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  1. Join Date
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    Baka meron na naka experience sa inyo. My ride is a 1994 lancer glxi. Last monday, on the way to work all is normal..but when a bus suddenly swerved in front of me, napa preno ako bigla at sabay busina..biglang namatay yung makina. akala ko medyo nabigla lang so i started the engine..okay naman. it happened again sa buendia, ng may taxi nag cut so preno sabay busina, namatay ulit. i called my friend na mechanic at pareho din kami ng car. sabi sa akin, same problem daw kami at pinalitan nya yung hydrovac nya. so that's what i did, since 20 years na rin yung car at di pa napalitan yung hydrovac. but when i changed yung hydrovac, satisfied naman ako kasi mas malakas na ang preno nya at kahit biglain ko pag preno okay sya. little did i know, sa busina pala..nung may tumawid bigla na pedestrian at bumisina ako ng 5 seconds biglang namatay ulit makina. pumarada ako sa shoulder tapos pinatay ko aircon at binusina ko ulit for 5 seconds, bumaba ang rpm hangang namatay makina. i went to my suking electrician..pinalitan namin busina. ganun pa din ang issue, we isolated the electrical line tapos dinerekta nya sa battery yung busina para gumana pero namatay pa rin makina. di ko alam kung ano problema, all is normal idling, lights, etc..wala ako check engine. may volt meter ako sa car nag cha charge naman alternator, hope you can help me mga sirs. thanks in advance.

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    #2
    Mukhang pinaparusahan ka ng oto mo sa pagbabad sa busina. 5 seconds is too long.

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    #3
    Try mo sumigaw ng matagal, baka kapusin ka din ng hininga..

    Seriously, check the horn relay. Must be a grounded contacts or sorts of leak in the horn wiring..

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    #4
    o kaya magpainstall ka ng air horn na lang yung mga binebenta bago mag new year na tig P20. walang hassle sa electrical system mo yun. hehe

    kidding aside, mayrong problema nga sa circuit ng horn. usually sa load circuit. patingin mo na lang uli kay manong electrician. battery, fuse, relay, switch at load (horn) lang naman ang components ng horn circuit...

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    #5
    Para ma-isolate mo yung steering wheel switch at horn relay, lagay ka ng separate relay and switch. Negative triggered, temporary kabit mo micro-switch/push-button sa dash using duct tape, then simulate mo ang 5 secs beeeep.. Kung resulted to same prob, yun namang main wire papunta busina ang palitan mo.. Kung lahat mo na napalitan at same prob, baka mahina na ang alternator brush at palyado na rin ang battery mo..

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    #6
    Battery pa check mo, saka alternator kaya ka namamatayan.

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    #7
    sir dapat hindi po busina pinalitan mo. yung auto tapos kinabit mo yung lumang busina sa bagong auto. joke hehehehe.

    sir, agree ako kay boss manila block its either the alternator and/or the battery.

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    #8
    yung busina mo ba hindi yung air horn type na may air pump pa?

    may ganun ako dati mas malakas pa sa bus bumusina... binabad ko din hanggang nasira air pump

    seriously wiring issue yan and all others stated above
    Last edited by jodski; February 12th, 2014 at 10:23 PM.

  9. Join Date
    Aug 2003
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    Thanks mga sirs sa advice. I will have it re-check kay manong electrician. Baka nga pwede pangalingan ay yung battery, kasi 3 years na mahigit..and yung alternator ko the last time i have it checked was 5 years ago. by the way, hindi na po pinabili sa akin ni manong electrician yung bagong busina, kasi same issue pa rin..balik ako old horn (hella-snail horn). Maraming salamat po..

