Engine Swap

[JoshuaCajipe]

Bro h15 is the same as ph15 non vtec. It's practically a d series engine badged for the Philippines.

There are 3 types of d15 jdm... non vtec, 20 cams, and 3 stage.

Panget talaga 3 stage, walang torque.

Goal is racing but don't like the better platform of a b20. It's cheaper, a lot of torque.

Pero Sige sohc tayo, wag ka na Palit makina... Get a 20 cam vtec head and that's it.

Get a p08 box, fuel pump, possibly injectors, and cam gear. Whp ng ganyan is just 80 to 90hp.

You could get started with that and magubos ng budget sa suspension, tires and bucket seats. That is kung track attack.

Depende lahat sa tuning bro. Get a very good tuner and mechanic.

Edit: meron po h series makina Honda. Usually on accords stock. Most common is the h22.

So sir what do you suggest ? Keep my engine ? And get a 20 cam vtec head ? P08 Box , Fuel Pump, Injectors? and cam gear?
Magkano to max yun ? What kind of Head pwede mong ma suggest sir ? ZC Vtec o b20 ? Anong Prefer nyong Head ? and how much ?

[JoshuaCajipe]

Yup. I was pointing out that there are no H15 engines, not that the H-series did not exist (H22 in the Accord Euro R).

D15/PH15 yung common name ng City 1.5 engine, just as D16/PH16 yung sa Civic ESi/VTi.

Anyway, I agree that a B20 is the way to go if you're looking for torque, though arguably a lighter B18/B16 provides better balance for such a light chassis.

I still think that if he wants a track car he should just get another car - making your daily drive as your track toy means making a lot of compromises. And again, the City chassis just isn't as good as the EG/EK.



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Sir mostly magkano mga b20 head ? Thank you sa suggestions

[Sarsi]

Sell your city and buy a civic Sir. 😂

Pag yan na auto mo, Dami mo magiging kaibigan dito hehe

[mongobread]

I didn't expect na marami mag-comment sa lead ng question ko.

By any chance sir, marami na po ba kayo alam sa pagmemekaniko?

I mean nakapag DIY na po ba kayo sa engine nyo at kayo na gumagawa ng sira?

If yes, then go with your gut feeling at sa ma-reresearch nyo.

But based sa mga nabasa ko sa mga nagcomment nun sumagot kayo ng RACING. Feeling ko po parang kulang pa yung research nyo at di pa ata po kayo nakakapag-mekaniko.

IMHO, before going for engine swap and think of racing dapat po ata marami na store knowledge sa engine.

Ika nga nun mekaniko ko, kung magtatalyer ka dapat ikaw ang top mechanic. Dahil kung tauhan mo ang top mechanic at by chance pumalpak, yun name mo as owner ng talyer mapapahiya.

I think pareho din ang concept sa pagre-racing. Dapat ikaw na ang magaling kumalikot ng oto mo at ikaw na rin ang magaling nitong mekaniko. By that, alam mo ang response ng makina at limits nito sa track (kung track racing ang balak hehe)

Just my 2 cents lang po.

Marami e, after ko sana iEngine Swap. go for RACING sana.

[[archie]]

So sir what do you suggest ? Keep my engine ? And get a 20 cam vtec head ? P08 Box , Fuel Pump, Injectors? and cam gear?
Magkano to max yun ? What kind of Head pwede mong ma suggest sir ? ZC Vtec o b20 ? Anong Prefer nyong Head ? and how much ?

OK, basics muna. D series, ang pwede mo lang lagay diyan... D series components.

Head ng b20 b16 hindi pwede.

Best you can do is 20 cam lobe d15b vtec.

Fuel pump and injector hindi biro gastos. I got 560cc injector for 15k. Walbro pump 255lph 6.5k. Cam gear for sohc around 5k. Ecu 10k.

Wala ka pa transmission. Tuning 15k, mechanic to install 10k to 15k, dyno 5k per hour. Depende, gastos ka na sa mechanic since more experience more moolah.

Yes keep the engine pero it would not satisfy you. I've done cam gear and box pero bitin sa power kaya boost na ko.

T3/t4 turbo charger kit kinuha ko b20 engine.

Compute ka na lang how much. All motor without retainers, pistons, etc can only give minimal increase unlike turbo, more hp.

All these and no suspension and tires pa.

How much for all that for minimal hp gain? Turbo talaga bang for buck.

Kung mabibitin increase psi, Palit piston valve spring retainers. More value for the money imo.

Well it's up to you lahat yan. Just be prepared to shell out serious moolah.

Pm me...

[strawhat]

*TS if racing talaga, go for B series na, mabibitin ka lang sa D series. Kung ang path na dadaan mo sa yun sinabi ni sir [archie], after mo matapos ng gastos sa pag upgrade ng D series ay parang bumili ka na din ng B series. isagad mo na para isang gastusan na lang hehehe

IMHO

[jaypee10]

d15 ay naka kabit sa EK .mas maganda kung maka bibili ka ng buong engine kasama ang mga harness at comp box,para salpak nalang
pero kung ako maglalagay na ako ng ph 16 or P16 surplus engine vtec

[strawhat]

d15 ay naka kabit sa EK .mas maganda kung maka bibili ka ng buong engine kasama ang mga harness at comp box,para salpak nalang
pero kung ako maglalagay na ako ng ph 16 or P16 surplus engine vtec

Sir ang alam ko d15b double vtec yun ang pang EK, yun d15b single vtec is pang EG

[jaypee10]

Sir ang alam ko d15b double vtec yun ang pang EK, yun d15b single vtec is pang EG

diko na matandaan .pero un ung nabili namin na pinalit namin sa PH16 vti .sabi nga double vtec daw un kasi dalawa ung trigger ng vtec sa ibabaw diko lang sure kung un nga ang tamang tawag dun..pero walang tatak na vtec ung valve cover niya,

mura lang namin nakuha 35 k kasama na lahat salpak nalang .ac compre.saka tranny except ung rack n pinion.

pero pinag tatapat namin ung sa kanya at sa akin .stock kasi na PH16 vti ung sa akin.
sa kanya nga ung bagong engine hirap na hirap din siyang maka habol sa vti ko.
same stock..

