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[Ry_Tower]

Doc,

Im currently using a 5w40 grade diesel specific oil with an API rating of CJ-4....

But according to an engineer I've talked to he said that the 5w40 is "too thin" for the climate here, and might cost some trouble in the long run... also, he said that the more appropriate oil here is in the range of 10w and 15w however, Im still satisfied with the performance Im getting with the 5w40 oil...but Im quite concerned about what he said with regards to it causing me trouble in the long run...

also, as I so much want our both ends to meet, I cannot find a Synthetic diesel oil in the ranges of 10w and 15w
because its either a synthetic one but not diesel specific or the other way around...


So may I know whats your take on that?

It's ok since the 40rating is what is for the climate at star-up in temperate climates. Yung 5 rating naman is for the colder climates. Kaya nga sa mga laging snow covered, dapat 0wXX ang rating AFAIK.

It is not too thin since most multigrade here are even 15w40 eh.

[crazy_boy]

I used in my pick-up the Mobul delvac MX 15w40 with CI-4 rating before. I'm gonna decide whether the Top1 SDO Oil or the Shell Helix Diesel HX7 will be my permanent oil. Shel HX7 is just CF rated but is semi-syn. Same price with Top1 SDO whihc has higher API rating at CI-4. I guess i'll be using either Top1 SDO or Mobil Delvac althought the dlvac is tempting at just P200/ltr vs the P300-304 for Top 1 SDO and Shell Helix Diesel HX7.

Thanks for the links!

use Top1 narin haha!

Our ride is requiring only CD rated oil.

But it is better to use a better oil. Top1 SDO na gamit mo diba? Mukhang mas ok yan due to higher zinc content eh. Same price with Shell Helix Diesel HX7 kasi eh.

Mobil Delvac and Shell Rimula X multigrades naman yung budget oil na maganda rin since CI-4 rated na at widely available pa.

i want to try Elf brand oil sana. i've been reading alot of good reviews kasi. and currently, we are using Elf Trophy DX on our 4D56. mukhang maganda naman yung feedback as per our driver.

[locoroco777]

It's ok since the 40rating is what is for the climate at star-up in temperate climates. Yung 5 rating naman is for the colder climates. Kaya nga sa mga laging snow covered, dapat 0wXX ang rating AFAIK.

It is not too thin since most multigrade here are even 15w40 eh.

pero kasi bro yung tinitingnan daw dapat talaga is yung winter temo eh...

kasi yung bigger value is viscocity lang which is nagbabago din when the temparature changes according to the engr I've talked to...so kung baga lets say yung 30 na value pag nainitan nagiging parang 40 narin daw....so ayun...ehehe nakaka confused din talaga hehe...

I'm reading about oils for a long time now, mostly on the internet, pero nagkakaron ako ng maraming 2nd thoughts when I've talked to someone who is really knowledgeable in this field...hehe

[Ry_Tower]

^ hehe oo nga minsan nakakalito but I do believe safe yung ginagamit natin. Hanap lang natin yung best eh hehehe

*CB, yes baka yan gamitin ko since semi-syn naman at mas mataas yung API C-rating niya which what I want plus yung zinc content nga is above 1,000 ppm as per dvldocs link data.

Kung magtipid mode, mobil delvac MX 15w40 ako. :shy:

[dvldoc]

Newer oils have LESS ZDDP (ZINC) 850ppm or less for CJ-4 and SM oils.

For your diesel you want CI-4, CI-4 Plus and CJ-4

For a ideal of the Mobil Delvac oil with the CI-4 Plus rating is 1700ppm zinc very high

Here's some for Mobile one which list there API and zinc contents.

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 zinc 1200ppm
Advanced full synthetic formula
CJ-4, CI-4,
CI-4 Plus, SM,
SL



Mobil delvac MX 15w40 (Now that's some good oil) zinc content is over 1000ppm

API CI-4, CH-4, CF, SL, SJ

[crazy_boy]

^ hehe oo nga minsan nakakalito but I do believe safe yung ginagamit natin. Hanap lang natin yung best eh hehehe

*CB, yes baka yan gamitin ko since semi-syn naman at mas mataas yung API C-rating niya which what I want plus yung zinc content nga is above 1,000 ppm as per dvldocs link data.

Kung magtipid mode, mobil delvac MX 15w40 ako. :shy:

does your rig have EGR? CI-4 yata minimum requirement ng rigs with EGR.

[locoroco777]

Newer oils have LESS ZDDP (ZINC) 850ppm or less for CJ-4 and SM oils.

For your diesel you want CI-4, CI-4 Plus and CJ-4

For a ideal of the Mobil Delvac oil with the CI-4 Plus rating is 1700ppm zinc very high

Here's some for Mobile one which list there API and zinc contents.

