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    WE have a question for Bayan Muna Rep. Teddy Casiño.

    You see, Casiño railed against the House of Representative as being dominated by landlords, warlords, and pawns of big business.

    This he did exactly on the celebration of the 100th anniversary of the lower chamber of Congress.

    If so, Mr. Casiño, why are you there with these same landlords, warlords, and pawns of big business you loath so much?

    That rich irony struck us when we heard him saying his piece over a radio talk show yesterday.

    By the way, do you not come from a family which marginally qualifies as a member of the elite in this country?

    Don’t you think your utterances make you a traitor to your own class and a slight on the reputation and integrity of a few good, brilliant, and truly patriotic members of the House?

    The name of your party list organization means “country first,” but recent events and Bayan Muna activities suggest no patriotic agenda but an ideological one.

    Even your party’s means and methods of campaigning hewed closer to the good, old-fashioned ways of traditional politics — large and expensive streamers, print ads, TV spots, and even using the electronic medium.

    As a leftist campus youth leader, you attacked the aptly called lower House outside the halls of the Batasan, Now you are attacking its integrity from within as a nominee of Bayan Muna.

    As an elected nominee, your main job is to craft meaningful legislation that squares with the literal meaning of your party list organization.

    Now, stop blabbering away worn-out leftist rhetoric and do your job.

    That’s what we taxpayers are paying you for.

    http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?...ec=9&aid=20698

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    The partylist system has lost its meaning and purpose IMO. Except for a very few, most are not really representing the interests of their sectors. Napanood ko sa imbestigador bago election na meron yung mga partylist reps na naka CRV pa na bago..etc. While no one has the right to deny them such perks, para sa akin hindi magandang tignan kung ang ni re represent mo eh mga under priveleged.

    Yung mga na elect din na leftists partylists representatives eh palagi mong makikita sa kalye nag ra rally when they were already given the chance in congress to air their gripes and help craft laws. It is their right to rally and speak out on the streets but if they don't believe in the system that they are currently in right now, they might as well quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonski View Post
    WE have a question for Bayan Muna Rep. Teddy Casiño.

    You see, Casiño railed against the House of Representative as being dominated by landlords, warlords, and pawns of big business.

    This he did exactly on the celebration of the 100th anniversary of the lower chamber of Congress.

    If so, Mr. Casiño, why are you there with these same landlords, warlords, and pawns of big business you loath so much?

    That rich irony struck us when we heard him saying his piece over a radio talk show yesterday.

    By the way, do you not come from a family which marginally qualifies as a member of the elite in this country?

    Don’t you think your utterances make you a traitor to your own class and a slight on the reputation and integrity of a few good, brilliant, and truly patriotic members of the House?

    The name of your party list organization means “country first,” but recent events and Bayan Muna activities suggest no patriotic agenda but an ideological one.

    Even your party’s means and methods of campaigning hewed closer to the good, old-fashioned ways of traditional politics — large and expensive streamers, print ads, TV spots, and even using the electronic medium.

    As a leftist campus youth leader, you attacked the aptly called lower House outside the halls of the Batasan, Now you are attacking its integrity from within as a nominee of Bayan Muna.

    As an elected nominee, your main job is to craft meaningful legislation that squares with the literal meaning of your party list organization.

    Now, stop blabbering away worn-out leftist rhetoric and do your job.

    That’s what we taxpayers are paying you for.

    http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?...ec=9&aid=20698
    well what do you expect from these leftists purveyor of chaos? ang Oso bihisan mo man ng barong tagalog o suit at hayaang makapasok sa kongreso, Oso pa rin yan(di ko po sinasabing animal' siya symbol kasi ng communists ang bear ).

    anyway, party list votes has lost its purpose. a lot of these party list groups does not truly represent the sector they are supposed to represent.

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    sobrang irony nga yan si casino eh, dapat gambling lord sya

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    He should get a real job.

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    party list has lost it meanings, look at the party list of abalos's brother he was supposed to represent yun mga PUV drivers, pero his a doctor, how the hell will a doctor knows the plight of the PUVs?

