Starting a family business, need help po tsikoteers

[RF02]

Hi ma'am and sir!

few months earlier po kasi may binigay samin na lupa.
ayaw ko naman ibenta ito dahil sayang lang at naisip kong mag full time nalang sa future family business.


need help po sana dahil first time ko po mag mamanage ng business at willing po ko matuto at mag stop sa current work matutukan lang po yun itatayong business ko po.

ang choices ko po sana eh yung may mga experiences yun parents ko at yun gf ko (ako lang wala experience sa sariling negosyo )


1. taniman (may isang lupa kasi dun na may irigation at continuos yun tanim at harvest) kaso least priority ko ito dahil nandun na ito ongoing na sya eh gusto ko sana mag start ng sarili naming negosyo

2. piggery

3. poultry

4. any suggestions po na pwedeng idagdag sa list?



sa current situation po ng bansa natin ngayon, at sa technology available ano po kaya pinaka BEST at tingin nyo po mag boboom na negosyo kung gagawin po namin sya next year probably 2-3 quarter po?


yun lupa po eh may malayo sa mga barrio at kalsada yun iba naman eh along the road kaya makakapili po depende sa negosyo

maraming salamat po ^____^

[jhnkvn]

As a serial entepreneur, ito lang masasabi ko. Every business idea will be incubated for months mainly because you need to study how the business works and answer questions like "who are your customers?", "who are your suppliers?", and "what are the processes involved?" Once you have an idea then it's time to get excited and execute it. Even if you aren't excited, you need to be since it's your capital and time you're risking. Wala ka time para maging tamad.

If you have no experience with those three options but still want to enter those options, then find a way to get experience. Work for somebody else in that industry for a year or two then start your own - by then you should already know the rough gist on how the business works and maybe even poach a trusty co-worker or two. If not, you need to hire or partner with somebody who can.

My criteria for doing business is that there should always be somebody who's value-adding. The reason why restaurants are usually made of multiple partners is because it's for promotion's sake - the fact that five different families can invite families within their circle is way better than just one person doing the invites.

Oh, and get a mentor. Even your dad will have lots of business acumen that he accumulated over the years. If not, find one. Maging desperado ka -- kahit dad ng wife/GF mo would be a great candidate.

[1D4LV]

sa akin, its not the choice of what you are going to do.
you have to love what you are doing and make it profitable.
and since family business yan, may study and masinsinang paguusap yan..... mahirap dyan magsisihan.

[Syuryuken]

since livestocks ang gusto mo ask someone from BMEG malaki ang maitutulong nila sayo.

[Ry_Tower]

Punta ka sa approriate gov't agencies. May mga brochures and seminars sila for a particular business that you have mentioned. They will be of good help.

[jodski]

Don't decide too early to give up your steady income day job for that hanggat hindi mo nararamdaman na steady stream income mo

For item 1 - study kung ano crops mabilis mabenta and don't stick to one. It has maintenance cost para sa mga pesticide and fertilizer pero bago mo pa maisipan yan unahin mo muna mabakuran ng maayos yung lot. Mas mahirap na peste yung nangunguha ng tanim sa madaling araw. You also need a katiwala to do the rounds andcheck on the crops...

For item 2 and 3 - may requirement na dapat wala ka sa residential area bago ka makapagpatayo ng poultry or piggery. You need to invest sa infra ng water source mo tsaka yung power sprayer for cleaning. Its a good idea na maghanap ka na ng mapagkakatiwalaang veterenarian to check your alaga. Huwag manghinayang na may huhukayin ka dyan na pit para tambakan ng dumi and you need to invest sa gamot para hindi mangamiy yung pit mo. Ika nga its consideration to your neighboors kasi nakaka trigger ng asthma and other lung condition ang amoy nyan. If ever nga pala malapit ka sa may ilog or bodies of water like deep well you can kiss that idea goodbye...


