oil change for first 1000 KM

[stroker_200]

Guys,

Gusto ko lang makuha opinion nyo.

My REVO SR (gas) is due for the first 1000KM checkup, so magpapalit na ako ng langis. Balak ko sana eh mineral based, para mas mura, at para mas madalas ako magpalit. Pero isang option na na-suggest nung service advisor eh to use synthetic oil (Mobil gamit nila). Every 10K na ang change oil interval pag synth, at saka titipid daw gas consumption ko. Napa-isip tuloy ako kung worth it ba talaga na mag synthetic.

Sa estimate ko, it will take me 6 months to travel 5000Km. So kung mineral, mukhang oks lang ang 6months change oil interval. Kung synth naman, eh di 12 months change oil interval ko. Ok pa ba ito?

Is it worth it na mag-synthetic oil for Revo? Your thoughts will be appreciated here. Normal city driving lang ang use; office - bahay lang route; 2 people lang regular na sakay, and mga 7 people during weekends.

thanks.

[boybi]

ang pag change oil kasi, every 5000kms or 3 months, whichever comes first. masyadong matagal ang 12months na oil change, kahit na synthetic pa yan. every 6 months using synth oil pwede pa.

[pissword]

uhhmm ako sa commonwealth ako buy and change oil.. dunno anung oil gamit nila... synth un gamit ko pag palit sa 1K, then nung last saturday lang sa 5K synth ulit.. bale synth oil gamit ko pero every 5K pa rin ako change oil d ba practical?

[roydok]

Yan din ang suggestion ng Mitsubishi service advisor sa akin minsan. It just involves oil filter replacement every 5k and add ng kaunti oil. Oil change will occur every 10k. Let's wait for the experiences of other tsikoteers.

[OTEP]

I suggest staying with mineral. Medyo hindi pabor ang cost difference vs. benefits kung gagamit ka ng synthetic. Fully realized lang ang benefits ng synth if you run your engine real long and real hard.

Sa ibang markets, they still recommend you change your oil at the manufacturer's interval be it synth or not kasi nga, napupuno pa din ito ng contaminants (which is the reason why oil has to be changed). Sa Pilipinas ko nga lang narinig yung humahaba ang interval after switching to synth.

[pissword]

ahh sir OTEP.... dba un driving condition sa pinas is included under harsh ba na driving condition? kaya dapat pa rin ata every 5K ang palit kahit na synth un gamit. 2500 nga gastos nito every interval eh wala naman ako magagawa eh ganun ang singil ng kasa sa synth uhhmm and ayaw ko naman sa labas kasi bago pa under warranty

[Ungas]

pissword::: Nakapasok ka ba sa loob ng serivce bay area? Did you see the servicemen put the oils in the engine?

[OTEP]

Yes, under 'harsh' driving conditions ang conditions dito sa atin. But a good mineral-based oil can take it. Yes, you may get some benefits from synthetic, but the cost difference is still not justifiable (at least by my wallet's standard).

Synthetic oils will keep their lubricating properties longer. But the primary reason we change the oil is not because the oil has 'broken down'. Rather it is because there are already contaminants suspended in the oil (because of the cleaning effect of the oil). That's why changing oil every 5k kms is better for me because I get to throw out the contaminants more often. And since mineral oil does not lose its lubricating properties in the span of 5K kms, I just use mineral. Tipid pa.

[pissword]

si UNGAS: hindi eh.. bawal naman pumasok sa service bay area..y? i trust the casa nalang basta tinitingnan ko nalang un oil after iba naman kulay pag matagal na eh, pagbago parang bagong mantika hehe even when they replaced my brakepads din nung last sat d ko rin nakita eh

sir OTEP: ahhh ok.. so ok lang pala kahit mineral, kahit in the long run wala naman prob if mineral lagi basta change oil lang lagi noh??

[boybi]

for gas engines, the best mineral based oil available locally i think is Caltex Energy.

[OTEP]

pissword,

Check your manual. Some new cars kasi require synthetic. Always follow the manufacturers recommendation (or use better oils). If the manual says mineral is ok, then use mineral na lang. Para hindi sayang pera. Pwedeng pang-kain or pang-gimik na lang. hehehe.

