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    Hi guys ano sa tingin nyo mangyayari dito

    Hanggang kailan kaya pwede gamitin ang mga newly released na vehicles like Adventures, Crosswind na hindi Euro 4 compliant

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    sapagkakaintinti ko hindi naman magiging problema ang mga non-compliant euro 4 engines. mas mag benefit pa nga kasi wala na iyong suflur component ng old fuels na nakakadumi sa mga singit singit ng makina mo. tapos mababawasan pa ang buga ng makina ng mga nabanggit mong sasakyan

    not really sure about this notion of mine though so i may be proven wrong by the more knowledgeable peeps here

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    Tuloy pa rin, diesel pa rin yan. Mas malinis pa nga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHV View Post
    Hi guys ano sa tingin nyo mangyayari dito

    Hanggang kailan kaya pwede gamitin ang mga newly released na vehicles like Adventures, Crosswind na hindi Euro 4 compliant
    Mahigit isang taon na kong nagamit ng euro4 sa Adventure ko. Wala namang problema. Nawala pa yung maitim na usok

    Sent from my H220 using Tapatalk

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    Unioil diesel sa 14 y/o Crosswind ko no black smoke na tulad ng damaged turbo ng mga mas modelo.

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    matagal pa siguro ito ma phase out

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    euro 4 diesel?? e just bring it on!.....andami naman 2T jan sa tabi tabi.

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    Euro 4 compliance must apply only to brand new engines.

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    While this subject can be very touchy for most people,Chartered Accountant Firms in Pakistan
    my opinion is that there hasto be a middle or common ground that we all can findChartered Accountant Firms in Lahore
    I do appreciate that youve addedrelevant and intelligent commentary here though. Thank you!

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    Kung phase out ang old school diesel engine malamang Phase out lahat ng truck. Bihira lang ang hindi gumagamit ng Isuzu Truck.

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    I bought a brand new crosswind, expecting that it'll serve me in the next 10 years basta sundin lang ang proper maintenance. Durable daw kasi at easy to maintain ang crosswind. may mga 2000 model nga naman na hanggang ngayun eh maayos pa ang takbo.

    Does the Euro4 compliance rule make my selection of the crosswind a bad choice? So ibig sabihin kahit bago lang sya maoobliga akong idispatya sya once that Euro4 compliance rule is implemented??

    Please someone enlighten me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdx View Post
    I bought a brand new crosswind, expecting that it'll serve me in the next 10 years basta sundin lang ang proper maintenance. Durable daw kasi at easy to maintain ang crosswind. may mga 2000 model nga naman na hanggang ngayun eh maayos pa ang takbo.

    Does the Euro4 compliance rule make my selection of the crosswind a bad choice? So ibig sabihin kahit bago lang sya maoobliga akong idispatya sya once that Euro4 compliance rule is implemented??

    Please someone enlighten me....
    Just mix 2T oil with every tank of fuel and you'll be fine. The 2T will help replace the lost lubricity with the lack of sulfur in euro 4 fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdx View Post
    I bought a brand new crosswind, expecting that it'll serve me in the next 10 years basta sundin lang ang proper maintenance. Durable daw kasi at easy to maintain ang crosswind. may mga 2000 model nga naman na hanggang ngayun eh maayos pa ang takbo.

    Does the Euro4 compliance rule make my selection of the crosswind a bad choice? So ibig sabihin kahit bago lang sya maoobliga akong idispatya sya once that Euro4 compliance rule is implemented??

    Please someone enlighten me....
    Right now the mandate is for manufacturing and selling vehicles. Don't worry. I think you will be able to reach your 10-year goal before another mandate for old vehicles is implemented. Also Euro 4 fuels will work fine on your crosswind. No need to put anything on it. The lubrication deficit issue is now a myth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.L.L. View Post
    Just mix 2T oil with every tank of fuel and you'll be fine. The 2T will help replace the lost lubricity with the lack of sulfur in euro 4 fuel.
    Lubricity is the same across the board, whether it's Euro 2 or Euro 4 (or Euro 5 or 6, etc.)

    I mean no offense when I say this.... People that claim 2T helps in Diesels are usually just basing this belief on anecdotal evidence. For example, if the engine seems quieter running on pre-mixed 2T, it's just quite possible that the engine is not making as much power, among other possible reasons.

    Sorry for the OT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Right now the mandate is for manufacturing and selling vehicles. Don't worry. I think you will be able to reach your 10-year goal before another mandate for old vehicles is implemented. Also Euro 4 fuels will work fine on your crosswind. No need to put anything on it. The lubrication deficit issue is now a myth...
    Thanks a lot Mr. Djerms for that.

    When I've read about this Euro4 stuff I felt cheated...hehe
    Bkit kmi binentahan ng Crosswind gayung hindi naman na pala syang pwedeng gamitin in the next couple of years.

    Kasalanan ko na din, kasi di ko niresearch. If i knew about this earlier baka nagInnova na lang ako. Pero so far, sobrang kuntento ako dito sa crosswind. Not until I heard about that Euro4 rule. Buti na lang nilinaw ninyo. (and isa pa hindi na kaya ng budget ko yung Innova, mas mahal sya eh..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Lubricity is the same across the board, whether it's Euro 2 or Euro 4 (or Euro 5 or 6, etc.)

    I mean no offense when I say this.... People that claim 2T helps in Diesels are usually just basing this belief on anecdotal evidence. For example, if the engine seems quieter running on pre-mixed 2T, it's just quite possible that the engine is not making as much power, among other possible reasons.

    Sorry for the OT...
    I'm basing it on my actual use. I tried it with my 4M40. I posted this some years ago here on tsikot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.L.L. View Post
    I'm basing it on my actual use. I tried it with my 4M40. I posted this some years ago here on tsikot.

    As oj88 said. A quieter engine doesn't necessarily mean injectors are more lubricated. Could also mean its making less power.

    I've yet to see a scientific evidence proving 2T as beneficial to a diesel engine. I read a study that it did more harm in the long run tho.

    2T = 2 stroke....

    Better off buying an additive dedicated for diesels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.L.L. View Post
    I'm basing it on my actual use. I tried it with my 4M40. I posted this some years ago here on tsikot.

    There's already a "substantive, peer-reviewed study" that's already been done "that doesn't rely on anecdotal evidence" here.

    I really don't want to go into a debate, which I'm sure will just bring us back to zero. It's a new year! Let's just agree to disagree.

    But on top of the fact that I personally don't believe that 2T oil is helping, I'm also not keen on adding more pollutants to the fuel mix. I feel that having a high quality, pure Diesel fuel in the tank is all you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    There's already a "substantive, peer-reviewed study" that's already been done "that doesn't rely on anecdotal evidence" here.

    I really don't want to go into a debate, which I'm sure will just bring us back to zero. It's a new year! Let's just agree to disagree.

    But on top of the fact that I personally don't believe that 2T oil is helping, I'm also not keen on adding more pollutants to the fuel mix. I feel that having a high quality, pure Diesel fuel in the tank is all you need.
    Amen to this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    There's already a "substantive, peer-reviewed study" that's already been done "that doesn't rely on anecdotal evidence" here.

    I really don't want to go into a debate, which I'm sure will just bring us back to zero. It's a new year! Let's just agree to disagree.

    But on top of the fact that I personally don't believe that 2T oil is helping, I'm also not keen on adding more pollutants to the fuel mix. I feel that having a high quality, pure Diesel fuel in the tank is all you need.



    Thanks sir oj88,this will help a lot to all diesel cars owner

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