LTO Emissions Test & Calibration

**Anton** · January 14th, 2003 10:06 PM

hey guys my terrano is due for registration this month & medyo mausok sya. So my question is where is the best place to have it calibrated (if this is the best remedy, if there are other ways, pls post na rin) and how much would that cost? tnx people :roll:

**Doc Diesel** · January 15th, 2003 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Anton

hey guys my terrano is due for registration this month & medyo mausok sya. So my question is where is the best place to have it calibrated (if this is the best remedy, if there are other ways, pls post na rin) and how much would that cost? tnx people :roll:

Anton,
Since your location indicates that your are from QC, the nearest shop would be Hanson's place.

Costs varies depending on the extent of damage.

Doc Diesel

**InVitro25** · January 15th, 2003 11:42 AM

Doc Diesel, please don't be offended. Magtatanong lang po. Pag po ba nagpa-calibrate sa Betan may guarantee po ba napapasa sa LTO smoke test? Salamat po.

**Doc Diesel** · January 16th, 2003 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by InVitro25

Doc Diesel, please don't be offended. Magtatanong lang po. Pag po ba nagpa-calibrate sa Betan may guarantee po ba napapasa sa LTO smoke test? Salamat po.

Before we carry out repairs in your vehicle. We do basic engine check-ups and diagnosis. Since diesel engine are quite easy to diagnose, we would be able to tell you if you need calibration or not. We do our best to get the jobs done but there are factors which may also hinder in order for us to carry out the repairs.

Even if we've already calibrated your fuel injection system, we do not give guarantees that it will pass since the testing is once crucial part which many people still don't know how to carry out.

A regular poster of this board textd me one day asking if we were accredited. I said "no, not yet. Why? what seems to be the problem?". He goes, this PETC [Private Emission Testing Center] I've gone to doesn't know how to test for emissions. I said, Why so? Well, they floored my accelerator during the tests which would mean that my engine would really smoke, he said. I asked him, do you have a tach where you can read the rpm? He said, no, but i think i felt my engine go beyond the 3.5k rpm level. He added that the stepping was not according to standards since he noticed that they stepped on the accelerator like revving up for a drag race.

How I would love to be a PETC and a calibration shop at the same time but there is again a new rule which DOTC states, any emissions repair shops shall not be allowed / accredited to be a PETC. In short, calibration shops are not allowed to operate as PETC even as an entirely different company setup. People in government are so fickle minded!!

Doc Diesel

**InVitro25** · January 16th, 2003 10:34 AM

Well explained Doc. Now, can you please give us some kind of a procedure or tips to better prepare our diesel vehicles just before doing the emission testing. Will it be necessary to do the every 5,000 km service before the testing? Can we contest the results of this testing centers on what we feel an incorrect procedure? Please enlighten us. Salamat po.

**mojo36** · January 17th, 2003 09:49 AM

Are there any procedures and standards that is available to the public :?: The sad thing is, most of you would agree, this might be another source of corruption for LTO and PETC personnel.

Does the law (Clean Air Act) have anything to prevent corruption in its implementation? This is the big question:?::?:

:cry:

:?

**Doc Diesel** · January 17th, 2003 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by InVitro25

Well explained Doc. Now, can you please give us some kind of a procedure or tips to better prepare our diesel vehicles just before doing the emission testing. Will it be necessary to do the every 5,000 km service before the testing? Can we contest the results of this testing centers on what we feel an incorrect procedure? Please enlighten us. Salamat po.

I strongly suggest the ff:

1. Have a "proper" tune-up.
2. Change filters [oil, fuel and air] if needed. I presume you know how to determine if your filters need changing.
3. Try to wash out with water your tail pipe before going there. Another alternative to this is the "gripo" thing in your exhaust manifold. While at it, try to pound your muffler for the excess carbon to come out.
4. Kung mausok pa rin, have it checked by a reputable calibration workshop. ehem, ehem.

Bring the test procedure with you during the test and observe if they followed what was stated in the guidelines. If not, you can try to report them to DTI at btrcp*dti.gov.ph Make sure to get the details like PETC name, machine used, name of MVECT and PETC owner's name and your test results printed.

Ah teka, a digital cam would be nice. he he

Doc Diesel

**garyq** · January 17th, 2003 09:57 AM

Doc Diesel: Where's your shop?

**Anton** · January 17th, 2003 12:15 PM

Sir, s Hanson's place urs? So im assuming your Hanson? Wers urs shop in qc? Is it ok i drop by for a free diagnosis & estimate (note keyword: FREE :wink: ) Thanks man. I believe my bro, val, had it calibrated na there b4, he left the car with me when he left the country. Baka naka-warranty pa... hehehe

**boybi** · January 17th, 2003 02:52 PM

Betan Calibration po yung kay Doc Diesel.

yung ke Hanson i think is Denso something.

