Need advice on 4d56 engine: swap to surplus or overhaul?

[usokpower]

Im driving a 96 mitsubishi L200 and the engine is emitting white smoke whenever you take out the oil dipstick or oil cap.

So i need anyone's advice here on your experience swapping an engine or overhaul. Which is better in terms of lifespan and reliability? What are the pros and cons? Thanks

[mokong22]

Overhaul mo na lang basta sa trusted mechanik mo dalhin. Pag change engine hindi ka rin sigurado baka pinoy surplus makuha mo and papa change engine ka pa sa car registration.

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[dr. d]

i agree with overhaul:
1. you know that the finished product is in good condition;
2. no need to go to LTO for change of engine hassle.

[baludoy]

agree ako sa overhaul

madami na na bihasa sa technicalities ng 4d56 dito sa atin. medyo hanap ka lang ng reputable na mekaniko

[Gian Paulo]

Ano ang mga pinapalitan sa engine overhauling? Sorry for my limited knowledge about engine.

[mokong22]

Ano ang mga pinapalitan sa engine overhauling? Sorry for my limited knowledge about engine.

Kung dukut lang sir piston ring. Valve seals. Gaskets. Pag major overhaul. Pistons. Piston ring. Engine bearing. Liner. gaskets at diko na malala iba

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[jaypee10]

engine swap mo ng 4d56T ganda ng hataw nyan na sipol pa

[GTi]

Depends on what kind of overhaul. Kung top overhaul lang, mura lang. But a general overhaul may sometimes cost more than a surplus 4D56 engine. Good opportunity for a power upgrade too. 😁

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[dr. d]

engine swap mo ng 4d56T ganda ng hataw nyan na sipol pa

but how does one know, that the engine he is getting is in good condition?

[benchman]

but how does one know, that the engine he is getting is in good condition?

yes, it's a gamble,,,hit or miss.
sa 'overhole' na lang ako.

OT: na-miss ko si philsat ah

[ice15]

How much is your budget?

Sometimes, opening an engine for overhaul might be too costly...

Although having your engine changed will mean hassle of LTO documentation + the fact that you're using a used engine from an unknown source.

[shelu]

overhaul.. at least dyan sir, sigurado ka sa quality ng makina mo kasi alam mo kung ano ang nasa loob.. kailangan lang talaga, magaling ang mekaniko mo sir.. if ang plano ninyo ay pangmatagalan, genuine parts na po ang ikabit ninyo. sa surplus po, hit or miss, di nyo po alam paano binugbog ang makinang surplus. my 2 cents po.

[usokpower]

How much is your budget?

Sometimes, opening an engine for overhaul might be too costly...

Although having your engine changed will mean hassle of LTO documentation + the fact that you're using a used engine from an unknown source.

P40k to p50k kaya ng budget ko.

Then overhaul it is. Ang pinaka con ng engine swap is hassle sa lto. Ayoko ng hassle and mukhang mas ok talaga overhaul.

Salmat sa mga inputs ninyong lahat

[mokong22]

Go for oem parts sir pag tight budjet ok din yung PT brand na piston, piston ring and liner. Sa bearing ok yung daido.

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[derfoj]

P40k to p50k kaya ng budget ko.

Then overhaul it is. Ang pinaka con ng engine swap is hassle sa lto. Ayoko ng hassle and mukhang mas ok talaga overhaul.

Salmat sa mga inputs ninyong lahat

Overhauled my 95 Hyundai Grace van with 4BDAS engine (same as 4D56) and finished just today. I find the engine very nice after the overhaul compared to the 22 year old engine then. Breaking it in starting today and injection pump will be retimed next saturday. It took 10 days for all the work from disassembly, machine shop (4 days), buying of spare parts and assembly courtesy of my ever reliable and trusted mechanic friend.

Decided to have it overhauled due to noises coming from the engine and the temperature seems to be on the high side most of the time. Not on the overheating range but constantly on the high side especially when traversing inclines.

Got the van imported from korea around September 2007. Upon opening the engine, we found out that it had been top overhauled once. Now it was totally overhauled after 130K kms and 22 years of engine life.

