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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by ecozone View Post
    but come to think of it, how come bus operators nowadays are switching to chinese bus?
    No they are not switching, mas prefer pa rin nila ang mga locally made at korean made buses

    Mas mura ang Chinese buses, aircon luxury bus cost 6-7M. May option naman ang mga bus operator kung jap engines or chinese engine ang ilalagay.

    Chinese engines (Yuchai, Wechai, Chinese Cummins etc) are crap.

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    #82
    may nakita ako clone ng super grandia. langhiya, mas mahaba pa ung clone sa original grandia.

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    #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    may nakita ako clone ng super grandia. langhiya, mas mahaba pa ung clone sa original grandia.
    i SAw one too... AT toyota commonwealth..... naka display sa labas.... ang sabi re-baged lang daw yun... it means straight toyota pero ang emblem lang daw ang pinagkaiba at syempre pati yung price.... super ganda yung vip model nila.... check nyo sa fb nyo joylong van ata...

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    #84
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    i SAw one too... AT toyota commonwealth..... naka display sa labas.... ang sabi re-baged lang daw yun... it means straight toyota pero ang emblem lang daw ang pinagkaiba at syempre pati yung price.... super ganda yung vip model nila.... check nyo sa fb nyo joylong van ata...

    tama. may nakasulat na joylong sa bandang side roof ng van. pero toyota ang logo.

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    #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    tama. may nakasulat na joylong sa bandang side roof ng van. pero toyota ang logo.
    sir toyota grandia din daw yun... rebadge lang... katulad ng mb100 re rebadge na ssyanyong istana..

    kaya nga daw sa toyota din naka display.... meron ganun din model ang toyota... mas mahaba at mataas sa grandia... pareho kaya talaga lahat pati engine? toyota parts din talaga kaya? parang nakaka temp..

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    #86
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    i SAw one too... AT toyota commonwealth..... naka display sa labas.... ang sabi re-baged lang daw yun... it means straight toyota pero ang emblem lang daw ang pinagkaiba at syempre pati yung price.... super ganda yung vip model nila.... check nyo sa fb nyo joylong van ata...
    The exterior looks acceptable. The interior ... meh. Mukha pa rin cheap.

    And mahal siya. More than 1.3M ang alam ko.

    And 1.xM for a Chinese car? No thanks.

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    #87
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    sir toyota grandia din daw yun... rebadge lang... katulad ng mb100 re rebadge na ssyanyong istana..

    kaya nga daw sa toyota din naka display.... meron ganun din model ang toyota... mas mahaba at mataas sa grandia... pareho kaya talaga lahat pati engine? toyota parts din talaga kaya? parang nakaka temp..
    ganon ba bro? eh baka hindi naman talagang clone ito. I'll check it out with toyota dealer. Btw, magkano SRP ng Joylong?

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    #88
    JMC YUSHENG

    ford engine - diesel
    mitsubishi engine - gas

    crdi engine 2.4 na kaya na type ko.. malaki siya parang montero .. ok na rin naman ang quality ng china cars
    may naka usap kasi ako agent ng jmc china cars sa visayaz na sinabi merun daw sila darating suv... search lang ako yan nga siguru yun .. kung sakaling merun mag lalabas ako niyan .. ok rin naman siya..masyado kasi mahal ang montero yan nalang siguru sakali partner naman nila ang ford.. kaya tiwala na rin ako

    exterior




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    more picture of jmc yusheng









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    #90
    Quote Originally Posted by jrn29 View Post
    more picture of jmc yusheng








    parang napaka simple instrumentation panel nya...sa steering hindi sila naglagay ng buttons kahit na para sa car stereo man lang. at parang walang aircon panel sa likod.

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    #91
    well at least China can mass produce decent-looking automobiles even if not exactly Japan or Korea quality

    eh ang Pinas?


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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    well at least China can mass produce decent-looking automobiles even if not exactly Japan or Korea quality

    eh ang Pinas?

    Wow, actually the best quality Jeepney Ive ever seen.