[jut703]

Sir ang alam ko d15b double vtec yun ang pang EK, yun d15b single vtec is pang EG

Stock engine of EG ESi is PH16 non-VTEC. Equivalent to a D16 elsewhere.

Stock engine of EK VTi is PH16A1 SOHC VTEC. Also a D16.

The only Civic to get a D15 is the EK LXi, with a non-VTEC locally called a PH15.


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[innova2013]

mas maganda sana kung sasabihin ni TS kung para saan niya gagamitin yun car (pang drag/circuit/slalom).
para makapag advice ng mas tamang engine para sa goal niya.

pinaka practical so far D15B (20 cam lobes), kung galing PH15 non-vtec siya, malayong malayo na ang performance difference ng dalawa, kumbaga, sulit upgrade na. lalo na kung daily driven. power with good fuel consumption.

or

do a mini-me setup tulad ng advice ni archie.

[[archie]]

Maraming Avenue pwede sa upgrade. Pero in my opinion driving muna.

Ika nga... If you can't go fast with 90hp, 900hp won't help.

[nhel0719]

Hi Guys !
I have a Honda City 2002 Type Z. My engine right now is Hyper15 Non Vtec.
Can you suggest any good and cheap engine ? Except b16,b18c and b20
I heard that d15 20camlobs are cheap. But i need to hear your suggestions and opinions about it.
Suggest also what to put for Type Z for performance and power.
I have a N1 Muffler,Air Intake, Gregs Headers. No Resonator Straight piped. thats it.
wish to hear your voice for my car.
Thanks!

Alam mo bro pareha tayo ng gusto, sa corolla ko rin balak ko yan.nakatulong ng malaki yung mga suggestions sa akin plus pm kay pdspd hehe.kaya ipon mode muna but still parang trip ko in the mean time gawin muna yun IHE.i did my own research as well kasi mahirap yung dko alam kung ano at pano ang gagawin at marami ako nalaman na share ko lng syo..since gusto mo ng masmabilis na oto isinama mo ba sa factor mo kung pano mo papahintuin yung bilis ng oto mo yung brakes ba, kasi from what I read all over e di lang basta makina ang papalitan dapat pati preno kasi di kaya ng stock na brake system yung add n hp...also meron din instance na dapat palitan din ang clutch.since pang race ang balak mo e damay pati suspension diba..sa mga masters na tsikoteers pa correct na lang po kung may mali ako sa info..
On my part e nakahold muna temp yung proj ko dahil uunahin ko muna baguhin suspension at brake system ko para nakahanda na sya just in case matuloy na yung engine swap ko..

[JoshuaCajipe]

Ang dami nyong opinion Sir. Thank you sa mga opinion sir.
Mag b20 Head nalang siguro ako sir. Malakas daw kasi hatak.
I already contacted the shop here i think im going to buy b20 head for 18k.

[[archie]]

Brakes come in last. Performance brake pads lang will work. Unless you have around 200hp or more, no need to upgrade calipers.

If the mods are IHE only, or even tuned with a programable box and cam gear... Kaya ng bendix metal king pads.

Imo, suspension and tires are more important.

[jaypee10]

ang trip ko naman ung tipong bulok na bulok ang itsura ng sasakyan mo.pero wag na wag mong susubukan bombaha.at hamunin ng pustahan. pero sa makina hayop..ung tipong pwede mong itapat sa subaru.

he he he..

may napanood kasi ako sa DMAX isang farmtruck pinalitan ng 900 hp tapos hinamon ng mitsubishi..talo ung lancer

[[archie]]

Ang dami nyong opinion Sir. Thank you sa mga opinion sir.
Mag b20 Head nalang siguro ako sir. Malakas daw kasi hatak.
I already contacted the shop here i think im going to buy b20 head for 18k.

Boss teka, hindi pwede sa makina niyo yung b20 head. D series yung sanyo single cam.

B20 is dohc. Magsasayang lang kayo pera.

Hope mabasa mo ito. Baka magsayang ka pera.

[strawhat]

Stock engine of EG ESi is PH16 non-VTEC. Equivalent to a D16 elsewhere.

Stock engine of EK VTi is PH16A1 SOHC VTEC. Also a D16.

The only Civic to get a D15 is the EK LXi, with a non-VTEC locally called a PH15.


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sorry my bad, i'm talking about jdm engine

[strawhat]

Boss teka, hindi pwede sa makina niyo yung b20 head. D series yung sanyo single cam.

B20 is dohc. Magsasayang lang kayo pera.

Hope mabasa mo ito. Baka magsayang ka pera.

sana nga TS mabasa mo ito para di ssyang pera mo.
DOHC is for DOHC
SOHC is for SOHC

gawin mo na lang b20 block, b18 type r head

[nhel0719]

Brakes come in last. Performance brake pads lang will work. Unless you have around 200hp or more, no need to upgrade calipers.

If the mods are IHE only, or even tuned with a programable box and cam gear... Kaya ng bendix metal king pads.

Imo, suspension and tires are more important.

* archie, Ok got it yung sa akin kasing future mod e 4age 20v kaya palit preno to be safe..new stuff to learn .sa IHE naman eh figured ko na na wala change pads lang ok na since di naman drastic hp gain.