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    Yan ang hirap sa mga yan e, laging nangunguna sa mga rally against the government now that they were given the chance to make changes wala namang magawa din, hay buhay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    party list has lost it meanings, look at the party list of abalos's brother he was supposed to represent yun mga PUV drivers, pero his a doctor, how the hell will a doctor knows the plight of the PUVs?
    coz doctors clean up their mess from sideswiping pedestrians, to raising the hi-blood of other motorists stuck in traffic to polluting our lungs

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    alam naman ni Teddy Casino ang solusyon sa problema ng mamamayan, pero instead na doing it by himself. sisigawan nya yun mga pulitiko na umayos kayo kasi deep in his heart mga pultiko din gagawa ng gusto nya

    instant taga-utos baga

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    Not to offend anyone or defend Teddy (I known him personally from college days - he was 2 or 4 years younger and we do share the same ideology)....but rather to shed some "possible light" why he probably do those things that some of you find irritatingly wrong or right...

    ...If so, Mr. Casiño, why are you there with these same landlords, warlords, and pawns of big business you loath so much?
    He probably was applying one of the art of war strategies - "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"...

    ..By the way, do you not come from a family which marginally qualifies as a member of the elite in this country?
    In deed he might not be a member of the elite... but he is not from a poor family either. I'd say most of his transformation probably occured during his stay in UPLB. I have to say the "idealogy/ies" he believes on have no boundaries - be rich or poor....

    ...The name of your party list organization means “country first,” but recent events and Bayan Muna activities suggest no patriotic agenda but an ideological one.
    Care to expound which ideological move/s that they/he do, suggest that they were not patriotic enough? May be we can shed some light kung alin ang tingin natin na pangit at mali or alin OR yung mukhang pangit at mali pero will eventually lead to a better future.

    ...well what do you expect from these leftists purveyor of chaos?
    If you are not a "martial law baby"... it would be very difficult to see/differentiate a leftist from somebody who see something that is right or wrong.

    You see, during the "martial law" days, if you speak anything negative or against Marcos or even his "rulings" will initiate possible pagkakakulong or even immediate death (salvaging). Life during those days was soooo difficult... and we wouldn't have our current freedom if all those "leftist and purveyor of chaos" have conceded from the Marcoses during those times.

    The root and beginings of the known "EDSA Revolution" didn't happen nung 1986... it started on what we term "first quarter storm" and that was early 1970's.

    A lot of what you call "leftist" actually evolved (mutated ) during that time. A lot also died, gone missing and never found and some are still up to now a "kalaban ng lipunan" in the bundoks.

    NOBODY wanted that thing to happen but... **** happens.

    I know some ideologies are "extremely" unright and bad... but not all of them. And you do have to give credit that kung walang yung mga events na yun (mga leftist and purveyors of chaos na yun), the marcoses are still probably ruling our country.

    ...a lot of these party list groups does not truly represent the sector they are supposed to represent.
    SADLY, a very true fact...and I hope bayan muna do not succummed to become one them (as what most of you sees them now)...

    ..laging nangunguna sa mga rally against the government now that they were given the chance to make changes wala namang magawa din
    Note that their vote is not that big... in fact the majority of the congress are still "lobbyist" and people with their own agenda on their mind.

    It would be like one person discussing on a rowdy crowd of 200 people of different point of view as theirs... I'm sure mahirap makakuha ng attention sa ganun situasyon.

    To accuse them that they are not doing anything, may be you might want to check these issues:
    1) if they didn't produced any batas during their past tenure,
    2) if they more absent rather than present during congress sessions,
    3) if they were sleeping during the sessions,
    4) if they used their PORK BARREL for their own personal gains,
    5) if they have abused those "8" plates,
    6) if they have multiple body guards na kupal and huge convoys of SUVs when they travel around the city
    7) if they more often "abroad" on trips that are not even official.
    8) if they have "balimbing" ideologies
    etc, etc....

