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  1. Join Date
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    Met the inventor of Per'tua additive, John Simon. He claims his product is different from other oil additives since it polarizes the metals thus causing "like poles" (as in magnets) which tend to keep apart.

    Not a viscosity improver so no base oil carrier, rather uses synthetic additives. Works in as little as 10 minutes from the time you add it and can last even after several oil changes.

    I mentioned the claims of other US oil additives, eg, slick 50, duralube, etc, which were found to be false when replicated by a consumer group and subsequently fined.

    He said his product is licensed in the US under "Tribotech". A third party test was done wherein oil was removed from engine and run for several hours- meaning it passed the claims.

    Any users of this per'tua additive on the forum? Would like to know your experience with it- both good and bad!

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    yup, met jun simon looong time ago. did he show you the psi testing machine where you put some additive and compress the metal to see at what psi it chokes up? We tried that on our fleet of cars, trucks, and forklifts. With the forklifts especially, we have a scheduled change oil every 200 hours, as recommended by petron. What we did was conduct an oil test at 200 hours, and 300 hours. Sabi kasi ng petron noon (when we exclusively get the diesel and bunker fuel from them), free ang lab testing ng oil nila. This time, we didn't tell them that the oil we were testing contained additive. At 300 hours, they recommended that the oil is still good to be used, no oil change needed, although there was 1 forklift unit that had deteriorated oil quality, but we concluded it was because the engine was about to go on overhaul.
    Also applied it on my 89 16V corolla. Using Petron mineral based multigrade, I normally change oil every 5K, noticing thicker viscosity when you check the oil driping from the dipstick. Then on succeeding oil change, had pertua in, checked it UP TO 10K, the oil still dripped well! Eventually changed oil at 12K. But on succeeding, maintained it at 10K. But that was long time ago, wala na ang 16V ko, binili ng junk shop after I totalled it one day.

    THAT WAS THEN. When our motorpool made a comment one day that pertua didn't look and feel the same, we decided to stop using (partly also when their supplier had some theft issue with mr simon's agent). One day, another supplier using the same equipment, showed up. We conducted several on the spot tests, including an old bottle of pertua we had on stock. Tama nga suspecha namin, it's not the same!! Don't think it was a fake, kasi we still got it from the local supplier. Bottom line is that maybe mr simon succumbed to the pressure of his own success and diluted or changed his formula. Pertua is still around in our place, but we won't touch it anymore.
    Last edited by altec; September 19th, 2004 at 09:54 AM.

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    i saw it on TV and was impressed
    i never tried it, im using PET (yellow can) once a year.

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    Ako I still follow the manufacturer's recommendation that oil additives are bad for your car's health.

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    I don't use oil additives either. Sayang pera.

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    I used to use these oil additives.

    Now I'd rather change oil regularly and use synthetic oil.

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    sir dvdlock... any comments about this additive? use by apache helicopters daw in the US.

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    Any company that use B.S marketing claims like that and cannot provide a basic MSDS or list of additives in the product is to be avoided at all cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Any company that use B.S marketing claims like that and cannot provide a basic MSDS or list of additives in the product is to be avoided at all cost.
    I used pertua with other brand of engine treatment additives in my car (hyundai excel model 95 ex-taxi) before. since its an old car my brother in law thought that it was already overhauled because 'malakas humatak'. Considering the mileage of the car ako rin hanga sa makina. Now, i make it a point to put engine treatment additive once a year on my kia sportage and also my captiva. iba -iba ang brand ng additive, hopefully one of them works, hehehe. i might also use pertua again pero sabi ni Altec may pagkakaiba daw dun sa mga unang labas n pertua.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECG View Post
    i saw it on TV and was impressed
    i never tried it, im using PET (yellow can) once a year.
    Sir goodmorning. i know you posted this 8 years ago pa haha.
    Yung dad ko kasi, sabi niya lalagyan niya daw ng PET yung car namin, diesel fed.
    Ok lang ba sir if pwede ako humingi ng link how the product looks like? packaging, etc.
    Honestly, hindi ko naabutan yung product na ito and sabi niya, it works daw.

    Yung PERTUA sir, saan po nakakabili nun? I looked it in the net and nasa metal can container siya.
    Can be easily spotted since malaki naman yung label.

    Thanks sir!

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    If you really want to add oil additive, i would suggest get liqui moly mos2 nalang. At least mos2 is scientifically proven to reduce friction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    If you really want to add oil additive, i would suggest get liqui moly mos2 nalang. At least mos2 is scientifically proven to reduce friction.

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    Gusto ko din try liquimoly sir e, however may stock kasi ako ng idemitsu 5w40 dito haha.
    Dad ko din kasi nagsabi sa akin ng PET. Effective daw yun haha. I dont know the real score though.

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    ive tried it on our old cars... 3 mitsubishi, opel, 2 nissan, parang ibang iba talaga i can feel the difference sa engine noise, vibration, torque... pero nung i tried it on our new vehichles wala ako napancin na pagkakaiba..... pang old vehicles lang siguro effective to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    ive tried it on our old cars... 3 mitsubishi, opel, 2 nissan, parang ibang iba talaga i can feel the difference sa engine noise, vibration, torque... pero nung i tried it on our new vehichles wala ako napancin na pagkakaiba..... pang old vehicles lang siguro effective to...
    feel ko ganyan din mangyayari sa amin sir e. ang pagkakaalala ko, ginamitan ng dad ko yung lite ace namin noon at yung corolla namin. pero those cars are old na. 1996 yung corolla and 1994 ata yung lite ace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    Gusto ko din try liquimoly sir e, however may stock kasi ako ng idemitsu 5w40 dito haha.
    Dad ko din kasi nagsabi sa akin ng PET. Effective daw yun haha. I dont know the real score though.
    Sir additive din yung liquimoly mos2. Hindi engine oil

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    try nyo dynalube. malupet itong additives na ito. ihalo mo lang sa ordinary oil magiging fully synthetic na. extended up to 10k kms ang life cycle ng langis. very affordable pa. pwd sa transmission at differential. or sa transaxle at power steering. search nyo sa net yung dynalube. DynaLube - The Ultimate In Lubrication Technology

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    Quote Originally Posted by batangtalyer View Post
    try nyo dynalube. malupet itong additives na ito. ihalo mo lang sa ordinary oil magiging fully synthetic na. extended up to 10k kms ang life cycle ng langis. very affordable pa. pwd sa transmission at differential. or sa transaxle at power steering. search nyo sa net yung dynalube. DynaLube - The Ultimate In Lubrication Technology
    sir dvldoc.... any comments regarding dynalube.... looks impressive.....

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    ano nanaman tong binuhay niyong thead, walong taon ng nakalibing a.

    another additives blah blah...

    hindi paba sapat yung nuvi-nuvi at alien oil?
    Last edited by piscesboy; July 15th, 2012 at 04:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    Sir additive din yung liquimoly mos2. Hindi engine oil

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    alam ko sir oil yun e. 10w40
    are you pertaining to ceratec and benzin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    alam ko sir oil yun e. 10w40
    are you pertaining to ceratec and benzin?
    Nope. May mos2 oil additive pa. Iba sa ceratec

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