engine swap for honda

[shinotek31]

Hello ya'll !

Im planning to buy a Civic sometime this year. Im looking at 95 Esi or 96 Lxi Model.

If it would fit my budget im planning to swap the stock engine with a DB15 VTEC or maybe a B16ef, A ..

I would just like to find out more information with the best choice out of the 2.. how much HP does the DB15 and B16 have ? and if ever i do the engine swap .. do you have any ideas where and how much it would cost for everything to be done ?

thanks!

[d j]

if it was up to me, I would go for a B16 or even B18... your gonna need the longblock (including tranee), ecu, wiring harness, custom/modified engine mounts, custom/modified shifter linkage. and if you wana do just a single cam vtec swap, al your gonan need is the shortblock, engine wiring harness and ecu.
...why do you wanna swap to begin with? what are you looking to do with the car? drag/autocross? or do you just want that extra "umphh" from the vtec?

as far as pricing, I dunno how much it is over there but down here, it would cost you at least $1500 for the complete swap including labor...

[niky]

A full-on B16 swap used to cost between 80-100k pesos, depending on how much needed to be changed. I think the ESi's fuel pump is strong enough for the B16, but you'll still need a whole shebang of wiring to be done, and that's what costs.

If you're not into drag racing, and you're not going to change anything else on the car (shocks, springs, tires or brakes) to cope with the extra power, then a D15B swap is enough. I don't know the cost, or if you could possibly just swap in the head and ECU onto an LXi's 1.5, but I'm wagering it's 50k or less for the entire project.

A 130-hp D15B-equipped ESi or LXi is just about quick enough for daily use, and would be fun on weekends. With proper intake and exhaust mods, it would be a near match for a stock SiR (lighter body).

Up to you what you want, but if you do go for more power, make sure you spend for good tires... and in the case of a B16-swap, good brakes and a better suspension.

[speedyfix]

if you're going for the d15 lang then you might as well just save up and buy the vti na 96. halos same pa power. if you're going to swap in the b16 then just save up and buy a sir.

[EssB]

what's your objective for the swap?

[shinotek31]

i was just looking around and gathering much information on engine swapping..
i guess i just wanted to get that extra Umph in my hood !

i've always been into ' the sleeper ' type of car eversince. im just new here in the PI and im still abit clueless on how much things cost and where to get them at ..

im not really planning on racing the car .. i guess it never really hurts to have power under the hood ..

but thanks so much for the insights guys ! very much appreciated !

[ssaloon]

best to save up for a 2nd hand SiR nalang. or if you want, get an EG hatch and swap in a D15. decent power to weight ratio, plus it doesn't drink too much fuel.

[eman7]

Buhayin ko lang po yung thread. ngaung 2012 ano ba mga shop na nag bebenta ng d15b vtec at kasama install? yung magaling at mapagkakatiwalaan and magkano aabutin? Salamat!

[isa1023]

Halos lahat ng surplusan sa Imus, Banawe at Evangelista meron niyan. Mga P50K kasama na install.

Ano auto at makina mo sir at bakit mo gusto ng engine swap?

Parang sawa na kasi ako sa D15B :angel3:.

(kung PH16 yan usap tayo)

[eman7]

Halos lahat ng surplusan sa Imus, Banawe at Evangelista meron niyan. Mga P50K kasama na install.

Ano auto at makina mo sir at bakit mo gusto ng engine swap?

Parang sawa na kasi ako sa D15B :angel3:.

(kung PH16 yan usap tayo)

Sir Eg hatch na PH12.. nung nabili ko dami lumabas na problema eh, hirap talaga pag noob sa auto. Ok ba FC ng d15b na vtec? lalo na pag di ihahataw?

[isa1023]

Okay naman. Naka-16km/liter ako dati pero hindi ako nag-aircon (sira kasi ) at hindi ako nata-traffic.

Basta importante bago ka kumuha pa-compression test mo yung makina.

Yung pangalawang D15B ko medyo loose compression na. Although matipid pa din sa gas (8.5 km/liter) eh wala ng power.

[renzo_d10]

Hirap bumili ng makina ngayon especially sa Banawe. Malamang binaha yun.

[eman7]

Salamat sa Tips! ok pala FC nya
tatandaan ko yan, yung nagtitinda ba ng makina, may pang test na din? Sensya late reply ako.. may pasok padin sa trabaho nmin eh.

[isa1023]

Mas maganda kung meron. Madali lang naman i-test yun. Parang dial-type lang na tire gauge yung itsura nung tester:


Ite-test nila isasa yan sa lagayan ng spark plug tapos ika-crank dun sa may pulley (assuming na hindi nakakabit yung makina sa kotse).

Bale te-testingin nila isa-isa yung piston kung sealed pa ng mabuti. Dapat hindi bababa sa 170 psi ang resulta.

Pag bumaba pa dun, sigurado mag-uusok ka na at kakailanganin din ng overhaul nun soon kaya as much as possible, kunin mo yung maganda yung compression readings.

Medyo magastos din magpa-overhaul.

Okay na siguro sayo D15B hindi ka naman siguro kakarera.

[isa1023]

Isa pang reminder: high compression engine ang D15B kaya dapat mas mataas sa 160 psi yung compression results niya para makasigurado kang okay pa yung engine block.

Yung ibang mekaniko kasi baka sabihin sayo na okay pa ang 160 psi sa compression test.

Yung sa akin 160 psi lahat ng piston nag-uusok na ako pag hinahataw tsaka wala ng hatak tinatalo na ko ng mga tinatalo ko dati.

[eman7]

Ganun pala yun. So mas mataas compression mas ok at dapat pareparehas? malalaman din ba mileage nun at kung gano ka sariwa? wala pa kong budget pero balak kong pasyalan yung banawe at evangelista para makapag estimate.

[isa1023]

Ganun pala yun. So mas mataas compression mas ok at dapat pareparehas?

Ideally, ganun nga sir. Pwede namang hindi eksaktong pare-pareho yung reading ng compression kada piston basta wag lang malaki ang diperensya nila.

malalaman din ba mileage nun at kung gano ka sariwa?

Naku sir hindi malalaman ang mileage sa pamamagitan ng compression test. Pero matatancha niyo dun kung gaano ng kalaspag yung makina. Maganda sir pa-compression test mo tapos pag okay sayo, hingi ka na lang ng warranty.

Medyo mahal magpa-overhaul kaya mahirap magbakasakali.