should there be air coming out from dipstick tube?

[spyghost]

hi,

another noob question here. i pulled out my dipstick to check oil level and i noticed that when i place my finger on top of the dipstick tube, i can feel air coming out. is this normal?

but when i put the dipstick back on, NO air or water comes out of it.

[rion]

yep, normal lang yan. kahit may konting oil, ok lang.

[shadow]

hi,

another noob question here. i pulled out my dipstick to check oil level and i noticed that when i place my finger on top of the dipstick tube, i can feel air coming out. is this normal?

but when i put the dipstick back on, NO air or water comes out of it.

hinde yata normal bro....

kasi kung meron air lumalabas it means bukas engine mo while checking for oil level...so hinde normal yun pag check niyo ng engine oil level whille the engine is running...

[vito corleone]

hinde yata normal bro....

kasi kung meron air lumalabas it means bukas engine mo while checking for oil level...so hinde normal yun pag check niyo ng engine oil level whille the engine is running...

'yan din ang unang naisip ko kahit hindi nabanggit ng ts. . .the engine must be running for you to feel air coming out of the tube. . .you check your oil level when the engine is cold; not when it is running. . .do it in the morning, and make sure that the car is in a level position

[Arvin Cristi]

sir pag medyo excessive yung sinasabi mo na air comng out of the dipstick tube, medyo cause of concern na yun.... you can check by also opening your engine oil filler cap and cover the opening with the palm of your hand, if teh pressure is excessive you will definitely feel it in your palm, also do check if there is a lot of smoke coming out of the filler hole...kasi usually pag ganyan na ang nangyayari candidate na yung makina for engine blow-by.

how old na ba sir yung sasakyan/makina?

[alwayz_yummy]

ok lang kung may hangin....pero kung ma langis na tumitilamsik from there katulad sa kotse ko, loose compression na..

[XTO]

Normal lang na me hangin dahil may movement sa internals pero pag may oil na while idle, mas malakas yan during acceleration. But not that major naman, wait mo na rin ibang senyales like kung nababawasan ang oil in a week, kulay ng usok, FC etc.

[Dieseldude]

A small amount of air will always be present on your dipstick tube or oil filler cap, even on a new engine. This is blow-by or compression gas leaking past the piston rings gaps. Older engines will have larger piston ring gaps due to normal ring and cylinder wear, and will therefore have higher levels of gas leakage.

Blowby can be measured through a manometer while load is appled to the engine on a dynamometer.

[v6dreamer]

ok lang kung may hangin....pero kung ma langis na tumitilamsik from there katulad sa kotse ko, loose compression na..

If oil coming out from the dipstick doesnt mean right away that its a loose compression unless the rings are worn and your getting blow-by which builds pressure and condensation in the crankcase. Then you need to rebuild the engine. You have been rebuild already, so that is good... same as NEW.

Anyway, if oil coming out from your dipstick most problem(with the exemption that I mentioned above) is likely emmision problem. You may have overfill, PCValve stock-up, crankcase breather plugged or no enough vacuum due to worn rubber hose vacuum. Our engine need air and a functional breather to run properly and efficiently, kaya pakiramdam natin ay palyado ang kotse dahil hindi nakakahinga. With all the preasure built in the crankcase of course maraming mangyayari, lahat ay damay damay na lalo na ang bulsa.

[rion]

You may have overfill, PCValve stock-up, crankcase breather plugged or no enough vacuum due to worn rubber hose vacuum. Our engine need air and a functional breather to run properly and efficiently, kaya pakiramdam natin ay palyado ang kotse dahil hindi nakakahinga. With all the preasure built in the crankcase of course maraming mangyayari, lahat ay damay damay na lalo na ang bulsa.

Simota has a Breather to help this PCV pressure buildup. but I read here in tsikot na bawal daw ito sa states among Gasoline vehicles.

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1938

[speedyfix]

don't pull out the dipstick while the engine is running.

[Xt7]

ok lang kung may hangin....pero kung ma langis na tumitilamsik from there katulad sa kotse ko, loose compression na..

ay ganun ba. yung amin (adventure 4d56 diesel) ay kapag hilain dipstick habang naandar ay dami natalsik na oil at may usok pa kapag gina gas.. pati nga yung takip ng makina kung saan nilalagyan ng oil, kapag naandar at binuksan, dami natalsik na oil at usok..

adventure ba namin talagang malala na?? 10 years na kc, without overhaul or dukot, pro change oil lang. minsan nga change oil naabot ng 8 months interval..

[rion]

how's the oil consumption? mausok na ba talaga?

kung hindi pa, wag na lang muna.

overhauls are not 100% perfect job. minsan kasi, palpak ang mga mekaniko. makes you even wish you haven't had it overhauled.

imo lang...

