Taxi operators are the most experienced with car maintenance and car troubles...

[yrreg]

Taxi operators are the most experienced with car maintenance and car troubles, we should consult them.

Like for example, how often to change oil and what is the best and cheapest oil to use and also oil filter, and where to get them the oil, oil filter and the service involved.


Do we have taxi operators in this forum?

Please introduce yourselves.



Yrreg

[1D4LV]

hmmmm. i may have to disagree a bit bro.
probably their experiences in maintenance is for their fleet, but then, a taxi driven 24 x 7 is different from a vehicle privately driven, which means, parts and even oils for these vehicles may not be suitable for privately driven vehicles.
imho and not to flame.

[vinj]

I beg to disagree on this as a general observation.

Taxi operators may not be the best to have managing your car service in the same way taxi drivers are the worst people to employ as private drivers.
- A lot of operators will scrimp on service and will look for the cheapest parts to keep the car running for it's expected lifespan. One example is if they were looking for the best and cheapest then i think there would have been more market for stuff like the Baldwin and Fleetguard oil filters which are surprisingly affordable and last longer. Why did LPG taxis become a health concern in the first place? It's because their maintenance habits are not good.
- Taxi drivers (unless they privately own the vehicle) don't care about the vehicle. As long as tumatakbo, okay. That's why you even have taxi drivers fiddling with the engines to run lean because they are trying to max the fuel efficiency, even if this is bad for the engine.

[lowslowbenz]

Duh!

Taxi operators are businessmen, not car aficionados!

[uls]

Taxi operators are the most experienced with car maintenance and car troubles, we should consult them.

Like for example, how often to change oil and what is the best and cheapest oil to use and also oil filter, and where to get them the oil, oil filter and the service involved.


Do we have taxi operators in this forum?

Please introduce yourselves.



Yrreg

Whaaaat?!!!

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[boybi]

Laspag nga lahat ng taxi natin dito, hehehe

[frequenzy]

Taxi operators are the most experienced with car maintenance and car troubles, we should consult them.

Like for example, how often to change oil and what is the best and cheapest oil to use and also oil filter, and where to get them the oil, oil filter and the service involved.


Do we have taxi operators in this forum?

Please introduce yourselves.



Yrreg

medyo may katotohanan din to, kapitbahay kasi namin meron 5 vios na taxis and most of the time sa kanya kami nagtatanong since my vios din kami :-) sa kanya na rin kami nagpapachange oil. bili lang ng oil and filter.

[mda]

medyo may katotohanan din to, kapitbahay kasi namin meron 5 vios na taxis and most of the time sa kanya kami nagtatanong since my vios din kami :-) sa kanya na rin kami nagpapachange oil. bili lang ng oil and filter.

Would never trust a taxi operator with my car.

Taxi operators just need to keep their cars running for the maximum amount of time with minimum cost.

On the other hand, I want to keep my car in top condition.

[uls]

kung pinakamatipid na paraan sa pag maintain ng car pwede ka magtanong sa taxi operator

mga piesa na kailangan na palitan sasabihin sayo pwede pa yan hehe

[yrreg]

Originally Posted by frequenzy
medyo may katotohanan din to, kapitbahay kasi namin meron 5 vios na taxis and most of the time sa kanya kami nagtatanong since my vios din kami :-) sa kanya na rin kami nagpapachange oil. bili lang ng oil and filter.

Would never trust a taxi operator with my car.

Taxi operators just need to keep their cars running for the maximum amount of time with minimum cost.

On the other hand, I want to keep my car in top condition.

Well, of course, you and I and every car owner-user want to keep our car in top condition.

Now, the way I see it, I will know that my car is in top condition when I succeed in getting the longest hours of trouble-free service from it, while I am saving the most money and labor and time in its maintenance and repair.

I am sure taxi owners-operators intend and do succeed in making the most money from their cars: by on the one hand keeping their cars on the road the longest hours in total time, and by on the other hand spending the least in money, labor, and time in the maintenance and repair of their cars.

