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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian Bach View Post
    Sirs, need your professional opinion, my ride has a PMS interval of per 5K odo reading, but mine takes about 7-8 months to reach that 5K. I used Regular oil on my last PMS, should I stick to that or use Fully Synthetic oil instead? Medyo matagal ko kasi ma reach yung per 5K sa odometer. Though I use my ride everyday.

    I'm assuming most of your trips are very short. You can stick with mineral oil but I advise you change it every 6 months, mas prone kasi sa sludge at carbon buildup ang mga sasakyan na puro short trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Inovero View Post
    I'm assuming most of your trips are very short. You can stick with mineral oil but I advise you change it every 6 months, mas prone kasi sa sludge at carbon buildup ang mga sasakyan na puro short trips.
    Mga around 25km per day. Alright. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Inovero View Post
    I'm assuming most of your trips are very short. You can stick with mineral oil but I advise you change it every 6 months, mas prone kasi sa sludge at carbon buildup ang mga sasakyan na puro short trips.
    Mga around 25km per day. Alright. Thanks!

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    So hard to backread, I'll just ask tsikot gurus directly. If a vehicle uses synthetic oil, then it should be synthetic all the way? I cannot go back to mineral oil? if the answer is a big NO then i'm good. If I can go back then my next question would be is there a detrimental effect when I switch back to mineral. thanks!,

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanfoglio9mm View Post
    So hard to backread, I'll just ask tsikot gurus directly. If a vehicle uses synthetic oil, then it should be synthetic all the way? I cannot go back to mineral oil? if the answer is a big NO then i'm good. If I can go back then my next question would be is there a detrimental effect when I switch back to mineral. thanks!,
    Answer is in the manual, excerpt from our mine:

    2.5 XT (2011-2013)
    2.0 XT (2014)

    5W-30 synthetic oil is required for optimum engine performance and protection. Conventional oil may be used if synthetic oil is unavailable. If 5W-30 synthetic oil is not available, 5W-30 or 5W-40 conventional oil may be used if replenishment is needed but should be changed to 5W-30 synthetic oil at the next oil change.

    If it says in the manual that conventional oil is ok and your using synthetic right now, then its ok to go back to conventional oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanfoglio9mm View Post
    So hard to backread, I'll just ask tsikot gurus directly. If a vehicle uses synthetic oil, then it should be synthetic all the way? I cannot go back to mineral oil? if the answer is a big NO then i'm good. If I can go back then my next question would be is there a detrimental effect when I switch back to mineral. thanks!,
    Answer is in the manual, excerpt from our mine:

    2.5 XT (2011-2013)
    2.0 XT (2014)

    5W-30 synthetic oil is required for optimum engine performance and protection. Conventional oil may be used if synthetic oil is unavailable. If 5W-30 synthetic oil is not available, 5W-30 or 5W-40 conventional oil may be used if replenishment is needed but should be changed to 5W-30 synthetic oil at the next oil change.

    If it says in the manual that conventional oil is ok and your using synthetic right now, then its ok to go back to conventional oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian Bach View Post
    Sirs, need your professional opinion, my ride has a PMS interval of per 5K odo reading, but mine takes about 7-8 months to reach that 5K. I used Regular oil on my last PMS, should I stick to that or use Fully Synthetic oil instead? Medyo matagal ko kasi ma reach yung per 5K sa odometer. Though I use my ride everyday.
    Use semi synth

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    Oil is relatively cheap, and engines are very expensive.
    The idea is to extend the life of the engine, not the life of the oil.

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    Good point 😊

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Inovero View Post
    Oil is relatively cheap, and engines are very expensive.
    The idea is to extend the life of the engine, not the life of the oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Inovero View Post
    Oil is relatively cheap, and engines are very expensive.
    The idea is to extend the life of the engine, not the life of the oil.
    very well said bro

    i'm actually leaning towards trying out mitasu for my next oil change. tingnan natin kung ayos fully synth nila

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Inovero View Post
    Oil is relatively cheap, and engines are very expensive.
    The idea is to extend the life of the engine, not the life of the oil.
    very well said bro

    i'm actually leaning towards trying out mitasu for my next oil change. tingnan natin kung ayos fully synth nila

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    very well said bro

    i'm actually leaning towards trying out mitasu for my next oil change. tingnan natin kung ayos fully synth nila

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    very well said bro

    i'm actually leaning towards trying out mitasu for my next oil change. tingnan natin kung ayos fully synth nila

    Be sure to get the Gold/Platinum variant, PAO based sya at SN rated pa. Sure na okay yan bro. I heard 2,600 daw ang 5w-40 na platinum. Price is not bad considering the oil's specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    very well said bro

    i'm actually leaning towards trying out mitasu for my next oil change. tingnan natin kung ayos fully synth nila