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 zinc 1200ppm
Advanced full synthetic formula
CJ-4, CI-4,
CI-4 Plus, SM,
SL



Mobil delvac MX 15w40 (Now that's some good oil) zinc content is over 1000ppm

API CI-4, CH-4, CF, SL, SJ

so which is more important doc? the molybdenum(high concentration in motul) content or the zinc content which is present in mobil1 TDT?

He is semi wrong about it being to thin it's still 40 weight oil the 5w means nothing in your climate it is only for cold weather. Many people use this oil weight year around in the states. Ford state they CJ-4 is recommended if you run 5W-40 up to 100F, which you can also do with CI-4 and CI-4 plus

Mobil 1 Turbo
Diesel Truck 5W-40 http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf

You also have AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-40 Premium Diesel Oil, which is CJ-4


Mobil Delvac 1 5w40,
Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 5W-40,
"Valvoline Premium Extreme Full Synthetic Diesel" 5w40,
Motorcraft® SAE 5W-40 Full Synthetic Diesel Motor Oil,
Rotella T6 5w40,

All of these can be used year around in any climate. They all still hold their viscosity in the hotter climates. And it get way hotter in the US than it does in the Philippines in many places in the summer. Ever cook a egg on cement you can do it where I live right now.

now thats comforting to know!

I'll mention it the next time we talk...hehe...especially the cooking of the egg in a pavement...

so my readings before isn't worthless at all....:bwahaha:

even the mechanics in the dealership service are even threatening me that my warranty will be expired if I use the 5w40 because its only used in colder climates according to them hehe....this had me laughing really, because I was about to say that how come its being used in the middle east? I only stopped myself from saying it to not start an argument haha....

thanks a lot for the infos doc!

[Wh1stl3r]

*dvldoc
I know what you mean re: heat wave there, my aunt in Chicago can't even get out of the house as its too hot. Heat wave in the windy city. Funny thing how she couldn't visit here because her skin can't take the heat. Now the heat's visited her.

*locorocco
I'm curious to know if Motul is better than Delvac/TDT as well. Super lubricant daw kasi yang moly. A friend said his truck runs smoother with Motul than with Mobil 1 TDT. Ako naman I've noticed the engine temperature is a bit hotter going from a mineral to a synthetic. (Mobil Delvac MX 15w-40 to Royal Purple 15w-40)

What do you think doc? Any experience with Motul?

[locoroco777]

^oo nga bro eh....pero nung galing ako motul then switch sa TDT ang pakiramdam ko naman is parang tumipid ang consumption nya... and everything else is the same naman hehe...

[dvldoc]

Royal purple 15w-40 Specs are
Iron 2
Tin 1
Alum 3
Silicon 1
Potassium 1
Moly 117
Boron 1
Calcium 2961
MG 22
Phosphorus 1126
Zinc 1213
Vis*100C 15 (SAE 40)

I don't have any specs on the Motul diesel oil but its good oil. they are so close to Mobil delvac it would be like saying what bottle color do you like better.

Here are a few more API ratings for Motul oils http://japanesemotorsport.myshopify....ns/engine-oils

For diesel engines, Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck:

* Meets CJ-4, CI-4, and CH-4
* Is recommended for diesel-powered pickup trucks built by Ford, General Motors, GMC and Dodge.
* Meets diesel engine requirements of Cummins, Powerstroke, Duramax and Navistar.

Here is a good listing of oils and there various zinc contents and API ratings.. As you know excel does not show up well on forums.