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[RF02]

maraming salamat po sa lahat ng sumagot,
all points noted po. napakalaking tulong po nito sakin

*jhnkvn
thanks so much may naisip ako bigla sir if ever po may mapili nang business ok din po kayang iwork experience ko yun mismong actual business namin? parang kasama ako lagi sa area with hired na tagapamahala (in the future ako papalit sa pwesto nya or imaintain ko sya kung mapagkakatiwalaan talaga sa business.)

*1D4LV
haha yun tama ka po sir kaya nga sir eh mahilig ako kumain ng chicken and pig.
kaya bukod sa family business pwede ko rin sya gawing source ng another business sa super far future let's say resto or mini kainan na puro pig at chicken lang ang food

*Syuryuken and Ry_Tower
noted mga sir, pero ang problem ano po kaya sa kanila ang maganda inigosyo tapos pag may napili saka po ako attend sa seminars etcc tungkol po duon.

* jodski
yun nga po problema sir eh sa current work ko po kasi hindi kkayaning pagsabayin sa business sa mga meetings, collections, site visit and pag pasok sa office eh ubos na oras kaya pag sinimulan itong business magiging twist talaga ito sa buhay ko hehe.
saka gusto ko rin sana magkaron ng sariling hanap buhay habang bata-bata pa po ako ^^

1. about sa crops continuos naman yun crops nila bigas, mais, sibuyas etccc kaso nga lang existing na kasi yun kaya balak ko sana mag start ng something new sa ibang lupa kaya least priority pero kung yun ang mas worth it ibusiness sa choices iffocus ko sya with all my heart...
2. noted sir very informative po yun sinabi nyo, ask ko narin po kung mas mabuti po ba kung yun malalim na pit tapos after tapon tambak ng lupa tapos ulit nalang sa susunod na tapon ng dumi hanggang sa matakpan yun pit tapos hukay ulit sa next part near sa pit?
ang naiisip ko pong source ng water dito eh deep well na may motor kasi medyo mataas yun lugar ang alam ko nasa 20 or more meters yun lalim bago may makuhang tubig tapos lalalim pa yun pag taginit

[confused shoes]

Develop the existing business your parents have. Start with the market.

[jhnkvn]

*jhnkvn
thanks so much may naisip ako bigla sir if ever po may mapili nang business ok din po kayang iwork experience ko yun mismong actual business namin? parang kasama ako lagi sa area with hired na tagapamahala (in the future ako papalit sa pwesto nya or imaintain ko sya kung mapagkakatiwalaan talaga sa business.)

Unfortunately, wala ako alam sa agri-food business so I can't comment on it. It's not my area of expertise after all so I can only give general advice.

Your business is yours alone. You can hire a manager but it's still essential that you're involved sa day-to-day operations. Your manager can leave, but you can't since you're vested in your business so take matters into your own hands.

I also highly recommend getting a mentor. The reason for this is that it saves you a lot of "hidden" costs in the industry. Knowing what to do when a problem pops out and acting decisively is quite important in a business rather than floundering around to try to fix the situation. What you primarily lose here is time -- and that's arguably more important then money. In our experience, it's easier on the wallet over the long-run if you simply hire a person with experience and learning under him rather than trying to save money by not hiring and simply doing it yourself.

Reading the comments, I find very enlightening answers from fellow tsikoteers. For example I wholeheartedly agree kay jut, most businesses I know that aren't hands-on will fail. That's why I'm on-leave sa group namin since I'm trying to enter the retail sector just waiting for January to finish the papers since I hate paying double registration fees in the city hall and BIR. Though since wala ako masyado ginagawa sa December, my mind's wandering to other businesses nanaman :naughty2: for example, iinisip ko magstart ng autoblog as a sideline (it's something which I contacted Niky na for his advice).

Still, the point is that you should know how to focus. If gagawin mo lang sideline lang yun business, let's say franchise ng Master Siomai, kahit hindi ka full-time okay lang since the business process is there na. Mayroon systema nakalagay na so kahit wala ka, umiikot parin. You can easily balance that type of "businesses" with your day job.

