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    Hello, guys. This is probably a noob question but I recently just got an oil change a few days ago for my 2017 Honda HRV at ValuePlus. I specifically told the shop at appointment and TWICE before beginning the job to use 0W-20 oil as recommended by the manual. Since bihira naman lumamig dito sa atin; if not available, probably 0W-30, 5W-30, or 10W-30 as this is what the manual says I can use. After doing the job, I discovered on the receipt that they used 5W-40, a thicker oil. Should I be concerned and have the oil changed immediately? Makaka-damage ba ito ng engine? Ngayon lang kasi nangyari sa akin na hindi ayon sa manual ang nagamit.

    Iba-iba ang opinion sa ibang forum sites (mostly foreign sites), sabi ng iba okay lang daw kung mainit ang weather natin pero sabi naman ng iba masyadong malapot daw baka mahirapan ang makina.

    I asked the shop why this happened even though I told them so many times about what I needed. Sabi sa akin "wala po kami ganung oil sir". Nainis ako nun sa loob loob kasi ngayon lang talaga nila sasabihin pero kinausap ko ng maayos. Paulit ulit pa sinasabi ng lalake sa counter na mukhang supervisor na same lang daw un kahit sa loob loob ko hindi talaga kaya nga different specs. Nainis ako kasi kulang sila sa communication sa customer, di nakikinig. Umalis na lang din ako pagkatapos.

    Salamat po sa sasagot.

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    you'll be fine, your fc will be a little higher(1-3%)

    you won't hurt anything.

    next time you ask for an oil change, check the bottle first and also the filter. That's what I do from the shops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    you'll be fine, your fc will be a little higher(1-3%)

    you won't hurt anything.

    next time you ask for an oil change, check the bottle first and also the filter. That's what I do from the shops.
    Will do. Thanks for the advice!

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    Just use the car regularly.. the might not notice the change in fuel consumption especially on city driving.. one reason why manufacturers recommend lower oil viscosity is to reach their promised FC..

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    You can buy from Lazada the Amsoil 0w20 FS oil. Our Hondas before used such oil from the casa and it works well in our climate.


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    Forget about it until your next change oil. No need to worry at walang mangyayari sa kotse mo.


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    The fact that they put the oil without your permission is already a warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Forget about it until your next change oil. No need to worry at walang mangyayari sa kotse mo.


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    Yun nga. Malaking issue sakin un kasi di nila inuupdate customer nila. Walang transparency. Be aware na lang siguro. THis is ValuePlus E. Rod. btw. I should have done my research, I've actually been reading reviews na ibang parts na gamit nila questionable quality. They are not that cheaper than the casa too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valharth1031 View Post
    Yun nga. Malaking issue sakin un kasi di nila inuupdate customer nila. Walang transparency. Be aware na lang siguro. THis is ValuePlus E. Rod. btw. I should have done my research, I've actually been reading reviews na ibang parts na gamit nila questionable quality. They are not that cheaper than the casa too.
    Hinde mo dapat binayaran


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Hinde mo dapat binayaran


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    Yun lang. Nakapag bayad na ako bago nalaman. Lesson learned.

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    No worries naman if they used 5w40 as the R18 engine (same as the Civic 1.8L) can use varying viscosities ranging from 0w20 to 10w30. However, they should have told you that 5w40 is the oil they intended to use.

    If you want to be sure of the oil that you intend to use, I suggest you buy them on your own. Monitor the engine response with the thicker oil and if you observe that it is not as it was, you can change the oil.


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    you should be good no need to over think it. just go on with your normal maintenance schedule here on. i even doubt you would feel the potential fuel consumption change. traffic conditions would be vastly more of a factor in fuel consumption especially in our settings.

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    I suggest the first time you use the vehicle in the morning, have the engine warm-up for 5 minutes idle before using/driving it, at least mainit na sa loob and the oil has lubricated your engine/pistons because cold thicker oil moves slowly at first, so wala naman gaanong problema

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    Well if it is a hot day, 40 could even be more useful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    I suggest the first time you use the vehicle in the morning, have the engine warm-up for 5 minutes idle before using/driving it, at least mainit na sa loob and the oil has lubricated your engine/pistons because cold thicker oil moves slowly at first, so wala naman gaanong problema
    No need, unless you live in frigid weather.

    The oil used is 5W-x multigrade. A few seconds of "warmup" will do.... about the time to settle down and buckle up. Just drive easily as you get out of your driveway and progressively drive normally as the engine coolant approaches operating temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    No need, unless you live in frigid weather.

    The oil used is 5W-x multigrade. A few seconds of "warmup" will do.... about the time to settle down and buckle up. Just drive easily as you get out of your driveway and progressively drive normally as the engine coolant approaches operating temp.

    Boss oj88, yun bang Top1 synthetic oil na 15W40 hindi na kailangan i warm-up yun? Kasi yung uncle ko ganun parati ginagawa niya, warm-up muna mga 5 minutes bago lumakad, and he is using an Isuzu Crosswind 2014 diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    I suggest the first time you use the vehicle in the morning, have the engine warm-up for 5 minutes idle before using/driving it
    Seriously? Are we back in the 70s? ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    No worries naman if they used 5w40 as the R18 engine (same as the Civic 1.8L) can use varying viscosities ranging from 0w20 to 10w30. However, they should have told you that 5w40 is the oil they intended to use.

    If you want to be sure of the oil that you intend to use, I suggest you buy them on your own. Monitor the engine response with the thicker oil and if you observe that it is not as it was, you can change the oil.


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    I actually asked them if I could bring my own oil to which they vehemently refused kasi daw "policy". This is from ValuePlus E. Rod. Kaya nagka leche leche. I guess I should have been more vigilant and they should ahve been more transparent.

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    5w40 is still thin enough with no need to warm the engine prior to moving on. I would suggest this viscosity as the thickest for use as a FS option. Some semi-synthetic oils already have this viscosity.

    For mineral oil, 10w30 for newer gas cars and 10w40 for older gas cars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valharth1031 View Post
    Hello, guys. This is probably a noob question but I recently just got an oil change a few days ago for my 2017 Honda HRV at ValuePlus. I specifically told the shop at appointment and TWICE before beginning the job to use 0W-20 oil as recommended by the manual. Since bihira naman lumamig dito sa atin; if not available, probably 0W-30, 5W-30, or 10W-30 as this is what the manual says I can use. After doing the job, I discovered on the receipt that they used 5W-40, a thicker oil. Should I be concerned and have the oil changed immediately? Makaka-damage ba ito ng engine? Ngayon lang kasi nangyari sa akin na hindi ayon sa manual ang nagamit.

    Iba-iba ang opinion sa ibang forum sites (mostly foreign sites), sabi ng iba okay lang daw kung mainit ang weather natin pero sabi naman ng iba masyadong malapot daw baka mahirapan ang makina.

    I asked the shop why this happened even though I told them so many times about what I needed. Sabi sa akin "wala po kami ganung oil sir". Nainis ako nun sa loob loob kasi ngayon lang talaga nila sasabihin pero kinausap ko ng maayos. Paulit ulit pa sinasabi ng lalake sa counter na mukhang supervisor na same lang daw un kahit sa loob loob ko hindi talaga kaya nga different specs. Nainis ako kasi kulang sila sa communication sa customer, di nakikinig. Umalis na lang din ako pagkatapos.

    Salamat po sa sasagot.
    this is a three-year old car.
    i am wondering, what type oil has it been using before?
    does casa have the requisite 0W-20 oil?
    is it possible, the car has already been on a more viscous grade of oil even before?

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