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    guys, i need your help and advise

    yung tenant ng condo unit ng kapatid ko laging delayed ang bayad sa rent and just this week, nalaman namin na disconnected ang kuryente nila and 4 months, going 5 na hindi sila nagbabayad, total bill is almost 22k, wala pa yung this month. tsk tsk... i called meralco to ask bakit umabot sa 5months na hindi nagbabayad eh ngayon lang na disconnect, marami daw ganyan case sa kanila and iba-iba reason, puwedeng nakiusap, or me kakilala, etc...

    what should i do? ako kasi nag aasikaso nito. just now i checked and walang tao sa unit, i have this feeling na bigla na lang silang aalis. nakausap naman namin yesterday at nag promise na sa tuesday daw dadating pera nila, pero lagi silang ganyan, panay promises. hayz masakit sa ulo...

    btw, un 1month deposit nila nagamit na din nila so wala na silang deposit. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just View Post
    guys, i need your help and advise

    yung tenant ng condo unit ng kapatid ko laging delayed ang bayad sa rent and just this week, nalaman namin na disconnected ang kuryente nila and 4 months, going 5 na hindi sila nagbabayad, total bill is almost 22k, wala pa yung this month. tsk tsk... i called meralco to ask bakit umabot sa 5months na hindi nagbabayad eh ngayon lang na disconnect, marami daw ganyan case sa kanila and iba-iba reason, puwedeng nakiusap, or me kakilala, etc...

    what should i do? ako kasi nag aasikaso nito. just now i checked and walang tao sa unit, i have this feeling na bigla na lang silang aalis. nakausap naman namin yesterday at nag promise na sa tuesday daw dadating pera nila, pero lagi silang ganyan, panay promises. hayz masakit sa ulo...

    btw, un 1month deposit nila nagamit na din nila so wala na silang deposit. thanks.

    I suggest just call it a loss and padlock the condo unit so the tenant can not get back in. Then quickly change all the locks too.

    Unfortunately our local laws favor the tenant too much, leaving landlords without much in the way of legal measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just View Post
    guys, i need your help and advise

    yung tenant ng condo unit ng kapatid ko laging delayed ang bayad sa rent and just this week, nalaman namin na disconnected ang kuryente nila and 4 months, going 5 na hindi sila nagbabayad, total bill is almost 22k, wala pa yung this month. tsk tsk... i called meralco to ask bakit umabot sa 5months na hindi nagbabayad eh ngayon lang na disconnect, marami daw ganyan case sa kanila and iba-iba reason, puwedeng nakiusap, or me kakilala, etc...

    what should i do? ako kasi nag aasikaso nito. just now i checked and walang tao sa unit, i have this feeling na bigla na lang silang aalis. nakausap naman namin yesterday at nag promise na sa tuesday daw dadating pera nila, pero lagi silang ganyan, panay promises. hayz masakit sa ulo...

    btw, un 1month deposit nila nagamit na din nila so wala na silang deposit. thanks.

    I suggest just call it a loss and padlock the condo unit so the tenant can not get back in. Then quickly change all the locks too.

    Unfortunately our local laws favor the tenant too much, leaving landlords without much in the way of legal measures.

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    thanks GH.

    ganun na nga siguro, charge to experience na lang.
    btw, pano yung mga gamit nila if i padlock the unit? baka kasi manggulo sila and i don't want this to happen.
    Mas gusto ko sana maayos na lang silang umalis but lagi silang wala sa unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just View Post
    guys, i need your help and advise

    yung tenant ng condo unit ng kapatid ko laging delayed ang bayad sa rent and just this week, nalaman namin na disconnected ang kuryente nila and 4 months, going 5 na hindi sila nagbabayad, total bill is almost 22k, wala pa yung this month. tsk tsk... i called meralco to ask bakit umabot sa 5months na hindi nagbabayad eh ngayon lang na disconnect, marami daw ganyan case sa kanila and iba-iba reason, puwedeng nakiusap, or me kakilala, etc...

    what should i do? ako kasi nag aasikaso nito. just now i checked and walang tao sa unit, i have this feeling na bigla na lang silang aalis. nakausap naman namin yesterday at nag promise na sa tuesday daw dadating pera nila, pero lagi silang ganyan, panay promises. hayz masakit sa ulo...

    btw, un 1month deposit nila nagamit na din nila so wala na silang deposit. thanks.
    do you have a written contract with them? you should first write a demand letter to them to pay the back rentals and to vacate the condo unit, let's say within 30 days from receipt thereof. should they fail to vacate the premises, you go to the office of the Barangay Chairman where the condo is located to settle your dispute. If he/they still do not vacate, you request the Brgy. Chairman to issue a Certification to file action. Then, you secure the services of a lawyer to file a case against them for Unlawful Detainer with Damages. Be it noted however, that this case must be filed within 1 year from the date of your demand letter, and this case is summary in nature, so it is more speedy trial than an ordinary action for recovery of possession of the condo unit. So, take note of the 1 year period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just View Post
    thanks GH.

    ganun na nga siguro, charge to experience na lang.
    btw, pano yung mga gamit nila if i padlock the unit? baka kasi manggulo sila and i don't want this to happen.
    Mas gusto ko sana maayos na lang silang umalis but lagi silang wala sa unit.
    may security guards ba kayo sa condo unit or kahit na caretaker man lang? para maatasan mo na kausapin sila na gusto mo silang makausap at tawagan ka ng caretaker pag andyan sila sa unit. Otherwise, you send the demand letter to their mailbox and to their provincial address. Or pwede mo namang ipa-receive personally yong demand letter to their office/business address.