    These are my own point of views on the issue at hand and I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes and offended him/her/them in my post. :peace:

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    naalala ko nun Edsa 2, pag kumakanta na taga-ABS CBN like Gary V and others, dumadami ang crowd, sigawan at talunan pa. pero pag sya na nagsasalita, nagmemeryenda na kami

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    EDSA 2 never had the same spirit as the 1986 EDSA revolt wherein people in the streets were not ususeros but rather people willing to die for the cause they are pursuing.

    Ni wala ngang "entertainment" nuong 1986 EDSA revolt... you run out of food...don't worry someone will pass and share theirs to you....

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    maybe he joined Congress to enact change from within...?

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    I don't think a lot of voters see congress' work as crucial. Other than the budget which often get screwed up anyway, palagay ko nga we have too many laws already (much of which isn't even implemented). Bayan has the second highest number of votes sa party-list probably because a lot of people feel this (as I do). Rather, they get voted as fiscalizers of the admin's propensity to be intolerant and full of as* kissers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered View Post
    maybe he joined Congress to enact change from within...?
    maybe..... i remember my comrades from uplb telling us that if you want to change the system, you have to be involved with the system ( i guess he's talking about the government ) maybe while he's trying to change the system, the system changed him instead.... and it is really hard to change the congress since numbers mean a lot there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildthing View Post
    EDSA 2 never had the same spirit as the 1986 EDSA revolt wherein people in the streets were not ususeros but rather people willing to die for the cause they are pursuing.

    Ni wala ngang "entertainment" nuong 1986 EDSA revolt... you run out of food...don't worry someone will pass and share theirs to you....
    OT:

    Those were the days bro. Idol tayo ng buong mundo. Kahit saan ka pumunta,- sikat ang Pinoy!

    But, we missed this once-in-a-lifetime golden opportunity to really be 'great again'....,- bigtime!

    We have short memory,- never learned from history...

    Sayang!

    2901:pokemon:

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    I consider my politics as right-of-center. Which is why I entered the PMA (buti na lang hindi nagtagal). but even when I was in UP, I abhorred the militants there (especially the LFS). Wala silang ginawa sa Peyups noon kundi mag-rally at magdikit ng mga poster at maging sanhi ng traffic. I don't personally know Teddy Casiño (or Satur Ocampo even) but I'd rather have him in Congress than the likes of De Venecia or Luis Villafuerte (tradpols to the max).

    Remember the Gracchi brothers or Roman yore? Even if they were patricians, they fought for the plebeians. Nasubukan na nilang lumaban galing sa labas, hindi nagtagumpay, so now they're fighting to change the system from within. They also act as good fiscalizers, which is why maingay sila. They were at the forefront against Cha-cha, against the US bases, against the VFA, etc. Sometimes, we forget the little things we oftentimes take for granted. If there's one thing I'm afraid of, its a rubber-stamp Congress.

    Now, it would be a different thing if they're advocating a violent overthrow of the government. Eh hindi naman. Ganyan talaga ang demokrasya. They were elected to their current position, and we should respect that.

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    ano ba talaga Bayan Muna na tinutukoy nyan partylist na yan, mga mahihirap at mga api. kung yun lang ang bayan na pinaglalaban nila, they're selfish. puro sarili lang nila iniisip nila. puro cause nila.

    kasi ang gobyerno para sa lahat mayaman, mahirap, api at nang-aapi. it does not distinguish or differentiate people/groups. kaya blessed are the politicians in congress kahit papano they represent people from one side and people from another.

    that's politics.

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    try to watch the Breach movie. it portrays a different side of the idealists. I fear the idealists more than the politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildthing View Post
    Not to offend anyone or defend Teddy (I known him personally from college days - he was 2 or 4 years younger and we do share the same ideology)....but rather to shed some "possible light" why he probably do those things that some of you find irritatingly wrong or right...



    He probably was applying one of the art of war strategies - "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"...



    In deed he might not be a member of the elite... but he is not from a poor family either. I'd say most of his transformation probably occured during his stay in UPLB. I have to say the "idealogy/ies" he believes on have no boundaries - be rich or poor....



