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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    Good to know you have sorted it!
    The alternator usually use 6 diodes (for 3 phase). It's difficult to check diodes in-circuit. Mahirap gawin pero madali mo sanang natrobleshoot ang problem kung na-isolate mo ang mga ito.

    Tips for alternator troubleshooting:1. low/intermittent charging - carbon brushes. 2. if bad ic reg. - overcharging depende sa ckt config. Kung ako may-ari niyan at ang problema ay ic, i'll replace the ic with an outboard module with discrete parts, two xtors, one or two zeners, several res and caps, probably two 1A silicon diodes. Syempre, may heatsink ang 2N3055.
    This outboard voltage reg module will outlast the car because it can be repaired without opening the alternator.

    Imo, the last item that could cause the problem is the 3 phase coil due to the # 12awg or better, winding. Possible problem, but not probable.

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    #22
    follow up question lang mga kaibigan....

    since netong huli ko lang nalaman regarding AC volt leakage sa alternators....

    many youtube videos at internet articles say that greater than 0.5 volts AC means a shorted diode.

    kaso yung sa sasakyan ko reads 29.9-31.1 volts AC....

    pero yung DC volts ay ok naman....13.8 - 14.3 VDC

    diko lang nasukat before nung nasira ang diode kung ano ang AC leakage
    Last edited by miked; February 25th, 2016 at 12:22 PM.

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    #23
    after some threads sa internet, marami nagsasabi na dahil daw sa chipipay na multimeters. yun nga siguro. i'll check with fluke or some high end meters sa mga kakilala.

    chipipay lang kasi yung mga multimeters ko. lalu na yung dala dala ko parati sa sasakyan. tamang pang-test lang ng continuity at boltahe.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    follow up question lang mga kaibigan....

    since netong huli ko lang nalaman regarding AC volt leakage sa alternators....

    many youtube videos at internet articles say that greater than 0.5 volts AC means a shorted diode.

    kaso yung sa sasakyan ko reads 29.9-31.1 volts AC....

    pero yung DC volts ay ok naman....13.8 - 14.3 VDC

    diko lang nasukat before nung nasira ang diode kung ano ang AC leakage
    paps, saang terminal mo sinukat yung ac voltage? parang wala naman akong nakikitang ac terminal lines coming out of the alternator? correct me if i'm wrong, di ba puro dc lang output ng alternator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    paps, saang terminal mo sinukat yung ac voltage? parang wala naman akong nakikitang ac terminal lines coming out of the alternator? correct me if i'm wrong, di ba puro dc lang output ng alternator?
    sa battery terminals lang. lipat mo lang yung selector ng multimeter to AC volts.

    yes DC current ang mga sasakyan. may "scholarly discussion" lang kasi akong nabasa sa internet na kapag may tama ang mga diodes ay magleleak ito ng AC voltages sa electricals ng sasakyan. (kasi basically, AC ang napoproduce ng alternator at kinoconvert ito to DC using diodes (rectifier).

    pero i think i can rest my case. dahil lang siguro sa mumurahin kong tester. baka hindi ganito ang reading kung yung mga tipong fluke, klein, etc.

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    #26
    Mga sir baka po matulungan nyo ako.. Honda jazz 2005 matic user.

    one day habang nag ddrive pansin ko parang himihina makina ko while about to stop sa intersection. when i finally stop napansin ko nka ilaw battery light ko sa dash.. not blinking.. as in na ka on lang. so what i did pinatay ko makina.. sori mali ata un. i tried to start pero ayaw kumagat. waited for a few seconds ayun nag start. naipark ko pa yung oto sa office, battery light never went on again.. so akala ko bka glitch lang.

    pauwi ako while driving napansin ko parang kakapusin nnmn makina ko.. so before ito mangyari ni park ko muna sa gas station.. then pag hinto ko ayun na.. umilaw na battery light sa dash, bumagsak rpm ko then namatay makina.. pero i can still see the dash lights. pinatay ko, then restart ok naman pero andun parin battery light sa dash, tapos babagsak rpm then mamatay makina.. pero lights on the dash are still on.

    a friend of mine adjusted the "menor" then he said kapag nka stop ako ilagay ko sa "n" then kadyot konti gas para wag bumagsak yung rpm. after that ni restart ko jazz, battery lights are now off. nag drive nko.. pero pansin ko kakapusin parin makina.. then pag huminto ako ayun mag on ulit battery light then mamatay makina. after restart aandar na.. eventually nakauwi ako.. sobrang kabado sa slex.

    im planning to have my battery checked, pero kakabili ko lang nito eh. ibabalik ko dun sa binilhan ko para ma check nila.. you think alternator issue na ito mga sir?

    sori sa mahabang istorya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nashimoto View Post
    Mga sir baka po matulungan nyo ako.. Honda jazz 2005 matic user.

    one day habang nag ddrive pansin ko parang himihina makina ko while about to stop sa intersection. when i finally stop napansin ko nka ilaw battery light ko sa dash.. not blinking.. as in na ka on lang. so what i did pinatay ko makina.. sori mali ata un. i tried to start pero ayaw kumagat. waited for a few seconds ayun nag start. naipark ko pa yung oto sa office, battery light never went on again.. so akala ko bka glitch lang.

    pauwi ako while driving napansin ko parang kakapusin nnmn makina ko.. so before ito mangyari ni park ko muna sa gas station.. then pag hinto ko ayun na.. umilaw na battery light sa dash, bumagsak rpm ko then namatay makina.. pero i can still see the dash lights. pinatay ko, then restart ok naman pero andun parin battery light sa dash, tapos babagsak rpm then mamatay makina.. pero lights on the dash are still on.

    a friend of mine adjusted the "menor" then he said kapag nka stop ako ilagay ko sa "n" then kadyot konti gas para wag bumagsak yung rpm. after that ni restart ko jazz, battery lights are now off. nag drive nko.. pero pansin ko kakapusin parin makina.. then pag huminto ako ayun mag on ulit battery light then mamatay makina. after restart aandar na.. eventually nakauwi ako.. sobrang kabado sa slex.

    im planning to have my battery checked, pero kakabili ko lang nito eh. ibabalik ko dun sa binilhan ko para ma check nila.. you think alternator issue na ito mga sir?

    sori sa mahabang istorya.
    pinakamaiging gawin mo ay ipascan mo sa honda.

    papano iaadjust ang idle speed nyan? di bat drive by wire na mga iyan? o may cable pa rin sa throttle?

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    pinakamaiging gawin mo ay ipascan mo sa honda.

    papano iaadjust ang idle speed nyan? di bat drive by wire na mga iyan? o may cable pa rin sa throttle?
    may cable parin po ata..

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by nashimoto View Post
    may cable parin po ata..
    may problema siguro sa idle air control valve.....maybe.

    may DIY ways naman available sa youtube kung pano icheck at linisan ang IACV

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    #30
    so hindi po alterbator issue agad?

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