles, is better than using expensive oil and replacing it every 6000 miles.
    and replace oil filter every other oil change.

    replacing engine oil does two things.
    it replenishes the oil additives,
    but more importantly,
    it rids the engine of all those microscopic metal bits that act as sandpaper.

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    This is a car forum after all so I don't think anyone here is justifying extended oil change intervals (like 10,000km) with the use of fully synthetic oil.

    I use fully synthetic, but still follow the recommended 5000km (3000mi) oil change interval. Also replace filter every oil change.

    Aside from the engine itself, there are genuine benefits to using fully synthetic oil:

    1) For vehicles with DPF/GPF, full synthetic oil will have lower SAPS (sulfated ash, phosphorus and sulfur) which will extend intervals between cleaning and prolong the life of the particulate filter. And those DPF/GPFs can get quite expensive.

    2) Mineral oils also tend to have higher phosphorus content and may not comply with more recent standards like ILSAC GF-5, or ACEA C. Using fully synthetic oil can extend the life of the catalytic converter.
    Last edited by Dr.Kamiya; June 14th, 2023 at 12:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    This is a car forum after all so I don't think anyone here is justifying extended oil change intervals (like 10,000km) with the use of fully synthetic oil.

    I use fully synthetic, but still follow the recommended 5000km (3000mi) oil change interval. Also replace filter every oil change.

    Aside from the engine itself, there are genuine benefits to using fully synthetic oil:

    1) For vehicles with DPF/GPF, full synthetic oil will have lower SAPS (sulfated ash, phosphorus and sulfur) which will extend intervals between cleaning and prolong the life of the particulate filter. And those DPF/GPFs can get quite expensive.

    2) Mineral oils also tend to have higher phosphorus content and may not comply with more recent standards like ILSAC GF-5, or ACEA C. Using fully synthetic oil can extend the life of the catalytic converter.
    & synthetics have higher viscosity index. More stable, viscosity varies less as temps change. They are less volatile, too.
    I opt synthetic(preferably ACEA C3) & change at the interval I do mineral. Every 5k kms at most.

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    I don't believed in semi-synthehic oils. It's either mineral or fully synthetic.

    If you have the money then use FS kung wala naman eh di mag mineral ka muna.

    Parang panloloko eh.


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    forever regular oil lang ako changed every 6 months.. kaso ngayon tinanggal na nila.. so Semi na lang pinapalagay ko..

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    I don't believed in semi-synthehic oils. It's either mineral or fully synthetic.

    If you have the money then use FS kung wala naman eh di mag mineral ka muna.

    Parang panloloko eh.


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    May Petron near my old place but I don't know if it's a car care center, pero may service bay sya, 300 din sya back then. So I presume 600 na rin sya as all the talyers around him are 600.

    Kaya nga if I buy oil, filter and crush washer outside mas pag mahal pa sya ng konti sa Honda casa na mineral oil package, because of the labor. Kaso, sa labas, I don't have to wait too much kasi ako na agad.

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