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    Mga sir help po. Kahapon nung start ko na po kotse ko, lakas ng redondo pero ayaw nya magtuloy magstart! Sabi ko baka Gas kasi nasa redline na. I bought 5L of Vpower Gas. Try ko Ulit Start, ayaw pa rin, pero lakas naman ng redondo nya. What cause po kaya why nag kakaganun?? My Ride is Sentra ECCS. EFI.tnX

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    Quote Originally Posted by joseph20 View Post
    Mga sir help po. Kahapon nung start ko na po kotse ko, lakas ng redondo pero ayaw nya magtuloy magstart! Sabi ko baka Gas kasi nasa redline na. I bought 5L of Vpower Gas. Try ko Ulit Start, ayaw pa rin, pero lakas naman ng redondo nya. What cause po kaya why nag kakaganun?? My Ride is Sentra ECCS. EFI.tnX
    check your Fuel pump?

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    first things to check:

    spark, fuel , and codes if any

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    Check also fuel filter.

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    sir ayos lang po ba kung gagawin ko is, tanggalin ko muna yung fuel filter sa hose then i redondo ko, so kung may gas na sumirit or luamabas, meaning ok pa fuel pump ko?? And Fuel Filter Yung may diperesya? pwede ba ganun?? Tyaka kung sakali may clog po sa fuel lines, ma reremedyuhan pa ba mga ganun??

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    Oo, don't worry, lahat naman yan pwede maayos either thru diskarte or palit ng piesa.

    Baka may tubig yung fuel?

    yung fuel filter, baka barado?

    ok pa kaya yung ECU? Though mahirap masira yun.

    baka sira na yung spark plug?

    Wala ka bang trusted mechanic? saan area ka?

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    Q.C tandang sora. Kasi, bago ko po sana ipa consult mechanic, at least i know what possible cause why nagkakaganun. So, sir, if ever na may sumirit na Gas, fuel filter ang palitin na po diba?? 2 po ba tlaga fuel filter? 1 at the hood, and the other one is nasa Gas Tank part daw po? tama ba yun?

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    bro, according to your story, umabot ka sa red line so meaning almost empty ang tank. very high chance is yung mga dumi sa gas is causing a clog. better start to drain your fuel tank and the same time check your fuel pump as in open it up to clean. if you see some dirt in the pump, blow the fuel line. now, after doing all this and hardstart pa din, change fuel filter. that's should fix your the problem base on your story.

    pag na ayos na, we hope to hear from you again, so more will learn from your experience. good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joseph20 View Post
    Mga sir help po. Kahapon nung start ko na po kotse ko, lakas ng redondo pero ayaw nya magtuloy magstart! Sabi ko baka Gas kasi nasa redline na. I bought 5L of Vpower Gas. Try ko Ulit Start, ayaw pa rin, pero lakas naman ng redondo nya. What cause po kaya why nag kakaganun?? My Ride is Sentra ECCS. EFI.tnX

    hello joseph,
    cehck the obvious, check the basics. do you have a heathy bluish white spark at from the ignition cables? did you hear unusual noises while cranking? is your check engine light (malfunction indicator light/ idiot light/ service engine light) on while the ignition switch is in the run(not start) position? if the MIL does not come on, that means the ECCS(engine computer as what nissan calls it) probably lost power due to a busted fuse. if the light is on, check for the fuel pump fuse. the fuel pump only gets lubrication from the fuel it pumps and if it was dry as what you have insinuated, chances are that the pump was drawing more than normal current that blew the fuse. check the sacrificial parts first(fuse). or maybe, by coincidence the valve timing went off. we don't know the mileage(timing chain on this car is due for replacement every 100k miles if i am not mistaken). by all means check the expendable sacrificial parts first whichever is due for replacement anyway.
    jick

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    check the fuel filter, time spark, pati compression na din.. tnx

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    Quote Originally Posted by joseph20 View Post
    sir ayos lang po ba kung gagawin ko is, tanggalin ko muna yung fuel filter sa hose then i redondo ko, so kung may gas na sumirit or luamabas, meaning ok pa fuel pump ko?? And Fuel Filter Yung may diperesya? pwede ba ganun?? Tyaka kung sakali may clog po sa fuel lines, ma reremedyuhan pa ba mga ganun??
    Ok yan, pero lagyan mo ng bote ang hose baka tumalsik sa mga sparkable.
    Blow the inlet of the filter pag na fill mo na magkaka beke ka barado na yan.
    Another way is to put a transparent hose from the line from the tank to filter to pump and watch the flow and bullbles that pass through it.
    Flush the line with air and observe kung may clog or singaw sa linya

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    Hi po mga expert,
    I have the exactly the same situation and problem yun nga lang corolla 93gli ang oto ko.
    pinatingnan ko sa mekaniko sabi daw computer box ang sira kasi nung check nya ang current going to the fuel pump e di umilaw ang kanyang small tester bulb.
    di ko po alam kung talagang need magpalit ng computer box, so pano po talaga malaman kung computer box or fuel pump o filter ang me tama?
    ganun din po kasi nangyari sa kin gaya ki joseph20 na red light flashihng na ang fuel..
    please help...di ko alam kung san ang intake at outlet hose ng fuel to check kung ok ang fuel pump.
    thanks.
    dito nga po pala ako sa banlat,tandang sora, q.c.
    please txt me po what to do at 09274675523