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    very well said bro

    i'm actually leaning towards trying out mitasu for my next oil change. tingnan natin kung ayos fully synth nila
    Most oils are good. Depende sa maintenance ng owner. oil change interval and age ng engine, coolant maintenance etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Inovero View Post
    Be sure to get the Gold/Platinum variant, PAO based sya at SN rated pa. Sure na okay yan bro. I heard 2,600 daw ang 5w-40 na platinum. Price is not bad considering the oil's specs.
    Grp3 or grp4 base oils dont matter much nowadays. These discussions died years ago in bobistheoilguyforums. Most oils have good additive packages that meet most manufacturer requirements. Simply following recommended oil changes and engine requirements are the common discussion now. New topics now are direct injection engines and fuel dillution and ecoboost stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanfoglio9mm View Post
    So hard to backread, I'll just ask tsikot gurus directly. If a vehicle uses synthetic oil, then it should be synthetic all the way? I cannot go back to mineral oil? if the answer is a big NO then i'm good. If I can go back then my next question would be is there a detrimental effect when I switch back to mineral. thanks!,
    You can go back to mineral oil. But for direct injection engines its better to use synthetic

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    thanks for the replies, bought a 2nd hand unit, 3.0 d4d. it had been loaded with synthetic oil. I'm thinking of going back to mineral because the synthetic costs triple compared to mineral. Don't know if there is any advantage of having the oil changed at 10k kms with synthetic vs 5k kms with mineral. Am thinking dudumi lalo pag pinatagal? not too car savvy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanfoglio9mm View Post
    thanks for the replies, bought a 2nd hand unit, 3.0 d4d. it had been loaded with synthetic oil. I'm thinking of going back to mineral because the synthetic costs triple compared to mineral. Don't know if there is any advantage of having the oil changed at 10k kms with synthetic vs 5k kms with mineral. Am thinking dudumi lalo pag pinatagal? not too car savvy.
    Evaluate your driving pattern first, if your car is used for extra urban stop and go traffic, which is harder on the engine, ill Disregard the 3k,5k or 10k rule, change oil on a time based system, every 3months is a must, if more hi way travel you can go upto 6 months or 3000kms which comes first.

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    thanks sir stockengine and MR_BIG18

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    Trying this out. I hope it's good. Price was P1,700+ for a 4-litre gallon at True Value and P520 for a 1-litre bottle.



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    Trying this out. I hope it's good. Price was P1,700+ for a 4-litre gallon at True Value and P520 for a 1-litre bottle.


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    Yea for cars out of warranty pwede naman mag mineral oil palit every 3 months for diesels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanfoglio9mm View Post
    thanks for the replies, bought a 2nd hand unit, 3.0 d4d. it had been loaded with synthetic oil. I'm thinking of going back to mineral because the synthetic costs triple compared to mineral. Don't know if there is any advantage of having the oil changed at 10k kms with synthetic vs 5k kms with mineral. Am thinking dudumi lalo pag pinatagal? not too car savvy.
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Yea for cars out of warranty pwede naman mag mineral oil palit every 3 months for diesels.
    I used fully synthetic from 15,000kms to 25,000kms. Now, I'm back to mineral oil (Delo Gold) and plan to change oil every 4 months or 3,300kms.

    I've read many schools of thought regarding oil change. Nakakalito din sa dami ng considerations. e.g. oil grade, interval, driving considerations. etc

    Pinasimple ko na lang. Change oil regularly at a relatively short interval compared to what is recommended. I use Delo Gold because it is easy to find and cheap. But might try Shell Rimula kasi mura din sa gas stations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanfoglio9mm View Post
    thanks for the replies, bought a 2nd hand unit, 3.0 d4d. it had been loaded with synthetic oil. I'm thinking of going back to mineral because the synthetic costs triple compared to mineral. Don't know if there is any advantage of having the oil changed at 10k kms with synthetic vs 5k kms with mineral. Am thinking dudumi lalo pag pinatagal? not too car savvy.
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Yea for cars out of warranty pwede naman mag mineral oil palit every 3 months for diesels.
    I used fully synthetic from 15,000kms to 25,000kms. Now, I'm back to mineral oil (Delo Gold) and plan to change oil every 4 months or 3,300kms.

    I've read many schools of thought regarding oil change. Nakakalito din sa dami ng considerations. e.g. oil grade, interval, driving considerations. etc

    Pinasimple ko na lang. Change oil regularly at a relatively short interval compared to what is recommended. I use Delo Gold because it is easy to find and cheap. But might try Shell Rimula kasi mura din sa gas stations.

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    Having my 15k pms soon. Used zic fully synthetic 5w30 last 10k pms. May natira about 700ml since the 10k pms. Enough na ba ito for "top up".
    Bali replace oil filter nalang ba?

    Thanks

    Btw ito pala yung ginamit kong 5w30 last 10k pms



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    Depende sa oil filter. Some take 500ml. And pag change oil filter, the filter must be primed or filled with oil to prevent oil pump damage.

Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?