So, it is logical that I should consult them as regards how to save the most money, labor, and time in order to get the longest hours of service from my car.


Consider these equations:

Top condition of a car = the car's longest hours on the road for the least investment in money, labor, and time.

Most money earned by taxi owners-operators = their cars running longest hours on the road on the least investment in money, labor, and time for the cars' maintenance and repair.

Therefore: to achieve the top condition of my car = to ask taxi owners-operators for advice on how to save on money, labor, and time in the car's maintenance and repair to keep it the longest hours on the road in total time.


Hello, do we have any taxi owners-operators in this forum?





Cheers.

Yrreg

[niky]

This is a proof of durability of taxi vehicle like adventure and vios.

Yeah. The Vioses that overheat due to poor maintenance, hot traffic and inadequate cooling.

Therefore: to achieve the top condition of my car = to ask taxi owners-operators for advice on how to save on money, labor, and time in the car's maintenance and repair to keep it the longest hours on the road in total time.

Uh... have you ever talked to any taxi operators?

Taxi operators treat taxis as disposable items. That's why the boundary is so high, they need to recoup their investment before they dispose of their cars. And to keep the boundaries high, they cheap out on everything. Cheap oil. Cheap filter. Cheap suspension parts (sisirain naman ng driver, so why bother?).

Bahala na si Batman sa pintura at rustproofing. By the time the taxi is five years old, mga 200,000 kms nang tinakbo... wala na siyang silbi, may kalawang o hindi. Hindi rin kailangan alagaan masyado ang makina at transmission. Problema na ng next owner yun.

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Same for many company fleet operators. Cheapskates. Walang pakialam sa kotse. After five years, considered zero value na yun. Disposed. Kahit mga ibang car companies diyan, yung service units nila mukhang basura.

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If you want to ask advice about maintenance, go to a high-end car rental. They need their cars to last and to stay in tip-top shape, so they're willing to spend more on maintenance.

[yrreg]

Yeah. The Vioses that overheat due to poor maintenance, hot traffic and inadequate cooling.



Uh... have you ever talked to any taxi operators?

Taxi operators treat taxis as disposable items. That's why the boundary is so high, they need to recoup their investment before they dispose of their cars. And to keep the boundaries high, they cheap out on everything. Cheap oil. Cheap filter. Cheap suspension parts (sisirain naman ng driver, so why bother?).

Bahala na si Batman sa pintura at rustproofing. By the time the taxi is five years old, mga 200,000 kms nang tinakbo... wala na siyang silbi, may kalawang o hindi. Hindi rin kailangan alagaan masyado ang makina at transmission. Problema na ng next owner yun.

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Same for many company fleet operators. Cheapskates. Walang pakialam sa kotse. After five years, considered zero value na yun. Disposed. Kahit mga ibang car companies diyan, yung service units nila mukhang basura.

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If you want to ask advice about maintenance, go to a high-end car rental. They need their cars to last and to stay in tip-top shape, so they're willing to spend more on maintenance.

That is very good, sir -- "If you want to ask advice about maintenance, go to a high-end car rental. They need their cars to last and to stay in tip-top shape, so they're willing to spend more on maintenance."


I am talking about the car engine, though

Perhaps for trouble-shooting car engine or more broadly for a car to get started i.e. the engine is ignited and operating without intermittent dying i.e. going dead, taxi owners-operators could have the most experience and trouble solutions, namely, to get the car engine started and the engine operating all the time until you turn the engine off with the car ignition key.




Cheers.

Yrreg

[vinj]

medyo may katotohanan din to, kapitbahay kasi namin meron 5 vios na taxis and most of the time sa kanya kami nagtatanong since my vios din kami :-) sa kanya na rin kami nagpapachange oil. bili lang ng oil and filter.

So what's his advice to you when it comes to maintaining your Vios? Tips? Service practices, spare parts to use, etc?

Hindi naman kinakahoy yung Vios mo for spare parts? Hehehe (j/k).