Name/Vis/P(ppm)/Zn(ppm)/B(ppm)/Detergents(ppm)/API/Date/Type/Source

Castrol Act Evo 20w50 765 1126 1724 SG 05/06 DINO Staveley
Castrol GPS 4STK MC2 20w50 767 1133 1544 SG 05/06 SYN Staveley
Castrol GTX 20w50 1157 1422 1848 SM 11/05 DINO Staveley
Castrol GTX High Mile 20w50 1248 1382 1848 SM 06/06 DINO Staveley
Castrol Syntec 5w40 786 918 1979 SL 09/06 SYN Blackstone
Castrol Syntec 5w50 921 914 58 2628 SM 11/05 SYN Staveley
Castrol Syntec Blend 20w50 937 916 1197 SM 03/07 SEMI Staveley
Castrol Tection Extra 15w40 965 1094 46 2461 CI-4 3/07 DINO Blackstone
Castrol TWS 10w60 425 1294 111 2383 SJ 06/06 SYN Staveley
Chevron Delo 400 15w40 1191 1622 3668 CI-4 06/06 DINO Staveley
Delvac 1 5w40 1390 1803 76 2583 CI-4 11/05 SYN Staveley
Delvac 1300 Super 15w40 1380 1702 78 2388 CI-4 11/05 DINO Staveley
Elf 505.01 VW 5w40 584 1092 2691 SL 05/06 SYN Staveley
Mobil 1 0w40 761 876 167 2630 SM 03/07 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 0w40 796 907 178 2650 SM 03/07 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 0w40 808 976 185 3256 SL 04/03 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 0w40 706 834 148 2246 SM 02/05 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 15w50 952 1030 41 2175 SM 03/07 SYN Staveley
Mobil 1 EP 15w50 1193 1376 228 2970 SL 04/07 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 EP 15w50 1062 1279 79 2485 SM 04/07 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 EP 15w50 906 1024 72 2071 SM 01/06 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 EP 15w50 1315 1428 226 2593 SL 11/05 SYN Staveley
Mobil 1 mx4t 10w40 1277 1460 188 2025 SG 03/07 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 mx4t 10w40 1411 1623 188 2248 SG 04/07 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 R 0w30 1399 1536 178 3051 SG 02/04 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 Super Syn 15w50 1343 1390 205 2601 SL 11/05 SYN Staveley
Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 5w40 1034 1247 51 2826 CI-4 04/07 SYN Blackstone
Mobil 1 V Twin 20w50 1329 1949 204 2130 SG 11/05 SYN Staveley
Mobil 5k Clean 10w40 660 1028 2895 SM 06/06 DINO Staveley
Mobil High Mile 10w40 527 1021 2844 SM 06/06 DINO Staveley
Motul 300V Competition 5w40 1317 1409 19 3273 SH 04/05 SYN Blackstone
Motul 300V Competition 15w50 1139 1130 20 2410 SH 05/05 SYN Blackstone
Motul 505.01 VW 5w40 973 1226 2830 SL 05/06 SYN Staveley
Motul Competition 15w50 1148 1327 11 2723 SH 05/06 SYN Staveley
Motul Tekma Mega 15w40 1220 1737 145 3469 CI-4 05/06 DINO Stavel
Rotella 15w40 843 946 26 1881 CJ-4 03/07 DINO Blackstone
Rotella 15w40 996 1130 32 2054 CJ-4 04/07 DINO Staveley
Rotella 15w40 1278 1555 2946 CI-4 11/05 DINO Staveley
Rotella 5w40 1397 1552 2921 CI-4 11/05 SYN Staveley
Royal Purple 20w50 668 763 2034 SJ 02/07 SYN Blackstone
Royal Purple 20w50 1290 1337 3295 SJ 11/05 SYN Staveley
Royal Purple Max Cycle 10w40 4085 1222 2599 SJ 07/05 SYN Blackstone
Royal Purple Max Cycle 20w50 3179 1030 2142 SJ 04/07 SYN Blackstone
Royal Purple Max Cycle 20w50 3907 1458 2478 SJ 11/05 SYN Staveley
Royal Purple Racing 51 20w50 1285 1417 2639 SJ 11/05 SYN Staveley
Royal Purple XPR 10w40 1034 1741 2709 SJ 12/06 SYN Blackstone
Valvoline All Fleet Plus 15w40 1110 1232 3559 CI-4 10/06 DINO Staveley
Valvoline Durablend 20w50 566 732 13 2606 SM 06/06 SEMI Staveley
Valvoline Max Life 20w50 691 879 17 2170 SM 11/05 DINO Staveley
Valvoline Prem. Blue 15w40 1314 1838 158 4329 CI-4 06/06 DINO Staveley
Valvoline Synpower 20w50 605 689 1786 SM 03/07 SYN Blackstone
Valvoline VR1 20w50 1085 1293 17 2242 SL 11/05 DINO Staveley
Valvoline VR-1 NSL 20w50 835 976 10 819 SL 03/07 DINO Blackstone
Valvoline VR-1 NSL 20w50 842 962 11 838 SL 03/07 SYN Blackstone

[dvldoc]

so which is more important doc? the molybdenum(high concentration in motul) content or the zinc content which is present in mobil1 TDT?




now thats comforting to know!

I'll mention it the next time we talk...hehe...especially the cooking of the egg in a pavement...

so my readings before isn't worthless at all....:bwahaha:

even the mechanics in the dealership service are even threatening me that my warranty will be expired if I use the 5w40 because its only used in colder climates according to them hehe....this had me laughing really, because I was about to say that how come its being used in the middle east? I only stopped myself from saying it to not start an argument haha....

thanks a lot for the infos doc!

ZDDP/ZINC is more important than moly,