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  1. Join Date
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    Hi guys ano sa tingin nyo mangyayari dito

    Hanggang kailan kaya pwede gamitin ang mga newly released na vehicles like Adventures, Crosswind na hindi Euro 4 compliant

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    sapagkakaintinti ko hindi naman magiging problema ang mga non-compliant euro 4 engines. mas mag benefit pa nga kasi wala na iyong suflur component ng old fuels na nakakadumi sa mga singit singit ng makina mo. tapos mababawasan pa ang buga ng makina ng mga nabanggit mong sasakyan

    not really sure about this notion of mine though so i may be proven wrong by the more knowledgeable peeps here

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    Tuloy pa rin, diesel pa rin yan. Mas malinis pa nga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHV View Post
    Hi guys ano sa tingin nyo mangyayari dito

    Hanggang kailan kaya pwede gamitin ang mga newly released na vehicles like Adventures, Crosswind na hindi Euro 4 compliant
    Mahigit isang taon na kong nagamit ng euro4 sa Adventure ko. Wala namang problema. Nawala pa yung maitim na usok

    Sent from my H220 using Tapatalk

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    Unioil diesel sa 14 y/o Crosswind ko no black smoke na tulad ng damaged turbo ng mga mas modelo.

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    matagal pa siguro ito ma phase out

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    #7
    euro 4 diesel?? e just bring it on!.....andami naman 2T jan sa tabi tabi.

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    #8
    Euro 4 compliance must apply only to brand new engines.

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    #9
    Kung phase out ang old school diesel engine malamang Phase out lahat ng truck. Bihira lang ang hindi gumagamit ng Isuzu Truck.

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    I bought a brand new crosswind, expecting that it'll serve me in the next 10 years basta sundin lang ang proper maintenance. Durable daw kasi at easy to maintain ang crosswind. may mga 2000 model nga naman na hanggang ngayun eh maayos pa ang takbo.

    Does the Euro4 compliance rule make my selection of the crosswind a bad choice? So ibig sabihin kahit bago lang sya maoobliga akong idispatya sya once that Euro4 compliance rule is implemented??

    Please someone enlighten me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdx View Post
    I bought a brand new crosswind, expecting that it'll serve me in the next 10 years basta sundin lang ang proper maintenance. Durable daw kasi at easy to maintain ang crosswind. may mga 2000 model nga naman na hanggang ngayun eh maayos pa ang takbo.

    Does the Euro4 compliance rule make my selection of the crosswind a bad choice? So ibig sabihin kahit bago lang sya maoobliga akong idispatya sya once that Euro4 compliance rule is implemented??

    Please someone enlighten me....
    Just mix 2T oil with every tank of fuel and you'll be fine. The 2T will help replace the lost lubricity with the lack of sulfur in euro 4 fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.L.L. View Post
    Just mix 2T oil with every tank of fuel and you'll be fine. The 2T will help replace the lost lubricity with the lack of sulfur in euro 4 fuel.
    Lubricity is the same across the board, whether it's Euro 2 or Euro 4 (or Euro 5 or 6, etc.)

    I mean no offense when I say this.... People that claim 2T helps in Diesels are usually just basing this belief on anecdotal evidence. For example, if the engine seems quieter running on pre-mixed 2T, it's just quite possible that the engine is not making as much power, among other possible reasons.

    Sorry for the OT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Lubricity is the same across the board, whether it's Euro 2 or Euro 4 (or Euro 5 or 6, etc.)

    I mean no offense when I say this.... People that claim 2T helps in Diesels are usually just basing this belief on anecdotal evidence. For example, if the engine seems quieter running on pre-mixed 2T, it's just quite possible that the engine is not making as much power, among other possible reasons.

