Skipping 1,000 kms Change Oil

[KcireReaver]

Is it dangerous skipping the first 1,000 kms change oil of a car?

[dr. d]

Is it dangerous skipping the first 1,000 kms change oil of a car?

i feel that the first 1000 km is the time when the engine sheds off the relatively biggest amount of metal, as the various components seat in.
so yes, i believe in first 1K oil change.

do i have literature supporting my belief?
nope.

but if you mean, will the engine disintegrate a month after, if you fail to do so, probably not.

[StockEngine]

i feel that the first 1000 km is the time when the engine sheds off the relatively biggest amount of metal.
so yes, i believe in first 1K oil change.

do i have literature supporting my belief?
nope.

and you think the filter doesnt remove this?

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[papi smith]

What is your car? Honda explicitly (in red ink and all caps big font) states in their manual that 1,000 kms oil change is not necessary.

[dr. d]

and you think the filter doesnt remove this?

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oh, it will remove some, and let pass some. depends on the particle size and the filter's capability.
everybody knows that.

[falken]

It's in the manual, depends on the manufacturer.
But I'm stuck in my ways, I just go have it changed.

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[StockEngine]

oh, it will remove some, and let pass some. depends on the particle size and the filter's capability.
everybody knows that.

I wonder why they dont practice this in australia or us or thailand. are they special are you special?



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[Walter]

A lot of vehicles don't require first 1000 kms change oil anymore ... manufacturing technology has improved over the years ...

[KcireReaver]

i feel that the first 1000 km is the time when the engine sheds off the relatively biggest amount of metal, as the various components seat in.
so yes, i believe in first 1K oil change.

do i have literature supporting my belief?
nope.

but if you mean, will the engine disintegrate a month after, if you fail to do so, probably not.

what are these metal particles the engine will shed? you mean wear and tear?

What is your car? Honda explicitly (in red ink and all caps big font) states in their manual that 1,000 kms oil change is not necessary.

Im planning to get ciaz but the nearest dealer is 500+ kms away from us. Im thinking of skipping the first 1,000 kms change oil. So Im just asking if that first 1k kms change oil is really necessary.

[dr. d]

I wonder why they dont practice this in australia or us or thailand. are they special are you special?



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i'm neither australian nor thai. you'll have to ask them that question.
i do my driving in the philippines.
and it doesn't cost me an arm nor a leg to do 1K oil change, either.

kayo, sir. what are your thoughts on this 1K oil change?

[dr. d]

what are these metal particles the engine will shed? you mean wear and tear?

.

yespo. wear and tear.

[KcireReaver]

I wonder why they dont practice this in australia or us or thailand. are they special are you special?



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akala ko lang kasi ung purpose nun e ung first 1000 kms ay break in period at ung stock oil ng car e pang break in talaga. e ang alam kong break in period e hanggang 5k kms

[StockEngine]

what are these metal particles the engine will shed? you mean wear and tear?



Im planning to get ciaz but the nearest dealer is 500+ kms away from us. Im thinking of skipping the first 1,000 kms change oil. So Im just asking if that first 1k kms change oil is really necessary.

some new purchases have this free 1000km oil change where they only inspect and not change oil. hope you got that freebie.

if not, still do it for warranty purposes. and try to find a casa/dealer where you see the mechanic change the oil...

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[falken]

what are these metal particles the engine will shed? you mean wear and tear?



Im planning to get ciaz but the nearest dealer is 500+ kms away from us. Im thinking of skipping the first 1,000 kms change oil. So Im just asking if that first 1k kms change oil is really necessary.

If it's stated in the manual, then yes. But you can have it changed near your place if the dealer is that far away, just use engine oil with the recommended certification.

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[Ry_Tower]

1,000kms pms are usually free, why not take advantage of it.

pus if you really want to remove the initial metals due to wear and tear, ideally nga 100kms pa lang change-oil ka na agad after a really good break-in.

[KcireReaver]

yespo. wear and tear.

haha hindi ako convinced sir. bago naman ung engine e hindi kagrabe wear and tear nyan

[StockEngine]

which car? suzuki? tata? yota? honda? 1000km checkup isnt that costly...



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[falken]

which car? suzuki? tata? yota? honda? 1000km checkup isnt that costly...



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I think it's the distance from his place to the dealer's that's got him thinking about skipping the pms.

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[falken]

what are these metal particles the engine will shed? you mean wear and tear?



Im planning to get ciaz but the nearest dealer is 500+ kms away from us. Im thinking of skipping the first 1,000 kms change oil. So Im just asking if that first 1k kms change oil is really necessary.

Is this correct? 500 kms. away?

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[dr. d]

haha hindi ako convinced sir. bago naman ung engine e hindi kagrabe wear and tear nyan

i have noticed, in my since brand-new cars, that fuel consumption is worse during the first few thousands of km. and that it gets better after more thousands of km.
i equate this with "break-in", wherein the moving metal parts are rubbing against each other, still finding the sweet spot.
after some more metal files out, that sweet spot is attained, friction is lessened, and fuel efficiency improves.
changing oil then, removes the metal filings that, if left in the engine, act as abrasives that will wear out metal faster.
hence the oil change.

some folks believe that with today's modern manufacturing methods, tolerances are improved, making this 1K oil change un-necessary.
but i do it, just the same. i'm an old dog... hard to learn new tricks.
heh heh.

btw.
while a popular belief of the advantage of changing oil, is removing metal particles brought about by wear and tear,
an equally important reason for oil change, is that additives to the oil, added to make oil more effective as a lubricant, are lost over time and use. replacing the old oil with new oil, restores these additives.