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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Doing all the I/H/E mods to your 1.3L engine won't really do much beyond make more noise, and maybe increase your fuel consumption.
    that's my worry about my 1.3mt. do you think it could have been better if its a 1.5? btw the vehicle is a new jazz.

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by RC-V View Post
    that's my worry about my 1.3mt. do you think it could have been better if its a 1.5? btw the vehicle is a new jazz.
    well, the Jazz 1.5L would have given you more power (120hp vs 100hp) but since the 1.5L only comes in A/T, you might not "feel" the power difference as much.

    If you want much more power, you can opt for either an engine swap or a turbocharger upgrade on your 1.3L engine. Either option will definitely invalidate the factory warranty on the engine.

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    #13
    if on a budget, go for a zc or d15b na lang. malaking mura siya compared sa b16 na aabutin ka ng 100k siguro.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by flakez View Post
    if on a budget, go for a zc or d15b na lang. malaking mura siya compared sa b16 na aabutin ka ng 100k siguro.
    by the way how much for the d15b swap? whats the difference bet the b16 and the d15? if less expensive ang d15, di po kaya ako magkaproblem in the future? Kulit ko nuh? thanks bros!

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    #15
    kapag may sasakyan kayo huwag nyong iisipin ang sentimental value

    the longer you keep your car the more it depreciates

    sell it now then get a 2nd hand 1.6

    iwas problema pa

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by dirk0616 View Post
    by the way how much for the d15b swap? whats the difference bet the b16 and the d15? if less expensive ang d15, di po kaya ako magkaproblem in the future? Kulit ko nuh? thanks bros!
    hindi ko sure kung magkano eh, pero siguro more or less nasa 50k gastos mo.
    basic difference d15 is sohc, tapos yung b16 naman sohc. mas mataas din power rating ng b16. pero ok naman ung d15 or zc engine, marami din gumagamit nyan though hindi siya kasing lakas ng b16 pero mas malakas ata siya sa ph16 ng vti.

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by dirk0616 View Post
    whats the difference bet the b16 and the d15? if less expensive ang d15, di po kaya ako magkaproblem in the future? thanks bros!
    d15b (sohc) ~130hp
    b16a (dohc) ~160hp to 170hp

    d15b:
    • mas mura, practical at minimal welds lang sa engine bay mo (since halos sakto naman yata ang 1.5 sohc sa city)
    • minimal welds > less hassle, galaw > less risk of engine damping failure
    • mas magaan, kaya ng stock front suspension mo > plus the city's lightweight > pwede na yan, bilis na yan
    • recommended
    b16a:
    • mas mahal plus more welds to your bay
    • more welds > more hassle, galaw > more risk
    • mas bigat, di kaya ng stock front suspension, so you most likely have to upgrade them as well
    • malakas na makina + your stock brakes + your aggressive driving + the unexpected = lam mo na (even the SiR's stock all disc brakes maybe underpowered for it's stock b16a engine)
    • kaw bahala
    I run on jdm d15b sa eg civic sedan, and medyo satisfying naman so far.

    d15b man yan or b16a, kung hindi maganda ang condition ng nakuha mo, magkakaproblema ka pa rin. mas madali nga lang hanapan ng parts and d15b kasi it shares some internals with out local 16 valve honda sohc engines

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    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by isa1023 View Post
    d15b (sohc) ~130hp
    b16a (dohc) ~160hp to 170hp


    d15b:
    • mas mura, practical at minimal welds lang sa engine bay mo (since halos sakto naman yata ang 1.5 sohc sa city)
    • minimal welds > less hassle, galaw > less risk of engine damping failure
    • mas magaan, kaya ng stock front suspension mo > plus the city's lightweight > pwede na yan, bilis na yan
    • recommended
    b16a:
    • mas mahal plus more welds to your bay
    • more welds > more hassle, galaw > more risk
    • mas bigat, di kaya ng stock front suspension, so you most likely have to upgrade them as well
    • malakas na makina + your stock brakes + your aggressive driving + the unexpected = lam mo na (even the SiR's stock all disc brakes maybe underpowered for it's stock b16a engine)
    • kaw bahala
    I run on jdm d15b sa eg civic sedan, and medyo satisfying naman so far.

    d15b man yan or b16a, kung hindi maganda ang condition ng nakuha mo, magkakaproblema ka pa rin. mas madali nga lang hanapan ng parts and d15b kasi it shares some internals with out local 16 valve honda sohc engines

    wow! thanks for the great info sir! taga san pedro ka lang pala... taga villa carolina tunasan lang ako... walking distance... may alam ka ba sir na shop malapit dito satin na makukuhanan at nagiinstall ng d15?

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by dirk0616 View Post
    wow! thanks for the great info sir! taga san pedro ka lang pala... taga villa carolina tunasan lang ako... walking distance... may alam ka ba sir na shop malapit dito satin na makukuhanan at nagiinstall ng d15?
    Try mo muna magcanvass sa Evangelista and Banawe so you'd have comparisons. Sabi dito around 30 to 35k daw yung d15b, ewan ko lang kung ano yung mga kasama at hindi kasama dun..

    Pero if you want na malapit na shop for engine swaps/upgrades, merong nag-iisang installer sa Pacita Avenue. Signal (Speedtool) (iisa yata ang may-ari nito).. Dito ang shop ng Speedtool club na kumakarera ng drag sa south

    *Just to clarify on my previous post, b16a is a relatively powerful engine, and I mentioned it's too powerful for the city's lightweight. To think it comes stock on EF hatch and EG6 hatch na mas maliit nga naman sa City. Pero those cars are well-tuned to hold the power (brakes, suspension etc). In the case of the City (which is tuned more for less abusive driving), main risk for transplanting in a b16a would be engine damping ang other engine bay attachment problems.

    Plus you have to "up" the suspension and brakes.
    eh b16a block pa lang 100K plus na. Suspension at larger front brakes pa. Eh to switch to larger front brakes magupgrade ka din to larger diameter mags (13 lang kasi stock ng City eh) para kumasya.

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    #20
    hmmm.... laki nga naman ng matitipid sa d15 swap compared to the b16... ... For a guy like me who has limited budget? i'll definitely go with your suggestion sir... very informative and helpful mga posts mo... right now magka canvass muna kung san makakmura. ill let y'all know kapag ok na or pag on the process na...maybe posts some pic... pero baka by December pa...haha... thank you thank you talga, i really appreciate it!

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