And remember that the manufacturer is usually more correct than the dealer.

[Wolverine]

In my opinion it is more beneficial to change your oil more frequently than it is to use synthetic oil. At the price of synthetic oil, you can almost change your regular oil 3 times. Whhy don't you just change your oil every 3000-4000 kms using the cheaper stuff. The mineral oil will not have lost its lubricity and you will keep the the contaminants at a minimum. Whatever you do, dont listen to the mechanics advice of just changing the filter and adding oil. That is the surest way to create serious carbon deposits in your engine. Mechanics that suggest this should be shot on sight! hehehe!! Seriously though, our environment is full of contaminants and thats what will wear out your internal parts long before the oil loses its effectivity so keep it clean.

By the way, i use mineral oil but I change mine evry 1500-2000 kms because most of my vehicles use is on the trail where it can be very dusty or in competition where the engine is used to its fullest. The vehicle is almost 4 years old and only has 11k kms on it

[pissword]

i'll ask casa nalang kung anu mineral oil nila or i guess i should buy sa labas nalang.. hehe pero dun pa rin pa PM kasi bago pa eh, d ko napansin sa manual, il try to read it tom nga matingnan ko kung pwede ba mineral. baka lang kasi masmaganda pa rin synth in the long run, masprotected ang engine... ride ko pala is '03 RAV 4x2. ang nakasulat naman kasi dun sa PM diary ba un? un pinipirmahan nila. hehe is change every 5K or 3 months so un lang sinusunod ko. bago palang car, kaka 5K pm lang

[boybi]

ako no choice sa patrol, mineral based oil only.

sa trooper naman, synthetic only???

napaka extremes pala nung 2 vehicles.

[OTEP]

Wolverine said it nicely.

Ganyan din ang philosphy ko sa air filters. Just buy the cheapest one and change it more often. hehehe.

Pissword,

Casa will always vouch for synth (and their recommendation for longer intervals). Mas malaki kita nila sa ganun. Kasi you still have to return to have the filters changed every 5K tapos. It only takes 5 mins to swap a filter.

[pissword]

hahaha nakakatawa naman... talaga? pansinin ko nga tong samin, kala ko lahat ng engine pwede both eh.

[jackaroo]

OTEP,
If your engine uses a turbo, there's a higher probability that mineral oil will break down within the 5Tkm interval due to heat. Synth oil protects better at high heat, not only the engine but also the turbo bearings.
Guess there are varied opinions on the cost vs benefits of synth oil so just compare from the various findings on the net.
My P1.10 worth.

[pissword]

ang sinabi lang naman sakin is better engine protection and performance pag synth.. kasi kahit naman mineral or synth ilagay ko pinababalik ako ng every 5K for change oil tlaga.. so un.. chaka its a small price to pay naman compare sa kung masira un engine so better safe than sorry dba kahit napapamahal ng konti... mga 4 times lang naman nagPM in 1 year. and super city driving lang un car gamit hehe

pero gulat ako why 5w-50 nakasulat sa receipt hehe... dapat dba 5w-30 ideal. haayy tnx sobra guys

[stroker_200]

Salamat po sa mga feedback. Gulat ako ang dami kaagad response in the last 8 hours. Galing talaga dito.

I checked the REVO manual and puwede naman mineral oil. According to the dealer, they use Toyota oil which is being supplied by Caltex. Not sure kung anung mga additives ang pinalagay ng Toyota (kung meron man).

So mas maganda talaga ang mas frequent na oil change. I'll go with the mineral based oil and then follow a 5K oil change interval.

Sa car ko eh every 5K din ang change oil; so far 110K KM na siya eh ok na ok pa. So dapat OK lang din for REVO.

[Ungas]

Originally posted by pissword
si UNGAS: hindi eh.. bawal naman pumasok sa service bay area..y? i trust the casa nalang basta tinitingnan ko nalang un oil after iba naman kulay pag matagal na eh, pagbago parang bagong mantika hehe even when they replaced my brakepads din nung last sat d ko rin nakita eh

Natanong ko lang po kung pano mo nalaman na yung full synth oil nga ang inilagay sa loob ng makina. You might not have notice it baka pinagpalit ng mineral based oil? Anyway, I don't want to create something here, just an added thought. :D