However, if it's a budding family business you're talking about. You will need to commit eventually. Maybe not at the start when it's mostly paperworks, learnings, and approvals. But when the ball is rolling, you need to start focusing. Also pay attention to shadow's post. That's your land -- only you will eventually know what to do with it.

Another important question is "how do I start?" For that, isa lang masasabi ko. Fulfill a need. You do not enter a business and expect it to be a success of the bat. In fact, before we start a business we usually have committed customers already in line. This is how most of our country's taipans start. If you know a rich family who owns a paper mill, it is a great idea to ask if they need an upstream (distribution and retail) or downstream (raw material supplier) "partner" and start from there.

For example, in putting up my retail, I already informed friends and family alike of my intentions to enter into the sportswear industry. So when the time they need the product, pumunta kayo saakin wag sa iba. While you will get critics kahit ano gawin mo.. remember that marketing is still marketing.. do it shamelessly. (P.S. Kung sino may kilalang retail store manager dyan preferably one who works at a shopping center, kindly PM his/her details to me )

Another example is the case of our coal import business, the #1 customer is us. It first started out as a need to lower the cost of raw materials for better margins on the parent company - this led us to negotiate with coal producers from other countries. Eventually, we entered into a contract agreement with an Indonesian coal company to supply us coal. Now for the effort done - negotiations, ports, logistics, warehousing, etc. savings namin per kilogram isn't big.. it's just mere cents. But these savings pile up over time and I'm pretty sure saving a Vios or two is worth the headache. Because not only do we save but we also open an opportunity to spin it off into another business. Of course, when your opponent is Semirara which is considered a monopoly in the domestic market (they produce more than 90% of total coal production in the country) don't really expect it to grow that big

[Manilablock]

Since malaki naman un lupa mo, try mo hollow blocks, manufacture ka, stock pile mo lang, pag meron bumili puro maramihan.

No worries din kun wala kang mabenta agad, ayusin mo lang ang ratio ng cement sa buhangin para hindi sha madali madurog.

[RF02]

Since malaki naman un lupa mo, try mo hollow blocks, manufacture ka, stock pile mo lang, pag meron bumili puro maramihan.

No worries din kun wala kang mabenta agad, ayusin mo lang ang ratio ng cement sa buhangin para hindi sha madali madurog.

nakausap ko na yun friend ko na nasa ganyang business medyo malulugi ako sir sa trucking kasi most ng kalaban na chb suppliers eh may warehouse or yun mismong pagawaan eh nasa metro manila so wala silang toll fees kaya nakaka bid sila ng lower price compare sa mga nasa labas ng metro manila...

since nasa ilocos banda yun mga lupa madugong toll fees at gastos sa diesel at gulong ito na sure ball makakaapekto sa price per chb

pero thanks sa input sir appreciated much ^___^

[shadow]

The best experience is for you to go though it. If it fails, that's an experience, if its a success that's also an experience. Don't think about all those business plan/study. That's all crap.

Ikaw lang nakakaalam Kung ano maganda itayo diyan sa lupa ninyo. We don't even know where is it located. So lahat bg mababasa long suggestion dito kung among business dapat, walang kwenta.

Don't over think, Just go for it.

[CVT]

I assume that the parcel of land is near to where you are staying now....

If it is very far, I suggest you should mull on selling it and use the money instead for some other business ventures. That is, unless you have the moolah for the gas (cheap nowadays) and toll (expensive) and the time and energy to manage the business in that property.... Or, relocate to that area.


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[TholitzReloaded]

I'm also planning to put up my own business, any LPG Dealers here? I'm thinking of setting up one in our neighborhood medyo bago ang subdivision namin and I think i have an advantage. I just need some inputs from existing dealers/owners. \

What are the things that I need to consider? so far I can see na palaki ng palaki ang subdivision namin from Phase 1 to Phase 6 na ngayon, I have access to the list of all the household living inside the subdivision since I will be developing the payment system for the subdivisions water bills. I've also created a facebook page para sa homeowners which I think can also be used as channel for marketing. Monitoring planning to develop/setup a simple app which will allow me to monitor ung mga sales ko and to do follow ups kung mauubos na ang gas tank (proactive measure), willing to give freebies din say for every 3 consecutive refills you get something in return.