    Care to expound which ideological move/s that they/he do, suggest that they were not patriotic enough? May be we can shed some light kung alin ang tingin natin na pangit at mali or alin OR yung mukhang pangit at mali pero will eventually lead to a better future.



    If you are not a "martial law baby"... it would be very difficult to see/differentiate a leftist from somebody who see something that is right or wrong.

    You see, during the "martial law" days, if you speak anything negative or against Marcos or even his "rulings" will initiate possible pagkakakulong or even immediate death (salvaging). Life during those days was soooo difficult... and we wouldn't have our current freedom if all those "leftist and purveyor of chaos" have conceded from the Marcoses during those times.

    The root and beginings of the known "EDSA Revolution" didn't happen nung 1986... it started on what we term "first quarter storm" and that was early 1970's.

    A lot of what you call "leftist" actually evolved (mutated ) during that time. A lot also died, gone missing and never found and some are still up to now a "kalaban ng lipunan" in the bundoks.

    NOBODY wanted that thing to happen but... **** happens.

    I know some ideologies are "extremely" unright and bad... but not all of them. And you do have to give credit that kung walang yung mga events na yun (mga leftist and purveyors of chaos na yun), the marcoses are still probably ruling our country.



    SADLY, a very true fact...and I hope bayan muna do not succummed to become one them (as what most of you sees them now)...



    Note that their vote is not that big... in fact the majority of the congress are still "lobbyist" and people with their own agenda on their mind.

    It would be like one person discussing on a rowdy crowd of 200 people of different point of view as theirs... I'm sure mahirap makakuha ng attention sa ganun situasyon.

    To accuse them that they are not doing anything, may be you might want to check these issues:
    1) if they didn't produced any batas during their past tenure,
    2) if they more absent rather than present during congress sessions,
    3) if they were sleeping during the sessions,
    4) if they used their PORK BARREL for their own personal gains,
    5) if they have abused those "8" plates,
    6) if they have multiple body guards na kupal and huge convoys of SUVs when they travel around the city
    7) if they more often "abroad" on trips that are not even official.
    8) if they have "balimbing" ideologies
    etc, etc....

    These are my own point of views on the issue at hand and I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes and offended him/her/them in my post. :peace:
    before and during martial law there are those people who are speaking against the govt because they are stating their legitimate grievances like ninoy, chino roces, salonga,manglapus, etc

    and there are also people who protested against the govt because of hidden agenda, these are the communists ideologues and cadres of joma sison.

    i wont hide the fact that im very biased and i hated the communists because my father was a soldier once who battled these communists for so many years, the Huks and the NPA before martial was declared (my father retired from the military before martial law) and i literally grew up inside a military camp. imagine the hardships these soldiers endured, away from their loved ones just to defend our democratic way of life (sadly marcos abused his power and used the military during martial law to for his evil intentions).

    regarding those purveyor of chaos, im talking about those present-day flag waving leftists na walang ginawa kundi magrally sa kalsada. wala na ngang maitulong sa nation building puro perwisyo pa at kaguluhan ang idinudulot. i know that in a democracy it is the right of every filipino to express their opinions (iyan nga ang ipinaglaban ng maraming pilipino eh kasama na ang mga sundalo), pero langya kahit napakaliit na bagay magrarally, dagdag lang sila sa trapik sa kalsada wala namang maidulot na maganda. nakaupo na nga yung iba nilang kasamang leftists sa kongreso, hindi pa ba sapat iyon para maiparating nila sa kinauukulan ang mga hinaing nila? para saan pa at naglagay sa konstitusyon ng party lists?

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    Question lang, bakit pag may "rally" ang mga leftist, full support talaga, ang dami nila ang galing ng logistics! pero pag may mga sakuna ang bayan, e.g. Milenyo, ni hindi sila tumutulong!, daig pa ng mga studyante :-( tapos walang katakot takot sabihin na "para sa bayan" ang pinaglalaban

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