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  1. Join Date
    Aug 2006
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    #1
    Mga sirs,

    May kinalaman ba ang contact point at condenser sa pag baba ng rpm everytime I open my headlights?

    Heres the scenario...since kalilipat lang namin ng bahay at wala pang kilalang trusted mechanic sa lugar, sinubukan kong magpatune up sa isang talyer nearby at pinabili ako ng mekaniko ng contact point at condenser, nung nilagay na un binili ko ay ayaw mag-start at inabot kami ng hapon sa pag troubleshoot. Mantakin nyo, simpleng tune-up lang inabot ako ng isang araw sa talyer at kaya lang umistart ang auto ay binalik nya ang lumang pyesa at sinabi sa kin na sira daw parehas un nabili kong contact point at condenser, hehe, samantalang nakakahon pa ang mga un...biruin nyo P400 ang nalagas sa kin dahil hnde ko na naman masosoli un kasi pinutol na nya at pinagdugtong...siraniko ata ang napuntahan ko.

    Anyways, after that napansin ko sa twing bubuksan ang HL ay bumababa rpm ko na dati namang hinde. Battery ko po ay 10 mos old pa lang (Motolite Enduro) at months before ako magpatune-up sa siranikong un ay pinacheck ko pa sa electrical shop sa dating lugar namin ang alternator ko at maayos naman daw na kumakarga.

    So, Im wondering if possible culprit po ba ang contact point at condenser since itong luma pa din ang nakakabit? Or does it have something to do with the battery at kelangan kong ipacheck kung kumakarga pa? Ive read some posts po kasi dito na wala pang 1 yr batteries nila pero bumigay na...too bad, around 3k pa naman ang bili ko dun last august.


    Your immediate response would be very much appreciated. Thanks

  2. Join Date
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    #2
    Quote Originally Posted by AcidBurn View Post
    Mga sirs,

    May kinalaman ba ang contact point at condenser sa pag baba ng rpm everytime I open my headlights?

    Heres the scenario...since kalilipat lang namin ng bahay at wala pang kilalang trusted mechanic sa lugar, sinubukan kong magpatune up sa isang talyer nearby at pinabili ako ng mekaniko ng contact point at condenser, nung nilagay na un binili ko ay ayaw mag-start at inabot kami ng hapon sa pag troubleshoot. Mantakin nyo, simpleng tune-up lang inabot ako ng isang araw sa talyer at kaya lang umistart ang auto ay binalik nya ang lumang pyesa at sinabi sa kin na sira daw parehas un nabili kong contact point at condenser...biruin nyo P400 ang nalagas sa kin dahil hnde ko na naman masosoli un kasi pinutol na nya at pinagdugtong...siraniko ata ang napuntahan ko.

    Anyways, after that napansin ko sa twing bubuksan ang HL ay bumababa rpm ko na dati namang hinde. Battery ko po ay 10 mos old pa lang (Motolite Enduro) at months before ako magpatune-up sa siranikong un ay pinacheck ko pa sa electrical shop sa dating lugar namin ang alternator ko at maayos naman daw na kumakarga.

    So, Im wondering if possible culprit po ba ang contact point at condenser since itong luma pa din ang nakakabit? Or does it have something to do with the battery at kelangan kong ipacheck kung kumakarga pa? Ive read some posts po kasi dito na wala pang 1 yr batteries nila pero bumigay na...too bad, around 3k pa naman ang bili ko dun last august.


    Your immediate response would be very much appreciated. Thanks
    sorry for what happened to you wasting about a day of your life because of incompetent "mechanic". lessons learned:1- do not just trust any tom, dick or harry who has busted and greasy knuckles who knows how to turn a screwdriver, 2- you get what you pay for, 3- look for some kind of certification of training, diploma or positive reputation if you do not know this "mechanic", 4-even with an engine that still runs on points and the "mechanic" turns to guess and hope (try to guess the problem and hope you fixed it), how much more if the vehicle runs on computer aided network (CAN BUS), then it would take a miracle and a lot of prayers to figure out. the dropping of idle speed is more than likely a result of the alternator trying to produce more current to the now low in charge battery from failed attempts to start the car for as you mentioned around the whole day to figure out or guess and wait for luck

  3. Join Date
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    Noted sir jick. I thought the job would be a snap of a finger for him since maraming sasakyan nagpapagawa (or nagpapasira) sa taong un. Mas oks pa ata kung sa gasoline station na lang muna ako magpatune up habang wala pang kilalang matinong mekaniko sa lugar.

    Bale ang sinasabi mo ay walang kinalaman ang lumang contact point / condenser sa problema at ang battery ko na hinde na masyadong kumakarga ang possible culprit, tama po ba?


    Thanks sa reply boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcidBurn View Post
    Noted sir jick. I thought the job would be a snap of a finger for him since maraming sasakyan nagpapagawa (or nagpapasira) sa taong un. Mas oks pa ata kung sa gasoline station na lang muna ako magpatune up habang wala pang kilalang matinong mekaniko sa lugar.

    Bale ang sinasabi mo ay walang kinalaman ang lumang contact point / condenser sa problema at ang battery ko na hinde na masyadong kumakarga ang possible culprit, tama po ba?


    Thanks sa reply boss

    retest with a fully charged battery. if the idle speed still drops drastically, there is a problem with the battery or the ability of the alternator to charge. as with the tune up, i.e. ignition both primary and secondary circuits, fuel pressure and volume, air induction and charging and starting system checks should have been done. carburetor base idle, fast idle speed and idle speed actuator be adjusted per repair manual

  5. Join Date
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    #5
    Sorry for what happened to you. Jick is right don't trust any mechanic.
    Your problem could be a low alternator output or the idle adjustment by the master mechanic is too low.

  6. Join Date
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    #6
    Sir, up ko lang po uli tong thread. Just had my battery and alternator checked in a nearby motolite shop this morning and the results are maayos naman daw kumakarga ang baterya at alternator ko...ilang beses sya nagtrouble shoot while on ang a/c, on ang HL then of ang a/c and HL...pero kumakarga pa rin naman daw ng tama ang alternator at battery.

    What could be the culprit sa pagbaba ng rpm everytime I open my HL...or normal lang po ba talaga na bumaba around 2 guhit ang rpm pag nagbukas ng headlights (from 900 to 700)? And sometimes pa ay parang paos ang busina...pero minsan naman hinde :-(

    Needs more advise sir kung ano pa mga dapat ipacheck sa auto. TIA

Is it contact point, condenser or battery ang problema??