[Xt7]

[QUOTE=rion;1102613]how's the oil consumption? mausok na ba talaga?

bale more than 2 years ng ganun yung case namin (may usok at oil sa takip at dipstick).. AND 2 years na rin kami magsimula kaming mag ayos ng PROPER change oil interval nito, every 5000 kms na..

sa ngayon hindi maaksaya sa oil ang advnture namin.. FUEL consumption nga nito 11-12 kms/liter. pag highway/longtrip nasa 12-13 naman..

nag aalala lang ako sa oil at usok sa takip at dipstick.. sabi ng kaikalala ko na driver e paagapan mo na yan, kahit dukot na lang muna. PERO sabi ng mekaniko namin ok pa naman yan.. hinay hinay lang daw..

[yapoy86]

[quote=Xt7;1102648]

how's the oil consumption? mausok na ba talaga?

bale more than 2 years ng ganun yung case namin (may usok at oil sa takip at dipstick).. AND 2 years na rin kami magsimula kaming mag ayos ng PROPER change oil interval nito, every 5000 kms na..

nag aalala lang ako sa oil at usok sa takip at dipstick.. sabi ng kaikalala ko na driver e paagapan mo na yan, kahit dukot na lang muna. PERO sabi ng mekaniko namin ok pa naman yan.. hinay hinay lang daw..

pasensya na po but i think bobo sa engine yan driver na kakilala mo... if you still have your car user manual PLEASE READ.. it is clearly stated that never open the oil filler cap and oil dipstick whenever the engine is running!!!

as for the air and smoke coming out (especially sa diesel engine noticeable talaga ang smoke) normal yan due to blowby gases (but not to the extent na talagang sobra yung lumalabas na usok) yung oil talagang tatalsik yan due to moving parts, engine pressure and oil mist...

if you will check your dipstick may O-ring yan same with your oil cap may oil gasket to make sure na walang ibang lalabasan yung blowby gases but to the PCV tube... if you open any points, of course dun talaga lalabas yung hangin kasi hindi na sealed yung system...not 100% naman na dun lahat sa PCV pupunta yung blowby gases, so during high revs mataas ang pressure inside the engine kaya minsan may "pawis" ng oil yung sides ng valve cover mo.. pag barado yang pcv or excessive talaga blow by gases mag pop-out yang dipstick mo..

as long as hindi kumakain or nag susunog ng engine oil yang makina mo OK na OK yan at nasa tamang condition.. wag mo pagagalaw kung wala naman sira.. yung nga brandnew carens eh sinubukan ko din buksan yung oil cap while running may oil din na tumatalsik yung nga lang hindi pa maitim kasi bago pa... sa tingin mo need ba padukot yun??? no thanks hahaha

[Xt7]

[QUOTE=yapoy86;1103091][quote=Xt7;1102648]

pasensya na po but i think bobo sa engine yan driver na kakilala mo... if you still have your car user manual PLEASE READ.. it is clearly stated that never open the oil filler cap and oil dipstick whenever the engine is running!!!

as for the air and smoke coming out (especially sa diesel engine noticeable talaga ang smoke) normal yan due to blowby gases (but not to the extent na talagang sobra yung lumalabas na usok) yung oil talagang tatalsik yan due to moving parts, engine pressure and oil mist...

AY OO NGA NOH... dinaman masyado bobo, medyo konti lang alam.
siguro nga ok pa naman.. kasi sa oil concumption, within 3 months, less than 1 liter oil lang ang nababawas.. sa fuel consumption nga nasa 11-12 kms/liter at 13 pa nga pag long trip highway eh.. di rin naman gaano kausok tong adventure namin. medyo mausok lang pagka start pero normal lang yun sa diesel.

oo nga.. salamat..

[dobbie]

AY OO NGA NOH... dinaman masyado bobo, medyo konti lang alam.
siguro nga ok pa naman.. kasi sa oil concumption, within 3 months, less than 1 liter oil lang ang nababawas.. sa [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]fuel [COLOR=blue! important]consumption[/color][/color][/color] nga nasa 11-12 kms/liter at 13 pa nga pag long trip highway eh.. di rin naman gaano kausok tong adventure namin. medyo mausok lang pagka start pero normal lang yun sa diesel.

its not normal at all, i have a 4ja1 engine check up last week its the same situation like yours may usok sa dip stick at usok sa filler cap pero the catch is hindi sia nag a add up ng oil until mag change oil sia in 3 months. its pretty normal,yung sa case mo nag a add up ka pa ng oil it means to say nag burning oil na yung engine mo, wala bang leak yun?

[yapoy86]

kung nauubos ang engine oil eh hindi talaga normal yan kasi nagsusunog na ng langis yung engine...

but what are your basis na nauubos nga ang oil?? check muna natin as per manual on how to measure engine oil.. baka naman mali ang pag sukat natin at dagdag tayo ng dagdag ng oil which is bad of the engine..

also kung very minimal lang ang loss of oil eh ok pa yan kasi the engine is not 100% machine there will always be losses especially sa oil during operation...

one way of checking kung oil is burning is by smelling the exhaust... it is very noticeable in the smell of oil burning together with diesel...also you will notice na medyo malapot yung engine oil mo pag nagsusunog na ng langis kasi yung carbon humahalo na sa langis..

[speedyfix]

anytime is engine is running and you open up a supposedly sealed chamber normal lang na may lalabas na hangin.