**Anton** · January 17th, 2003 11:34 PM

dude can i get the adress of betan then?

**OTEP** · January 17th, 2003 11:41 PM

Anton,

Hanson is Denso Diesel Services QC sa may Banawe. Yung kay Doc Diesel, tignan mo na lang yung address doon sa "something special" thread. Nakalagay ata doon sa downloadable file (which doubles as a discount coupon).

**Boy2** · January 18th, 2003 12:26 AM

some procedures I learned from Master Boknoy...

1) remove the air filter and have it washed (pressurized) from the inside, and then... (2)wash your tailpipe (do it at your own risk). the last time our driver did that washing of the tailpipe to our Trooper... our catalytic converter got damaged and replaced right away...

according to Master Boknoy, the first procedure really works.

i dont know about the second procedure...

**Revstar** · January 18th, 2003 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Doc Diesel

Bring the test procedure with you during the test and observe if they followed what was stated in the guidelines. If not, you can try to report them to DTI at btrcp*dti.gov.ph Make sure to get the details like PETC name, machine used, name of MVECT and PETC owner's name and your test results printed.

Doc Diesel, where can we get these guidelines?

**Doc Diesel** · January 18th, 2003 09:04 AM

Anton,
Our address is 240 Pablo Ocampo Sr. St. San Antonio Village, Makati City.
Tel. 8992819, look for Mercy or James.

Revstar,
Pls. try to go through the archives as I have posted a link for a downloadable file in PDF format. Subject is test emission guidelines.

Doc Diesel

**mojo36** · January 18th, 2003 10:31 AM

THIS ONE SURE SUCKS!!

A friend of mine registered his car yesterday at LTO Espana (Manila). Guess what??

He paid Php500 to a fixer, ayun wala na testing testing, deretso rehistro na, sa loob na inayos yung papeles.. sheesh

Only in da Philippines!! :x :x :x

There goes our clean air act.. :cry: :cry: :cry:

**roydok** · January 19th, 2003 02:16 AM

Nakakalungkot at may mga taong nandadaya. Sayang lang ang 500 ng friend mo sir mojo36. 300 lang po ang testing. Kung alaga naman ang ride niya ay siguradong papasa ito.

**InVitro25** · January 19th, 2003 03:16 PM

Bakit di natin i-suggest na i-require lahat ng vehicles na dalhin lagi yun certificate of passing the smoke emission test tulad ng OR ng mga license natin para pagmausok ang sasakyan eh malaman at tanggalan ng accreditation yun nagpasang testing center. Bulok na talaga ang taong gobyerno natin. Hopeless na yata.

**Boy2** · January 19th, 2003 08:40 PM

:oops:

parang wala na din mangyayari sa "law" na yan....

**hanson** · January 20th, 2003 01:40 AM

very well said Doc...

it has been a draught for me here in dieselclub. at least ive now recuperated after a nasty try of windows xp. that's one heck of an os. dragged my modem down to as slow as turtle walking in luneta park!

win98 rocks!

guys, the smoke emission test is really a big problem. the worse thing is that there are cases when all has been done yet the smoke is still there. i am quite dumbfounded on situations like these. i pitty the customer for having spent a lot on overhauling the engine and calibrating yet still have the same problems.

after a lot of thinking, i believe that it boils down to the fuel that is being sold in the gasoline stations. just like what we have all talked about in previous threads, we use industrial diesel fuel here and not automotive fuel.

problem is that automotive diesel fuel is expensive. in the states, the cost of auto diesel fuel is equal the cost of unleaded gasoline. but still, we need that to keep our air clean.

i believe we should get together and make a petition to the big 3 oil companies, denr, doe, etc. etc. this is a chance for the dieselclub to take part of more serious matters, right? paging our officers....

clean fuel is everyone's wish. even doc diesel and me would really want that.

if u guys need calibration shops to go to, go to trust worthy shops like doc diesel's and ours. be careful of dropping by one of those small, dirty shops. you might get fooled.

a lot of shops would always say... "sir, kailangan icalibrate kasi mausok"

the common notion of people is calibration when you belch smoke. but it is not always the case. after calibrating, then the story would go.... "sir, di talaga matatanggal ang usok kasi blow by and makina niyo."

wouldn't you feel hurt? so why didn't they say so the first place? it's because they want your money rather than give you a good diagnosis and service.

for your diesel calibration needs...

doc diesel's betan diesel in vito cruz, manila
hanson's denso diesel in banawe, qc

regards,

hanson

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