Freeing the Alternator Load

[drey]

Hello tsikoteers,

I am hungry for answers again... Anyway, I don't know if this is on the right forum pero here goes,.. Yung alternator ko po ay kumakain ng kuryente right? The greater the use of the alternator, the greater it will use the engines power...

I have questions... What are some aftermarket replacements can you actually replace to lessen the load of your alternator? For example, changing to led's...

[alwayz_yummy]

alternator is the generator of electricity of your van...

ako, i prefer mine, 90AH(min--idle speed) 120AH(max--revving)--walang bitin sa kuryente lalo na sa full load (high beams, fogs, high wiper, audio, at power socket....)

kung palit ka since liteace sa yo, consider mo magkakasya sa makina mo with lesser modification sa bracket monting..but remember, 90AH lang max mo pwede ilagay, susunugin stock wiring mo if mahigit 90AH...

[meledson]

THe alternator is one one that generates electricity in your vehicle. This is used to charge the battery and to supply electrical power.

Ideally, the alternator should be able to supply electricity to all your electronics and engine. If not, you will drain the batttery and kill (damage due to deep discharge) it.

If you will heavily upgrade your audio (and or video) system, you might have to upgrade the altenator and battery.

[4JGtootsie]

The alternator's rated amperage is measured based on your car's stock electrical requirement based on the oem accesories it has. So if you retain everything and dont upgrade there is no reason to get a higher ampere alt or replace anything that has been in your car since it came out the manufacturing plant.

A good battery recommended by the manual will help your alternator from working harder than it should. While a a routine check and regular replacement of belt will prolong the power and life of your battery.

An alternator with a higher amperage will be harder to turn and the engine and belts will not be happy with this.

[drey]

Okay, I missed the definition of the alternator... Mali pala ako. What was I thinking. :hihihi:

Anyway, since tataas ang idle ko if loaded ang alternator due to it's use... How can I lower the load of my alternator? Can I use LED's instead for the cabin light and tail light? What other aftermarket products being sold that would help?

[meledson]

Okay, I missed the definition of the alternator... Mali pala ako. What was I thinking. :hihihi:

Anyway, since tataas ang idle ko if loaded ang alternator due to it's use... How can I lower the load of my alternator? Can I use LED's instead for the cabin light and tail light? What other aftermarket products being sold that would help?

Mas malakas na mag load sa makina ang aircon kaysa sa alternator. Unless of course super ang ginawang upgrade sa audio system and lights

LEDs are low power devices (needs lower currest than bulbs), last longer than bulbs, and sturdier than bulbs. One option is to change some of the bulbs to LED if there are plug-in replacements (no modifications needed).

[VtEC]

alternator is the generator of electricity of your van...

ako, i prefer mine, 90AH(min--idle speed) 120AH(max--revving)--walang bitin sa kuryente lalo na sa full load (high beams, fogs, high wiper, audio, at power socket....)

kung palit ka since liteace sa yo, consider mo magkakasya sa makina mo with lesser modification sa bracket monting..but remember, 90AH lang max mo pwede ilagay, susunugin stock wiring mo if mahigit 90AH...

well said bro.

though you can still use higher than 90AH as long as your overcurrent protection is intact (that is your fuse box) or else your wirings will be toasted.changing fuse size is also not a good idea without upgrading the wires as well.

[alwayz_yummy]

leds are best dito: (i use leds din)

park-lights (refer to avatar--LED yan), if you can get double contact LED, good for the brake/tail-park light(eto ang hinahanap ko--i need 4 of these), cheek lights, interior lights, guage illumination (use white LED di mo magugustuhan ang colored LED for your guage)...

using LED on your reverse well, ok lang din, pero, WALA road illumination! well, they're bright to look at click here, visible talaga (sorry for the resolution)

and dont put LED on your signal lights, it the flasher relay will consider your lights BUSTED and will flash rapidly (no when you turn on the hazzard ha)

better kung makakuha ka nga ng 90AH alternator--wala ka nakaba nun..

[alwayz_yummy]

well said bro.

though you can still use higher than 90AH as long as your overcurrent protection is intact (that is your fuse box) or else your wirings will be toasted.changing fuse size is also not a good idea without upgrading the wires as well.

kaya ako naging suki ng alternator shop ko sa quirino avenue, kasi sila nagsabi sa akin nun....tsaka suki na din ng dad ho..hehehe, swerte lang ako sa alternator, galing benz diesel kaya 90-120AH!

so far, mga 10 years ko na ginagamit yung surplus na alternator na yun..sulit na sulit....kaya lahat ng electrical probs ko na di ko madiagnose dun ko pinapagawa tried and tested...