A change oil job is pretty straightforward. I sometimes have mine done by a backyard mechanic who also services taxis. He gets my old, used parts from our old Sentra and a Corolla i used to own. Heck even my worn tires he gets them for use in the taxis he services. Kulang nalang ata pati yung 5,000km old oil and oil filter ko, i-reuse ulit. :D

[crazy_boy]

Kulang nalang ata pati yung 5,000km old oil and oil filter ko, i-reuse ulit. :D

kukunin na niya yan soon. baldwin na gamit mo e. after 5000km, sabihin niya malinis pa oil mo hehe

[vinj]

kukunin na niya yan soon. baldwin na gamit mo e. after 5000km, sabihin niya malinis pa oil mo hehe

Gagamitin nila for another 25,000kms. :D

[p_borj]

I agree and disagree at the same time. kung fleet eh malamang hindi nila natututukan yun. pero kung iilan lang, maybe. I previously owned a Lancer taxi. hindi ito 24hours. ang boundary palang noon ay 500 per day nung mga mid 90's. bale around 6am umaalis then 7pm nasa bahay na halos.

frankly ang taxi eh laspag talaga kahit alaga. alaga kasi yun din naman ang kotse naman tuwing weekends (weekdays lang binabyahe).

maintenance wise eh kami ang nagpapa-change oil, sa caltex namin dinadala. mineral oil, oil filter, spark plugs and linis airfilter ang common.

naaalala ko pa, ang dami talagang masisira sa taxi. andun yung madalas maputulan ng clutch cable (not hydraulic type pa kasi yung lancer namin na yun), yung cv joint boots laging mag-crack, mabilis mapundi ang mga ilaw, overheat sa tirik na tirik na araw dahil mahina ang fan or sira ang fuse, yung aircon sumusuko kahit halos kakalinis lang due to magdamag na gamit, alternator pumalya atbp.

iba talaga kapag taxi. like I said, alaga pa iyan ha since taxi and private car siya at the same time. at dahil nga sa taxi namin na iyon, marami akong natutunan pagdating sa kotse. symptoms palang karamihan alam ko na.

pero syempre iba pa rin yung mekaniko ka dahil mas marami pa rin silang alam. experience lang talaga ang magtuturo sa iyo kapag nagka-taxi ka na aalagaan mo.

ibang usapan na yung mga sobrang laspag na taxi hahaha.

[Retz]

napapakamot ako sa ulo dito sa thread na ito ah! it is not like that la.

[miked]

baka naman taxi operator si manong ts at may gusto lang sabihin.....jowkjowkjowk!

[bayen]

i often hear this. while i don't totally agree to it, they may have some good points. common practice and experience would be somewhat a good basis for identifying and diagnosing car troubles, experience i guess would be their no 1 basis for concluding such.

in term of maintenance though, car fanatics have a different approach to it. this speaking from personal experience. i want the best my money can buy for my car but hopefully not cost an arm and a leg for it. best example would be oil filters. baldwin is an awesome filter. less expensive than oem but performs way better. car fanatics have this eye for such things. they dont have to necessarily have to buy the most expensive one to get the best quality.

cab operators, would most likely to select parts based on operational expenses and most likely whatever is most available. business side of things are considered 1st before anything else unless otherwise they are better informed of such things we talk about here in the forums.

[zap.FREEDOM]

imo, bihira lang yung klase ng taxi operator who use quality branded/expensive spare parts for their units, example: sa gulong pa lang, most of them china made tires ang binibili, bakit? mura daw saka pampasada lang naman e, katwiran pa sayo, yang mga gulong parepareho lang naman daw goma yan...kaya bakit kelangan pa daw ng may mga pangalan..like goodyear, bridgestone, michellin, kumho etc...o, gulong pa lang yan..eto pa sparkplug...instead of buying OEM sparkplugs from auto shops/casa, gagawin niyan lilinisin lang then salpak ulit, pagmaganda na ulit o sige takbo na...though yung iba bibili talaga pero ganun pa rin..they pick the cheapest one..negosyo kasi e, ..kulang na nga lang me kotseng lumabas na maintenance-free parang motolite e.