These are my ideas, if anyone can give me other considerations please do post it.. will really help a lot, especially dun sa mga may experience na.

TIA.

[TholitzReloaded]

I'm also planning to put up my own business, any LPG Dealers here? I'm thinking of setting up one in our neighborhood medyo bago ang subdivision namin and I think i have an advantage. I just need some inputs from existing dealers/owners. \

What are the things that I need to consider? so far I can see na palaki ng palaki ang subdivision namin from Phase 1 to Phase 6 na ngayon, I have access to the list of all the household living inside the subdivision since I will be developing the payment system for the subdivisions water bills. I've also created a facebook page para sa homeowners which I think can also be used as channel for marketing. Monitoring planning to develop/setup a simple app which will allow me to monitor ung mga sales ko and to do follow ups kung mauubos na ang gas tank (proactive measure), willing to give freebies din say for every 3 consecutive refills you get something in return.

These are my ideas, if anyone can give me other considerations please do post it.. will really help a lot, especially dun sa mga may experience na.

TIA.

[badkuk]

sir strikto ba yung subdivision nyo? some homeowners may complain about your LPG shop being a fire hazard, etc. etc. Me experience na dati kapatid ko diyan, kahit restaurant lang sa bungad ng subdivision e sinita pa rin ng homeowners association :confused:

[macsd]

I'm also planning to put up my own business, any LPG Dealers here? I'm thinking of setting up one in our neighborhood medyo bago ang subdivision namin and I think i have an advantage. I just need some inputs from existing dealers/owners. \

What are the things that I need to consider? TIA.

For avoidance of future trouble/problem, your LPG storage should be isolated sa residential area aside from the fire safety controls in place.

[TholitzReloaded]

For avoidance of future trouble/problem, your LPG storage should be isolated sa residential area aside from the fire safety controls in place.

Actually di naman strict I have a commercial space na plan ko i-utilize, then ang market ko ung mga adjacent subdivisions.

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For avoidance of future trouble/problem, your LPG storage should be isolated sa residential area aside from the fire safety controls in place.

Actually di naman strict I have a commercial space na plan ko i-utilize, then ang market ko ung mga adjacent subdivisions.

[jodski]

Tama yung idea mo sa pit... Basta may provision ka na wag masyado magkakadikit. And yes from time to time depende na sa iyo kung kailan mo tatambakan ng lupa on top para hindi ka langawin. Magpapagawa ka pa ng canal kasi pangit yan pag malapit sa koral or kulungan ng manok mo.

Wag paabutin sa may deep well or any water source ha kasi kumakatas yan. You will be surprised kung gaano kabilis mapuno yan hehehe may tulong din yan kung magtatanim ka on the side kasi instant fertilizer. Kung sinipag sipag ka pwede mo rin tignan ang option na methane gas powered kalan

Kung sakali egg production i pursue mo. I consider mo na rin na ikaw ang mag deliver via jeep. Hanap ka ng restaurant na pwede mo i deliver supply... May alam ako sa Batangas production nya per day averages 400 trays, hindi pa nya kaya punuan ang demand ng tapa king... Bibili ka rin nga pala ng egg sorter dito
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[RF02]

*cvt
sir yan din una kong naisip ibenta, tapos bili nalang ng pdeng inigosyo, kaso problema sir eh mahirap ibenta ng fair price baka abutin ng taon... kung rush naman uber barat lugi naman sayang yun lupa

medyo malayo sir nasa QC ako yun lupa kalat kalat sa ilocos kaya if ever iddrive ko nalang balikan or mag bus ako or magtayo narin ng bahay near dun para pwede ako mag stay tapos uwian nalang.


*jodski
dami nyo pong ideas mukang nasa ganun or almost ganun ka pong negosyo sir? haha if ever nasa magkano po kaya estimate nyong budget sa piggery or poultry kung starting, rough estimate lang sir para lang may idea po ako ^___^



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