Expenses in PHP as per below:

1 set Cylinder Head Assembly 4D56 14500
1 set Engine Parts 4D56 15000
1 Lot Machine Shop Works 14500
1 Lot Engine Works (Assembly/Disassembly) 8300
1 pc Crankshaft Pulley 1900
1 set Overhaul Gasket 1800
1 Lot Diesel Oil 972
4 pcs 1 Liter Coolant 600
1 pc Alternator Hose 350
2 pcs Gasket Beta Grey(Gasket/Sealant) 300
1 pc Power Steering Fan Belt 300
1 pc Oil Filter 250
1 pc Power Steering Fluid 150
1 pc Cement Sealant 100
1 Lot Screws 15
Total 59037

Bloody expensive. Hope the engine will last for at least ten years and more.

[huntsman]

Overhauled my 95 Hyundai Grace van with 4BDAS engine (same as 4D56) and finished just today. I find the engine very nice after the overhaul compared to the 22 year old engine then. Breaking it in starting today and injection pump will be retimed next saturday. It took 10 days for all the work from disassembly, machine shop (4 days), buying of spare parts and assembly courtesy of my ever reliable and trusted mechanic friend.

Decided to have it overhauled due to noises coming from the engine and the temperature seems to be on the high side most of the time. Not on the overheating range but constantly on the high side especially when traversing inclines.

Got the van imported from korea around September 2007. Upon opening the engine, we found out that it had been top overhauled once. Now it was totally overhauled after 130K kms and 22 years of engine life.

Expenses in PHP as per below:

1 set Cylinder Head Assembly 4D56 14500
1 set Engine Parts 4D56 15000
1 Lot Machine Shop Works 14500
1 Lot Engine Works (Assembly/Disassembly) 8300
1 pc Crankshaft Pulley 1900
1 set Overhaul Gasket 1800
1 Lot Diesel Oil 972
4 pcs 1 Liter Coolant 600
1 pc Alternator Hose 350
2 pcs Gasket Beta Grey(Gasket/Sealant) 300
1 pc Power Steering Fan Belt 300
1 pc Oil Filter 250
1 pc Power Steering Fluid 150
1 pc Cement Sealant 100
1 Lot Screws 15
Total 59037

Bloody expensive. Hope the engine will last for at least ten years and more.

yung mechanic ko estimates e 52k kasi di pa nabubuksan makina since 2nd owner kami. ang sakit eh so bibili nalang ako ng bagong motor.haha

[mckeinley]

Mas better diagnose muna cguro yung possible problems at long term solutions tapos canvas at compare sa price. .

[halimaw]

I was quoted 60k for overhaul ng 4m40.
Dinala ko kay Boy Romero, inabot lang ng 20+k lahat ng trabaho labor materials.

If ok ang marikina antipolo area, try mo inquire
0916-5827200
Boy Romero
Dati sya Mechanic sa Mitsubishi then Toyota. 20years casa experience. Shop nya sa garage nya kaya reasonable maningil at may tawad pa. Kumpleto sa gamit from obd pati pang baba ng engine.
From regular pms to general engine overhaul pati transmission matic or manual ginagawa nya.

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[trekblazer]

I was quoted 60k for overhaul ng 4m40.
Dinala ko kay Boy Romero, inabot lang ng 20+k lahat ng trabaho labor materials.

If ok ang marikina antipolo area, try mo inquire
0916-5827200
Boy Romero
Dati sya Mechanic sa Mitsubishi then Toyota. 20years casa experience. Shop nya sa garage nya kaya reasonable maningil at may tawad pa. Kumpleto sa gamit from obd pati pang baba ng engine.
From regular pms to general engine overhaul pati transmission matic or manual ginagawa nya.

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Sir top overhaul (Dukot) ba or full overhaul ginawa sa iyo? Ilang araw ginawa?

[JamesD07]

Pa advice ako sir. Newbie po ako sa deisel engine

2008 Captiva po unit ko

Mukhang need overhaul may black smoke na kasi kahit naka idle lng.

Or baka meron ho kayong ma suggest na pwede ko gawin para hindi e overhaul.

Need din po ako advise san maganda mag pa check las pinas Daang Hari po location ko sana yung malapit lng

Salamat po