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    gurus, kindly enlightened me on this. my brod is currently using my car. he had change oil last month and his mechanic recommended using oil treatment, on which he cant remember the brand. yesterday, i check the car and noticed there is gas pressure coming out from the dipstick tube. occasionally, may tumatalsik ding langis na pa kunti-kunti. i immediately advised him to changed oil. malabnaw talaga ang oil na nagamit nya, i suspect it is due to the oil treatment. i asked my mechanic on this. it may be blow by, but there are also cases, according to him, its normal even for new engines to have blow by. by the way, the car is isuzu crosswind XT. does it mean, my engine is dying?

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    bakit mahina na po ba humatak ang crosswind nyo??

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    if your engine is on then that is just normal. thinner oils tend to splash, but it circulates more better than thicker oils.

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    check mo rin ang oil level but i think hindi yun ang cause ng splashing. haven't experienced it in 6 years with my xto. wait natin mga mahahaba / malalayo na exp sa 4ja-1.
    Last edited by XTO; December 5th, 2007 at 02:13 PM.

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    If the oil flush was ran through the crankcase in order to clean the system, it's possible it was overfilled and could have overstressed the seals.

    Another possibility is if there's too much oil, the residual oil in the oil pan might be too much so the crankshaft might be splashing on to the oil, allowing it to foam (?).

    If you want to make sure your engine is fine, have the compression checked against standard figures for your specific engine and also check for any inconsistency.

    You said malabnaw yung oil - does the car lose coolant/water? I hope it's not a headgasket/warped head problem. Have it checked na rin to be on the safe side since you don't know what really transpired.

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    Tumatalsik na oil or even blow by is not yet that serious to bring down the engine immediately. When it pumps oil or looses compression on one or more cylinders is serious.
    This is very noticeable in diesel engines.

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    4ja1 din sa akin 7 years na hindi naman ganyan.

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    thanks for the suggestion for a compression test. where can it be done? sa casa lang ba yan available. is it really possible that it may be due to excessive engine oil? in my observation, 4ja1 only needs around 3/4 gallon. but my brod's mechanic did fill 1 gallon plus the additive at 500ml. is there a possibility on that? sana, hindi ito blow by, magastos daw mag paayos nito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aga_cruz View Post
    bakit mahina na po ba humatak ang crosswind nyo??
    actually, ok pa naman. malakas ang hatak. im just worried that it might be blow by. syempre, lahat tayo iwas sa gastos.

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    Isuzu dipsticks will take 1 liter to fill it from low dot to high dot.
    This means if the oil level on the stick is at the mid point, it only takes half a bottle of one liter oil to fill it. One gallon plus the additive is too much.
    Saan ang level ng oil sa dipstick?

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    sakin hindi ko na gagamit lahat ng 4 liters ng engine oil 3 1/2 liters lang no problem naman nasa full level na sya. baka sobrang oil nga yung nailagay ng mehcanic mo sir.

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    ang 4ja1 yata is 5liters ang oil capacity with a change of the oil filter. did you check the oil while the engine was running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARB View Post
    ang 4ja1 yata is 5liters ang oil capacity with a change of the oil filter. did you check the oil while the engine was running?
    the service manual says 4 liters, but i think it should be only 3/4 gal. no, patay ang makina when i check the oil level. its always above the full level pag 1 gal ang nalagay sa makina. sana nga, sobrang oil lang yon. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    Isuzu dipsticks will take 1 liter to fill it from low dot to high dot.
    This means if the oil level on the stick is at the mid point, it only takes half a bottle of one liter oil to fill it. One gallon plus the additive is too much.
    Saan ang level ng oil sa dipstick?
    i checked the car this morning. i had changed oil yesterday. its a little bit above the full level because it was filled with 1 gal. thanks bro. sana nga, ok lang ang engine ko. i checked other sites and found out there should be no gas/air pressure coming out from the dipstick tube. sa akin eh, meron. may hangin talaga lumalabas pag check ko ngayong umaga. ill take this car for a compression test as others do suggest.

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    A gal or 4 liters of motor oil is almost above the max line including filter which is F-512. added oil treatment means you have an excess of 500 ml which is more than it could take, sobra nga baka hindi pa na-drain maige yan. as a result not only splashing but will tend to break your seals at uusok pa yan.
    Sayang….hindi baling below the max say 10-20% below wag lang lagpas.

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    There is a reason why this is written on my car's oil filler cap (see below):

    Hopefully your engine is alright. Just keep an eye on it for now, have it drained properly. If yours has an oil cooler, it might not drain as easily so the dry volume might not be reflected in the drained oil. However, if it is, then there's your answer - your crankcase was overfilled with oil.

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    I suggest you drain it a little. Any level between the low and high mark is ideal. I have seen from the inside of the crankcase the dipstick and the tube that guides it. The tube is around 1/4-1/3cm higher than the high mark/dot.
    This means if oil reaches this tube, crank case pressure will force the oil to shoot. Like barrel of a gun> oil as bullets/projectile crankcase pressure as gunpowder(compressed air on airguns)

    Higher than normal level will also force the oilseals work harder and eventually causes it to fail especially the main, its your call bro.

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    i've started observing steam and oil splash whenever i remove the oil cap and dip stick way back when the odo was still at 150k + now it's at 226k and not losing much oil between oil change intervals...madami na ung 1/4 liter na mdagdag ko and that is when i take it for long trips...so in my case, it's normal i guess...i've encountered many mechanics who have recommended overhauling it but did not do so due to lack of signs...

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    Take it to ASR motors

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    mga sir tanong lang pansin ko kasi nung binubuksan ko yung oil filler cap habang naka-idle yung makina ng auto ko parang may pressure na galing sa loob ng cylinder head, wala naman usok pero napansin ko na may konting talsik ng langis na lumalabas, normal po ba ito? yung sa may dipstick naman ala naman oil na tumatalsik. sa usok sa tailpipe medyo puti kapag bagong start palang pero pagumabot na sa proper temp nawawala naman. oil comsumption ok naman nabawasan lang nung nasira yung crankshaft oilseal last month. plano ko pa lang din magpavalve clearance baka masolve yung problem.

    any advice mga sir?

    may alam din ba kayo na nagcompression test ng 4ja1 dito sa manila. sa casa malamang meron kaya lang naisip ko baka mahal?

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tumatalsik na oil from dipstick tube