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    #93
    haha

    well... alam ng lahat you hate china cars

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    #94
    Quote Originally Posted by rollyic View Post
    parang napaka simple instrumentation panel nya...sa steering hindi sila naglagay ng buttons kahit na para sa car stereo man lang. at parang walang aircon panel sa likod.
    haha eh anu ba naman hahanapin mo.. sa steering control buttons.. eh mura lang ata yan..
    nasa 700-800 thou lng ata RAW? .. touckscreen /gps 2din naman na
    sa aircon.. 5 seaters lang kasi yan.. baka. me dual aircon siguru hindi naman sila papayag pumalpak ang design nila.kasi nag papakilala pa lang sila. merun din kasing 7 seaters niyan

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    LINCOLN TOWN CAR VS. HONGQI LIMO

    This one is actually not a copy, since Ford supplied parts to HongQi thru a CKD scheme.



    Quote Originally Posted by April Boy View Post
    Kia besta van and Hyundai Starex look like the Mazda powervan and Mitsu Spacegear respectively.
    Those were actually license-made. BTW the Kia J2 engine resembles a lot the Nissan TD27...



    Quote Originally Posted by ecozone View Post
    BMW Gran Coupe vs Brilliance BS4



    Zhongua, the manufacturer of Brilliance cars, actually has a partnership deal with BMW.



    Quote Originally Posted by hein View Post

    60 years na gumagawa ang China ng cars. Sablay pa rin talaga ang quality.

    Na-overtake pa sila ng Koreans.
    These older Chinese vehicles were actually based in Russian models. BTW some of those Russian upper-class vehicles had its drivelines copied from Ford and Chrysler, while the Lada cars were initially license-made versions of the Fiat 124.

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    #96
    60 years na gumagawa ang China ng cars. Sablay pa rin talaga ang quality.

    Na-overtake pa sila ng Koreans.
    matagal na din gumagawa ng sasakyan ang pinoy

    hanggang ngayon jeepney, owner, AUV parin ang kaya gawin

    wala pa nga Tata Nano equivalent ang Pinas

    na-overtake ng India ang Pinas
    Last edited by uls; February 3rd, 2012 at 01:58 PM.

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    #97
    Ayun nga. Before, South Korea was a very poor country. They started late in the auto industry and copied off old Japanese designs. Now they are among the best car manufacturers in Asia, even starting to rival the Americans and Europeans. Before, Taiwan was also a poor country. But look at their Luxgen line of SUVs and MPVs and you'll be utterly amazed And then like Thailand they manufacture lots of vehicles too what with numerous Mitsubishi, Nissan, Honda and Ford high end models being made there. And all this was achieved even with much hampering from China to isolate Taiwan's international success. Then there's China. Disgusting as their car making methods may be, they have at least evolved. Now starting to venture into making their own designs and engines (though the basic technology is still adopted). And then even fielding participants in the Dakar Rally (though there are rumors that the Great Wall vehicles were in fact cloned BMWs ). The Philippines was once among the top countries in Asia, ranking second to Japan. And now we are still doing the same thing. Even the more modern AUVs (Anfra) have died out and only jeepneys are left along with a handful of car assembling plants and even the number of models being assembled are going down with our inability to produce the higher class vehicles and most of our parts supply dependent on Thailand. On a side note though, that Starex-Jeepney looks really good. I wonder what engine it uses and how it looks like inside? At least it made the effort to make itself look good, just look at the horrendous condition of the jeepneys in Metro Manila!

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    #98
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    haha

    well... alam ng lahat you hate china cars
    Actually, Im not against Chinese cars. Im against Poor Quality.

    In 8-10 years, they should be at par with the Koreans.

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    #99
    yung ibang japanese car brands pala naka tie up sa china? thats is why china is producing copy cats of the japanese vehichles...
    i think it means that the cars that china are producing is the same car that the some japanese brands are selling....
    i think they are one and the same.... kaya pala ang sabi nung freind ko na naka chinese made car(joylong) parehong pareho daw ang parts ng van nila sa japanese made one(toyota grandia).... if you will look closer dun sa mga parts ng van nya you can also see the japanese car logo na katabi yung logo ng joylong... and he first saw the joylong van na nakadisplay sa labas ng toyota commonwealth..
    any toyota grandia owners here? can you look at your windshield, alternator, balljoint etc. if meron nga bang toyota and joylong logo or any chinese car logo?

    if meron logo din po ng joylong or any chinese car brand baka po nga it is one and the same.... may ibang parts lang na toyota talaga... kung baga halo halo po....

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    China is a large country that has also a large demand for cars, including some higher-end ones but also the cheapest and lower-quality stuff ever. Designing a body is the easiest part, but until they start to develop their own engines they will still use outdated Japanese engine projects...

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