  10. Join Date
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    #10
    Quote Originally Posted by autobahn View Post
    Baka meron na naka experience sa inyo. My ride is a 1994 lancer glxi. Last monday, on the way to work all is normal..but when a bus suddenly swerved in front of me, napa preno ako bigla at sabay busina..biglang namatay yung makina. akala ko medyo nabigla lang so i started the engine..okay naman. it happened again sa buendia, ng may taxi nag cut so preno sabay busina, namatay ulit. i called my friend na mechanic at pareho din kami ng car. sabi sa akin, same problem daw kami at pinalitan nya yung hydrovac nya. so that's what i did, since 20 years na rin yung car at di pa napalitan yung hydrovac. but when i changed yung hydrovac, satisfied naman ako kasi mas malakas na ang preno nya at kahit biglain ko pag preno okay sya. little did i know, sa busina pala..nung may tumawid bigla na pedestrian at bumisina ako ng 5 seconds biglang namatay ulit makina. pumarada ako sa shoulder tapos pinatay ko aircon at binusina ko ulit for 5 seconds, bumaba ang rpm hangang namatay makina. i went to my suking electrician..pinalitan namin busina. ganun pa din ang issue, we isolated the electrical line tapos dinerekta nya sa battery yung busina para gumana pero namatay pa rin makina. di ko alam kung ano problema, all is normal idling, lights, etc..wala ako check engine. may volt meter ako sa car nag cha charge naman alternator, hope you can help me mga sirs. thanks in advance.
    Kung na start mo after namatay engine,then hindi battery problem,check the wiring all the way mula busina hanggang steering wheel mo,or better do a test,rekta mo muna busina and observe kung namatay engine mo

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    #11
    baka naiingayan ang engine

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    #12
    solution dyan is hwag bubusina ng matagal.... parang pinipitik pitik lang.....
    seriously, it can be the grounding or the horn relay.

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    #13
    Pa-bless mo kotse mo boss.



    Joke lang po.

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    #14
    amphere meter dapat nilagay mo para malaman mo kung bumabagsak ang amperahe o lakas ng baterya mo kapag bumubusina ka..

    tanggalin mo ang busina at subuka mong lagyan ng 2wires at paandarin mo tsikot mo saka mo i rekta ang busina sa + at - ng baterya mo.kapag namatay malamang mahina na baterya mo..
    kapag hindi naman namatay malamang sa electrical wiring ng busina mo may grounded

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    Aug 2003
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    Sirs, sorry for the late reply. Medyo busy sa work at kaka-isip ng possible causes and fix regarding sa problem ko. Here are the things I have done for the past 8 days:

    1. Replaced the old battery with a new one- since mahina redondo ng starter pag umaga and 3 years and 2 mos. na rin. But I still experience the same problem.

    2. I bypassed the original wiring. Nagkabit ako ng new relay malapit sa battery (yung electrician sa + ng battery kumuha ng power source), hinanap yung horn button switch wire tapos pinutol na ang linya sa original wiring, at dinugtong ang bagong linya ng horn sa button switch wire. Kumbaga isolated na yung original, at new wiring na busina. - Same problem pa rin. But this time- intermittent sya, sometimes kahit ibusina mo ng matagal hindi namamatay makina, or nag drop ang rpm..pero pag minsan, 2 seconds lang mo honk yung horn-bumabagsak ang rpm and eventually the engine will die.

    3. Replaced Hi-Tension Wires (since 4 years old na and may visible arcing when i checked it last Thursday night) - same problem pa rin.

    I have checked my grounding -okay naman; the wires going to the ignition switch and ecu-hindi naman mainit and intact pa rin. I've read several forums sa when I search google that are similar with my problem kaya lang walang resolution information. It is really a puzzle, if i turn on for example the headlights, signal lights, hazard, wipers, aircon hindi naman nag drop ang rpm ko katulad ng pag nag bubusina. nakakatawa pa, pag naka engage ang aircon-hindi namamatay/drop ang rpm pag binubusina mo. so really weird. pina-check ko na sa aircon shop na pinagpagawaan ko ng aircon ko prior to this problem I am encountering-ang sabi wala sila nagalaw na electrical line. Meron ba kayong kakilala na electrical expert on efi engines? Thanks in advance.

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    hanap ka iba electrician, meron kase mas magaling gumawa sa iba. baka di naman expert elekrisyan mo kase dapat kung bihasa yaan alam niya at madali nya ma trace problema mo baket ganiyan namamatay kapag nag bubusina ka. kapag nauurat ako sa mga gagong driver higit pa sa 5 segundo kung businahan ko e, hindi naman namamatay traktora ko.

Engine stalls pag nag busina ng matagal