[wewoy_romero]

so leds are a good idea. maganda pala palitan mga stock bulbs ko ng leds para at least may ma-offload sa alternator kahit konti.

aside from led bulbs, what else?

[alwayz_yummy]

HID...

have an all-in-1 AV or audio system...

removing those unnecessary amplifiers, x-overs, neons, tv monitors, wangwang, busina, basta lahat ng extra accessories na luho na....

[VtEC]

better yet stick sa stock accessories

[drey]

*Vtec, pero stock accessories are not using leds. hehehe...

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May horn ba na okay? Yung Xenon Bulbs nga pala?

May leds na benibenta, how will I know if this is for tail or dome light na led?

Ipila na natin ang info's...
1. LED's
2. HID's

[yebo]

basta huwag ka lang gagaya dun sa mga jeepneys na pumapasada ng walang ilaw sa gabi hehehehe! para daw tipid sa crudo kaya di nila on ang ilaw. tipid nga sa diesel, takaw aksidente naman.

imho, yung mga lights sa cabin e minsan lang naman ginagamit, di na need palitan ng led mga yun. just keep them off.

[drey]

Maganda leds ata sa cabin... Mas brighter...

[VtEC]

*Vtec, pero stock accessories are not using leds. hehehe...

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May horn ba na okay? Yung Xenon Bulbs nga pala?

May leds na benibenta, how will I know if this is for tail or dome light na led?

Ipila na natin ang info's...
1. LED's
2. HID's

sir Drey nalito ako, diba ang thread ay it's all about unloading the alternator?
since yong stock alternator ay designed don sa stock loads so there's no need to unload diba + the tolerance kaya pwede kapa actually magdagdag.kasi its within the capacity nya yong mga susuplyan nya.now kung gusto mopa mag unload i suggest i under rate mo lahat ng accessories like the one you are suggesting, changing the bulbs to LED's.

[alwayz_yummy]

cabin LED lights--iba yun sa labas.. malalaman mo yun..ngayon depende sa car/vehicle kung anu cabin light--may peanut, may parang maliit na tube, may bago ngayon na 5-14LED for the cabin light, etc....pero, as i said kanina, and as i shown--LED are good as markers, but LEDs cannot match the illumination of a standard bulb... thats why in my cabin, i use my polarg white bulbs... i have LEDs 2, but i replaced it with the polarg becuse it gave me and my passengers a hard time reading maps at night.pag nagkita tayo i'll show it to you.

basta:

1. LEDs and HID's--pwede mo HID are: front-rear fogs(kasi di mo naman ginagamit sa flash) and low beam(for quad light set-up..pag double filament(H4,etc) wag ka HID--maawa ka sa kasalubong

2. good wiring and grounding

3. remove any unecessary electrical components like ampli, xovers, subs, 2nd -Nth monitor...

4.horn--well, just have a relay..having 1 is right, 2 if--you have a stock and an airhorn or mitsuba turbine(elephant horn)--para may casual at "pang-PUV" use...remove/forget the 3rd horn...

5.opt to have an all-in one AV or audio system..

6.forget intalling neons and the like

[drey]

I was thinking kasi, the lesser the alternator generates power maybe it will give you a lesser idle which might also give you better FC.

Many people have enjoyed even getting 5% more fuel mileage.

What my Liteace have right now are 11 year old bulbs... It may no longer be efficient and as technology goes farther to improve efficiency of electricity and longer life just like LED's, siguro may application din ito for our vehicles.

I don't think na madadagdagan ang load, kasi 1.5v lang ang LED's sa pagkakaalam ko.

[alwayz_yummy]

nope 12V din ang LEd only that it consumes .5-2 watts while generating the same brightness..but not the same illumination. LEDs that can provide illumination are much expensive,e...

and no, size and pulley of the alternator is the key factor--kung malaki masyado ang dimension ng alternator--di mo mafifit ng maayos sa engine...pero unsually, 90AH alternators are stock in some engines, especially in diesels, kaya merong makukuha,e...pulley is the key factor--pag lumaki sa stock pulley mo, may prob ka, kung masyadong lumiit, prob din, dapat pareho lang ng original..

at kung lesser alternator, lesser din ang power..smaller alternator gives smaller electricity--just like a small motor which can give only accomodate a small load...

to compute--dapat total AH mo should not be greater or equal to rated load ng alternator mo, kung di, ddrain mo battery mo..give atleast 50-60% allowance so that the alternator can charge your battery...

[drey]

12 volts rin pala... Nakita ko kasi sa Cat Eye Mountain Bike bulbs na 1.5v.

Anyway, compared sa normal bulbs... Ilan ang wattage nito?