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    Thanks Galant E SS.

    hindi ko sila nagawan ng contract kasi sa una pa lang nilang lipat, medyo mali na, lumipat sila na nakiusap lang na bukas na ang bayad kasama kapitbahay namin, pumayag naman ako kasi naawa ako sa kanila. in short, di sila nakabigay ng tamang deposit at advance.

    nangako sila na this tuesday daw babayaran meralco bill nila so maybe i'll just wait, sana nga magbayad.

    ang hirap pag naaawa ka sa ibang tao, ikaw ang nagiging kawawa sa huli...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    I suggest just call it a loss and padlock the condo unit so the tenant can not get back in. Then quickly change all the locks too.

    Unfortunately our local laws favor the tenant too much, leaving landlords without much in the way of legal measures.
    I agree. Call it a loss and move forward. Get the condo back on the rental market and find a new tenant immediately. Lesson learned; draw up a contract for the next tenant and you likewise should have rental and utilities deposit which you set aside and return to the tenant when he leaves (unless may arrears on any, or damages to the unit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just View Post
    Thanks Galant E SS.

    hindi ko sila nagawan ng contract kasi sa una pa lang nilang lipat, medyo mali na, lumipat sila na nakiusap lang na bukas na ang bayad kasama kapitbahay namin, pumayag naman ako kasi naawa ako sa kanila. in short, di sila nakabigay ng tamang deposit at advance.
    paktay na!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just View Post
    .... nalaman namin na disconnected ang kuryente nila and 4 months, going 5 na hindi sila nagbabayad, total bill is almost 22k, wala pa yung this month....
    kung prepaid electric meter ang na-install mo, wala sana itong problema

    lagyan mo na ng prepaid electric meter yung mga properties mo for rent


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    Basta wala nang susunod pang pakiusap bro... Malayo na ang kanilang natatakbo na walang bayad (4-5months),- bumabaon lang sila sa utang na baka hindi na nila mabayaran....

    14.6K:dj:

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    kung walang pambayad.....kunin mo yung mga gamit, huwag mo ipalabas pag alis nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    I agree. Call it a loss and move forward. Get the condo back on the rental market and find a new tenant immediately. Lesson learned; draw up a contract for the next tenant and you likewise should have rental and utilities deposit which you set aside and return to the tenant when he leaves (unless may arrears on any, or damages to the unit).
    Yes, Vinj, ganun na nga lang siguro mangyayari. although umaasa pa din ako na magbabayad sila tomorrow as promised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    kung prepaid electric meter ang na-install mo, wala sana itong problema

    lagyan mo na ng prepaid electric meter yung mga properties mo for rent


    isang unit lang naman po ito at sa kapatid ko. anyway, puwede bang maging ganito ang meter nya even if nasa condo? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    Basta wala nang susunod pang pakiusap bro... Malayo na ang kanilang natatakbo na walang bayad (4-5months),- bumabaon lang sila sa utang na baka hindi na nila mabayaran....

    14.6K:dj:
    actually ako mismo nagulat kasi last week ko lang nalaman na going 5months na silang hindi nagbabayad. it only means since nag start sila umupa hindi sila nagbabayad ng electric bill. August 2010 sila lumipat. at ang reason nakakalimutan daw, terrible talaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    kung walang pambayad.....kunin mo yung mga gamit, huwag mo ipalabas pag alis nila.
    ayaw ko ng gawin ito kasi baka magkagulo lang, at sabi din ng guard sa condo, wala din daw masyado gamit sila. semi-furnished po kasi ang unit. if tomorrow hindi pa din magbayad, kausapin ko na lang na umalis kesa lalo lang silang mabaon. Thanks.

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    meron talaga ganyan tao

    they wanna live the lifestyle but dont wanna pay for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just View Post
    isang unit lang naman po ito at sa kapatid ko. anyway, puwede bang maging ganito ang meter nya even if nasa condo? Thanks.
    puede mong gawing sub-meter sa meter mo mismo

    but you have to talk to your condo admin regarding the installation


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just View Post
    Thanks Galant E SS.

    hindi ko sila nagawan ng contract kasi sa una pa lang nilang lipat, medyo mali na, lumipat sila na nakiusap lang na bukas na ang bayad kasama kapitbahay namin, pumayag naman ako kasi naawa ako sa kanila. in short, di sila nakabigay ng tamang deposit at advance.

    nangako sila na this tuesday daw babayaran meralco bill nila so maybe i'll just wait, sana nga magbayad.

    ang hirap pag naaawa ka sa ibang tao, ikaw ang nagiging kawawa sa huli...
    it doesn't matter if you don't have a written contract. just follow my advice as i've said before, as follows: write a demand letter to them, for them to pay the back rentals and to vacate the condo unit, let's say within 30 days from receipt thereof. should they fail to vacate the premises, you go to the office of the Barangay Chairman where the condo is located to settle your dispute. If he/they still do not vacate, you request the Brgy. Chairman to issue a Certification to file action. Then, you secure the services of a lawyer to file a case against them for Unlawful Detainer with Damages. Be it noted however, that this case must be filed within 1 year from the date of your demand letter, and this case is summary in nature, so it is more speedy trial than an ordinary action for recovery of possession of the condo unit. So, take note of the 1 year period.
    don't dare to break open their door and oust their things without a court order. baka mamya, ikaw pa ang makasohan ng civil and/or criminal case at ikaw pa ang pagkaperahan nila. trust my advice dude, i'm a lawyer by profession.

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    pa disconnect mo yung electric and water then get the services of a lawyer to get the back rentals. next time ask/require the tenant to issue post dated checks for rentals.

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