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    Quote Originally Posted by jigendaisuke View Post
    Hi po mga expert,
    I have the exactly the same situation and problem yun nga lang corolla 93gli ang oto ko.
    pinatingnan ko sa mekaniko sabi daw computer box ang sira kasi nung check nya ang current going to the fuel pump e di umilaw ang kanyang small tester bulb.
    di ko po alam kung talagang need magpalit ng computer box, so pano po talaga malaman kung computer box or fuel pump o filter ang me tama?
    ganun din po kasi nangyari sa kin gaya ki joseph20 na red light flashihng na ang fuel..
    please help...di ko alam kung san ang intake at outlet hose ng fuel to check kung ok ang fuel pump.
    thanks.
    dito nga po pala ako sa banlat,tandang sora, q.c.
    please txt me po what to do at 09274675523

    jigendaisuke,
    that is the most part of guessing this kind of malfunction. if the "mechanic" is checking the output line to the fuel pump, he went too far first or he does not have a picture how toyota fuel dellivery system is laid out. the ECU or ECM or PCM as it called now is not and shall not be the first to blamed as the culprit. "when everything is beyond guess, blame the computer" mentality. the PCM does not deliver positive signal to the pump, it "enables" the CIRCUIT OPEN RELAY" usually located on the left kick panel in the fuse box number two(adjacent to your left ankle as you command your spaceship. the relay is a five terminal make type relay which enabled by the ST terminal in the ignition switch while the engine is being cranked and continued to be enabled afterwhich by the PCM when there is signal from the ignition system that the same PCM is now delivering signal to fire the igition coils. toyota logic is to enable the fuel pump (CIRCUIT OPEN RELAY) while you crank the engine and continue to
    enable it ignition is active. it is a chain reaction of events: 1. engine is cranking and/or ignition is active, 2. PCM enables the CIRCUIT OPEN RELAY, 3. the output of the relay delivers battery voltage to the fuel pump. tell your "mechanic" next time where he pokes his improvised test light as this can possibly harm or fry your computer. that is the wrong testeer to use on computer circuits in your car. also, check for a fuel pump fuse, toyota uses a yellow ATO or yellow MINI ATO fuse for this circuit. have the best of luck with your "mechanic" or he hasn't figured it out, email me direct.
    jick

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    BRO, kindly check engine grounding.baka ito makatulong.

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    nakuh, thanks po sa lahat nag response! Very informative.
    Update ko lang po. Nung una, fuse po pala problema, fuse ng fuel pump pundi na base sa mechanic namin driver. So umandar na siya at naging ok siya a week. But, yesterday po namatay nanaman dahan2 while driving, redondo nalang merun,buti naitabi ko pa, but thanks God After a minutes, nag start na!

    Kanina po ayun, tumirik nanaman po ako, talagang tuluyan na po siya hindi na nag start, pa rescue na ko sa driver namin, pero, talagang electricals po. ayaw din po makuha sa kadyot, so ayun, hinatak nalang ng Xtrail namin. Cause is pumutok nanaman daw po kasi yung fuse at nag-iinit daw po yung isang relay. Una lakas redondo, til naubos na battery. Ayun po, sensya na sa long story.

    Ok naman Fuel Pump, pag check! Fuel filter, pinalitan ko last november, pero bumili na rin ako last week, OEM! Nilinis ko rin Air Filter(Cone Type) ko.
    Ok naman sparkplugs and alternator.

    Question ko po is, ano po kaya possible cause talaga why pumuputok yung fuse ng fuel pump? and any cons?? tnX

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    Question ko po is, ano po kaya possible cause talaga why pumuputok yung fuse ng fuel pump? and any cons?? tnX
    Normal cause of blown fuse is an electrical problem. Fuses are the weak link of the system. They are desigbed to fail/blow to protect the rest of your electrical system. Have your car checked by a competent auto electrician. Possible may short or ground sa fuel pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joseph20 View Post
    sir ayos lang po ba kung gagawin ko is, tanggalin ko muna yung fuel filter sa hose then i redondo ko, so kung may gas na sumirit or luamabas, meaning ok pa fuel pump ko?? And Fuel Filter Yung may diperesya? pwede ba ganun?? Tyaka kung sakali may clog po sa fuel lines, ma reremedyuhan pa ba mga ganun??


    Dati I was having the same problem with emptying my gas and apparently my engine's fuel line got clogged pero not to the point of not starting, pag umaandar nga lng e sluggish ung takbo to the point of parang nabasa ng langis ung sparkplugs, I checked the plus, it was dry, i re-adjusted my ignition timing, still the same, I had it checked, d din ma pinpoint ng mechanic sira (4AGE 20V S/T engine ko pala), then out of desparation I tried some fuel injection cleaner and I doubled the dosage :-), after a few minutes sobrang pulido agad takbo ng engine ko, better than before the problem started, so if you're asking kung may remedyo pa sa clogged fuel lines, personally I think yes without changing parts.

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    yup, pakiradam ko po is fuel pump, but when it chech, maayos pa! And lakas pa elctricity. Our driver mechanic said na, baka my grounded daw, kasi pumuputok yung fuse ng fuel pump!

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    Kanina umaga when we open and check the fuel pump, we test the motor pump, ayos naman, umaandar, also some parts, but napansin namin na medyo may part na sunog na sunog dun sa wire ng fuel pump!! why kaya nagkaganun? Hindi siya fuel pump, so electrical problem po kaya? in what part po kaya meron grounded?

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    update ko lang po mga sir! May sira na raw po motor ng fuel pump ko, explain nya is , pag umiinit na fuel pump motor, yung ang nag caucause ng pag putok ng fuse! Wala naman grounded! Solution nya is, i-convert na yung fuel pump ko sa universal pump, so ilalabas o ilalagay na yung fuel pump ko sa hood near at fuel filter. Ayos lang po ba kung ipa-convert ko nalang?? Mahal kasi ng brandnew fuel pump na electronic, it cost P6k! Sa universal, cost me at 1k only!

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lakas redondo, pero ayaw po magstart!!