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    #531
    Baka you will end up "You Get What You Pay For". China is China pa rin at ang quality is really substandard pa ngayon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    No its not replicas... original daw yun...

    not sure lang kung dun din galing yung outlast at motolite na binibenta dito satin...

    pero dba ang outlast at motolite is a local company?

    grabe nga ang mura...

    siguro mag test buy pala ako... then try ko sa mga sasakyan namin...

    test ko kung same quality din...

    then ill also check kung ginagawang AMARON BATTERY DUN...

    tamang tama pala most probably pumunta ako ng Guangzhou sa 14-15... sa Canton Fair (China Import and Export Fair)

    baka may mga BATTERY manufacturers dun....

    LIKE AMARON

    sabi nga nila... GOD MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH and everything else is made in china...

    Sir manikis, wala ako nakitang nagbebenta ng battery last year sa canton fair. naghanap din kasi ako dun. may nakita ako dun solar powered aircon. pero tingin ko magkaka issue tayo sa quality with that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelany View Post
    Baka you will end up "You Get What You Pay For". China is China pa rin at ang quality is really substandard pa ngayon.
    hindi naman lahat...

    IMO sa tagal tagal nang gumagawa ng china ng mga produkto nila... like in our case CUMMINS POWER GENERATORS...

    what we observe is almost ma perfect na or 99% na pagdating sa quality... pag pinatakbo mo cant see any difference sa output, oil and fuel consumption, etc..

    and also the plant in china that make china made gensets is licensed and authorized by cummins USA to manufacture and build gensets that is in accordance with cummins global quality standards....

    pareho din siguro sa ibang producto...

    and besides like for eg. US MADE CUMMINS... engines and generators is also made in china...

    sabi nila LAHAT DAW U.S. PARTs BUT assembled in china... hindi totoo yun.. ang made in USA lang dun eh yung engine block and the cylinder head... and everything else is made in china na... alternator or dynamo, nozzle, injection pump etc... V16 ENGINES...

    the difference in metalurgy between the US AND CHINA made cummins is a thin line... in our opinion if US made gensets will last for 20 years... china made gensets will last for 19.5 years.... it is even used for continuous operation 24/7

    pero pag dating sa price... ALMOST half lang ang price ng CHINA made cummins...

    ang PROLEMA lang talaga sa china... madaming gumagawa ng fake.... baka fake ang mabile nyo...

    Kaya always buy from a trusted seller....

    and maybe ganun din sa ibang products na galing china...

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    #534
    Meron din ok sa China made lalo na kung big foreign company na nag set up sa China. Medami parin na maski famous brand like Black And Decker yung quality na China made ay hindi comparable sa ibang bansa na gawa. If you have suking tindahan na talagang ka kilala mo na hindi nila i ooffer yung china made kung meron silang ibang made na parehong brand.
    Swertihan na nga lang.

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    #535
    Quote Originally Posted by nelany View Post
    Meron din ok sa China made lalo na kung big foreign company na nag set up sa China. Medami parin na maski famous brand like Black And Decker yung quality na China made ay hindi comparable sa ibang bansa na gawa. If you have suking tindahan na talagang ka kilala mo na hindi nila i ooffer yung china made kung meron silang ibang made na parehong brand.
    Swertihan na nga lang.
    ang problem sa china is yung mga fly by night na factories. yung mga maliliit na factories na gumagawa ng fake items.

    but bigger factories, mostly good standard naman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    hindi naman lahat...

    IMO sa tagal tagal nang gumagawa ng china ng mga produkto nila... like in our case CUMMINS POWER GENERATORS...

    what we observe is almost ma perfect na or 99% na pagdating sa quality... pag pinatakbo mo cant see any difference sa output, oil and fuel consumption, etc..

    and also the plant in china that make china made gensets is licensed and authorized by cummins USA to manufacture and build gensets that is in accordance with cummins global quality standards....

    pareho din siguro sa ibang producto...

    and besides like for eg. US MADE CUMMINS... engines and generators is also made in china...

    sabi nila LAHAT DAW U.S. PARTs BUT assembled in china... hindi totoo yun.. ang made in USA lang dun eh yung engine block and the cylinder head... and everything else is made in china na... alternator or dynamo, nozzle, injection pump etc... V16 ENGINES...

    the difference in metalurgy between the US AND CHINA made cummins is a thin line... in our opinion if US made gensets will last for 20 years... china made gensets will last for 19.5 years.... it is even used for continuous operation 24/7

    pero pag dating sa price... ALMOST half lang ang price ng CHINA made cummins...

    ang PROLEMA lang talaga sa china... madaming gumagawa ng fake.... baka fake ang mabile nyo...

    Kaya always buy from a trusted seller....

    and maybe ganun din sa ibang products na galing china...

    nagka issue ako dati dyan sir manikis dati pagbili ng cummins genset i think i already mentioned to you before. cummins ung engine but alternator is a different brand.... undersize ung alternator hindi match sa power ng engine. kaya since then maingat na ako sa pagbili lalo na cummins genset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    nagka issue ako dati dyan sir manikis dati pagbili ng cummins genset i think i already mentioned to you before. cummins ung engine but alternator is a different brand.... undersize ung alternator hindi match sa power ng engine. kaya since then maingat na ako sa pagbili lalo na cummins genset.
    o.t.lang mga sir ha..

    most of the time ang undersize nila eh yung engine...

    you can request for a load bank..... para makita ang actual output nung genset...

    baka sir fake din yung alternator na gamit...

    pag dating sa alternator request mo to use marathon... wala pang fake na lumalabas sa china...

    stamford ang madaming fake... one way to know is... dapat metal plate hindi sticker (pero may metal plate din lang na bibile)... another one sa loob ng alternator pag binuksan mo dapat ang gamit na avr eh depende na din sa size nung genset....

    OR to be 100% SURE... sakin ka nalang bumile...

    CRAZY BOY... tama ka dyan ang dami kasing fly by night factories sa china...


    IMO dati talaga MAYBE 8yrs. ago.. hindi talaga maganda ang quality ng china made...

    but now its a different story....

    yung BATTERY na china brand that i posted here... maganda talaga ang quality nun...

    kahit 6months ata namin hindi gamitin yung genset... hindi talaga basta basta na lolowbat...

    maganda din ang feedback from our customers... its better daw sa mga local batteries dito satin...

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    #538
    I have a lot of experiences dyan sa China factories at hindi fly by night company. Iba parin yung mentality nila sa quality. There is no such thing as 6sigma concept sa kanila. Maski TS16949 certified company sila ang dami pari speke sa linya nila.

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    #539
    Quote Originally Posted by nelany View Post
    I have a lot of experiences dyan sa China factories at hindi fly by night company. Iba parin yung mentality nila sa quality. There is no such thing as 6sigma concept sa kanila. Maski TS16949 certified company sila ang dami pari speke sa linya nila.
    Highly possible yan. Kahit nga government certificates kaya bayaran e.

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    #540
    This is a 3rd party automotive certifying bodies na malabo na mabayaran pero yung quality ng planta ay dubious pa rin.

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