    Sorry for the OT...
    I'm basing it on my actual use. I tried it with my 4M40. I posted this some years ago here on tsikot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.L.L. View Post
    Just mix 2T oil with every tank of fuel and you'll be fine. The 2T will help replace the lost lubricity with the lack of sulfur in euro 4 fuel.
    tama Sir just add 2T mineral Oil (Shell 2T Decarbonizer the best) to replace the absence of the lubricity we find in Euro2. pra sakin mas ok pa nga compare sa mga bago ngyn na Euro 4 Compliant na. Yung mga Luma hindi sensitive sa Fuel Filter easy to maintain pa. Mas tatahimik yung Engine nyo Sir pag nag lagay kyo 2T Oil in every Full tank. sure yan Sir. Sa Australia naging problema na nila yan Euro 5 na ata sila dun but still they keep old Diesel Engines from 90's just using 2T Oil lang.

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    ^ sa mga conventional diesel fuel injection system lang naman talaga ang recommendation ng mga 2T. di na pupwede sa high pressure supply sytems gaya ng crdi. lalu na't yung study na ginawa e crdi ang ginamit.

    kadalasan nakakalimutan ko na rin magkarga ng 2T. last time na nagkarga ako sa shell e "euro 4" na daw yung mga fuels nila. ewan ko lang. kung euro 4 nga e almost no difference sa power at emission ng kabayo ko.

    actually parang mas gumanda pa nga dahil naeexceed ko na yung usual rpm na naabot ng bawat gear by about 200 rpm. yun ay kung totoong euro 4 na nga yung nasa tanke ng shell. malay natin. maraming kalokohan na alam ang pinoy e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdx View Post
    I bought a brand new crosswind, expecting that it'll serve me in the next 10 years basta sundin lang ang proper maintenance. Durable daw kasi at easy to maintain ang crosswind. may mga 2000 model nga naman na hanggang ngayun eh maayos pa ang takbo.

    Does the Euro4 compliance rule make my selection of the crosswind a bad choice? So ibig sabihin kahit bago lang sya maoobliga akong idispatya sya once that Euro4 compliance rule is implemented??

    Please someone enlighten me....
    Right now the mandate is for manufacturing and selling vehicles. Don't worry. I think you will be able to reach your 10-year goal before another mandate for old vehicles is implemented. Also Euro 4 fuels will work fine on your crosswind. No need to put anything on it. The lubrication deficit issue is now a myth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Right now the mandate is for manufacturing and selling vehicles. Don't worry. I think you will be able to reach your 10-year goal before another mandate for old vehicles is implemented. Also Euro 4 fuels will work fine on your crosswind. No need to put anything on it. The lubrication deficit issue is now a myth...
    Thanks a lot Mr. Djerms for that.

    When I've read about this Euro4 stuff I felt cheated...hehe
    Bkit kmi binentahan ng Crosswind gayung hindi naman na pala syang pwedeng gamitin in the next couple of years.

    Kasalanan ko na din, kasi di ko niresearch. If i knew about this earlier baka nagInnova na lang ako. Pero so far, sobrang kuntento ako dito sa crosswind. Not until I heard about that Euro4 rule. Buti na lang nilinaw ninyo. (and isa pa hindi na kaya ng budget ko yung Innova, mas mahal sya eh..)

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    Ang nakakainit ng ulo yung sa Pasig ASBUWAYA, nakita ko nung isang araw paborito nila L300FB, may isa nga dun bago wala pang plaka pero pinatos parin ng mga hinayupak na yan

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronw123w124 View Post
    Ang nakakainit ng ulo yung sa Pasig ASBUWAYA, nakita ko nung isang araw paborito nila L300FB, may isa nga dun bago wala pang plaka pero pinatos parin ng mga hinayupak na yan
    pasig ASUWAYA yun nasa video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchman View Post
    pasig ASUWAYA yun nasa video.
    Sa Rosario nga yan. Minsan naman nakapwesto sila sa kabilang side naman, yung papuntang Marcos Hiway bago dumating ng South Supermarket, mismong tapat yun ng office namin kaya pag doon ligtas ang mga truck namin, pati yung mga pipick up o mag dedeliver sa amin ligtas din, nagbudget kasi boss ko para sa mga swapang na yan, parang 1k/month yata kung di ako nagkakamali

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