advice on engine overhaul or surplus ?

[kyoudaiai]

boss ano po suggest ninyo ..
san po maganda reputation ng shop para sa overhaul ?
o kung bibili kami ng engine sa surplus shop san ba mas ok bumilli?
HYUNDAI 3.3 V6 po sasakyan ko...

need help .. thank you

[GTi]

Top overhaul lang o general overhaul? First time maoverhaul? If you think the engine was well taken cared of then maybe you can try overhaul first lalo na kung top overhaul lang naman.

Hassle ang engine swap. You have to make sure the engine you get is good, have to make sure it is properly installed, and have to do change engine paperwork at the freakin' LTO.

Taga saan ka ba? QC area kasi ako. I have most of my mechanical work done at Class A Motorcraft at Retiro near Banawe.

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[argee0503]

Top overhaul lang o general overhaul? First time maoverhaul? If you think the engine was well taken cared of then maybe you can try overhaul first lalo na kung top overhaul lang naman.

Hassle ang engine swap. You have to make sure the engine you get is good, have to make sure it is properly installed, and have to do change engine paperwork at the freakin' LTO.

Taga saan ka ba? QC area kasi ako. I have most of my mechanical work done at Class A Motorcraft at Retiro near Banawe.

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mukhang same problem ako, complete overhaul daw needed pero sobra mahal quote ng CASA, san ba may marunong for Kia cars (Rio 2012 1.4AT)

[mda]

mukhang same problem ako, complete overhaul daw needed pero sobra mahal quote ng CASA, san ba may marunong for Kia cars (Rio 2012 1.4AT)

Why would a relatively new car need a complete overhaul?

[StockEngine]

are there any symptoms that need to be addressed? ano mileage? baka timing chain tensioner lng?

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[kyoudaiai]

are there any symptoms that need to be addressed? ano mileage? baka timing chain tensioner lng?

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general overhaul. the oil filter did blow up while on NLEX then now it sounds like the bearing was shot. I've attached video for the sound now.

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[Janemar]

general overhaul. the oil filter did blow up while on NLEX then now it sounds like the bearing was shot. I've attached video for the sound now.

1 March 217 - YouTube

I've heard the clip and YES that is rod knock. It wont affect anything, idle, power, etc especially at this point. My advice, no matter how tempting it is. Don't drive or turn on the engine.

Sometimes, you can get away with just a simple rod bearing replacement with a simple/slight knock. If you continue to use it and wait to make the knock more audible, you could be looking at replacing the crankshaft, conrod and oil pump.

Have it trailered to Fronte in Banawe na lang. Once stop shop, mechanics are good and the sell Hyundai parts.

Good luck!

[barako ba ma]

Idiots do the same exact things, the same exact conditions, the same exact parameters over and over and expect a different result.

Determine the cause of the symptom before deciding to tear the engine apart. And when the inevitable happens to tear the engine apart, study it carefully, document it to prevent making the mistake or recurrence of the symptoms. Do not just replace with or damaged parts. Do not be that neanderthal.

[DanSparky]

Idiots do the same exact things, the same exact conditions, the same exact parameters over and over and expect a different result.

Determine the cause of the symptom before deciding to tear the engine apart. And when the inevitable happens to tear the engine apart, study it carefully, document it to prevent making the mistake or recurrence of the symptoms. Do not just replace with or damaged parts. Do not be that neanderthal.

Love this. lol

[StockEngine]

oil filter blew? damn!

good luck bro

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[GTi]

Whoa! Ilan na mileage neto bro? This generation of Sonata is very rare in the Philippines. But I do know there is a Tsikoteer who owns a 3.3 Sonata in the States and has racked up IIRC, over 300tkms already and is still going strong.

IMHO engine transplant should be a last resort considering the hassle and cost involved. And do factor in whether the total cost of repair is worth it versus the total value of the car. This model has very low resale value in the country...

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[kyoudaiai]

Whoa! Ilan na mileage neto bro? This generation of Sonata is very rare in the Philippines. But I do know there is a Tsikoteer who owns a 3.3 Sonata in the States and has racked up IIRC, over 300tkms already and is still going strong.

IMHO engine transplant should be a last resort considering the hassle and cost involved. And do factor in whether the total cost of repair is worth it versus the total value of the car. This model has very low resale value in the country...

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160,000km mileage car was going very strong before this filter thing happen.

[StockEngine]

mineral oil gamit bro? oil pump probably seized kaya nag vaporize and pressurized thru the oil filter? thats my theory..

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[kyoudaiai]

mineral oil gamit bro? oil pump probably seized kaya nag vaporize and pressurized thru the oil filter? thats my theory..

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pump is ok, fully synthetic oil but the filter itself broke into 3 pieces. leading to no oil pressure which caused the break down.

[StockEngine]

filter failure lng? hyundai oem? pcv napalitan?

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[barako ba ma]

The oil filter was probably over pressured. There is a pressure relief valve in the line between the oil pump and the oil filter, if this is stuck closed, that's what is going to happen.

[kyoudaiai]

Car is still running and no overheating (though I didn't run it for long just short distance) the only symptom that I've now is that sound that comes on 2,000 RPM onwards. anyway I'm taking it to casa tomorrow which will be checking the valve train and the oil cycle first before tearing down into the engine.

[desertst0rm]

The noise sounds like a lose chain slamming on the sprocket. As oil pressure builds up the tensioner increase tension to remove the chain slack. Pudpod na yung ngipin ng tensioner nag nag aaply ng tension sa chain pag bumaba oil pressure. A bad bearing produce a continuous knocking noise.


Maghanap ka ng shop ng may ganitong tools:
Engine Stand
Micrometer
Dial Indicator
Torque Wrench
Torque Angle Gauge
Straight Edge
Oil Pressure Gauge

Hydrodynamic type bearing ang gamit sa engine hindi ball/roller type bearing. Nakalutang sa oil yung shaft.

[James Garcia]

Hi, where can I buy a new cylinder head assembly for my father's Nissan KA24DE engine for his Nissan presage 1998 model (U30) na mura. I tried surplus sa banawe isa lang ang nag quote. Thanks.

[derfoj]

Overhauled my 95 Hyundai Grace van with 4BDAS engine upon advise of my trusted and reliable mechanic and finished just today. I find the engine very nice after the overhaul compared to the 22 year old engine then. Breaking it in starting today and injection pump will be retimed next saturday. It took 10 days for all the work from disassembly, machine shop (4 days), buying of spare parts and assembly courtesy of my ever reliable and trusted mechanic friend.

Decided to have it overhauled due to noises coming from the engine and the temperature seems to be on the high side most of the time. Not on the overheating range but constantly on the high side especially when traversing inclines.

Got the van imported from korea around September 2007. Upon opening the engine, we found out that it had been top overhauled once. Now it was totally overhauled after 130K kms and 22 years of engine life.

Expenses in PHP as per below:

1 set Cylinder Head Assembly 4D56 14500
1 set Engine Parts 4D56 15000
1 Lot Machine Shop Works 14500
1 Lot Engine Works (Assembly/Disassembly) 8300
1 pc Crankshaft Pulley 1900
1 set Overhaul Gasket 1800
1 Lot Diesel Oil 972
4 pcs 1 Liter Coolant 600
1 pc Alternator Hose 350
2 pcs Gasket Beta Grey(Gasket/Sealant) 300
1 pc Power Steering Fan Belt 300
1 pc Oil Filter 250
1 pc Power Steering Fluid 150
1 pc Cement Sealant 100
1 Lot Screws 15
Total 59037

Bloody expensive. Hope the engine will last for at least ten years and more.