Going rate for auto mechanic?

**lowslowbenz** · August 6th, 2013 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by wowiesy

so 12k for helper (about 500/day)

18k to 25k sa chief / senior mechanic (750 - 1041/day) ? so kwenta pa bonus and other benefits?

that's manila rate na? does logic na mas mura sa probinsya hold true? o irrelevant sa mechanic?

so how do you determine experience / competence? purely years of experience lang ang basis?

18k is Negros rate. He gets all mandated government benefits, plus the usual SSS, Tax deductions, etc. We provide him and his family with free housing and his kids, elementary education (public). Manila rate would usually be higher. You might want to ask a possible applicant on what kind of trucks (Japanese/American/Chinese/Korean) he has worked on? If he knows engine, transmission, underchassis overhaul, electrical work, so on and so forth, and how many years has he done these types of work.

From there you can (maybe) gauge his capability. You might also want to ask for his desired salary, prior to you hiring him.

Nga pala, you're looking for a "truck" mechanic, not an auto mechanic. Trucks have a few differences in operating systems from cars.

**wowiesy** · August 9th, 2013 06:25 PM

What can you suggest?

Ang situation namin ay ganito (kung kaya napa post ako ng ganitong thread)

We have a manufacturing and distribution company. We have an existing fleet (age old fleet - youngest truck is at least 10 years old).. we have the motorpool, drivers and helpers to do the deliveries. We also rely on third party providers / haulers to complement the pool.

The drivers aren't getting any younger.. mabagal ang turnover.. most of them with us are at least 5 - 10 years na sa amin.. so are the helpers... motor pool din...

We do our own repairs, buy our own spare parts, etc.. we need more 3rd party sana... since deliveries and routes are getting more and more challenging.. trade is getting more and more demanding...

Our rate right now for our motorpool is way below what was posted here... so one thing is taasan... before.. when my father used to handle a great part of the business.. nasimulan yung may extra income yung mga tao... like even if they are paid (relatively low) on daily for their regular workhours... my father gives them "special projects" na pakyawan style... as extra income.... they tend to do it also within regular work hours... so umabot sa punto na iniintay na lang is yung "special projects" at yung regular maintenance jobs ay di na kumikilos .. (at least sa motorpool ko kumikilos pa rin, pero yung sa production maintenance people ko.. ang hirap talaga pakilusin pag regular maintenance works... that's a different story na)...

so now.. due to the age of our fleet.. may mga major works na na requirement... humihirit yung motorpool na ayusin daw muna ang daily rate nila, before they do OT work (grabe no.. sila pa nag dedemand... )... dati mga special projects sa kanila ay purely body work.. no engine or transmission or underchassis work.... hesitant ang brother ko na ibigay yun under special projects... so solution lang ng brother ko is to get extra help... pero risky yung extra help baka maging "forever extra help" na...

other option sana is for major works, ipa outsource na sa labas... not sure whether full outsource (labor and materials) or purely labor ang uubra (usually sa mga special projects namin with our people.. labor only ang usapan)... however.. wala pa kami mahanap na possible provider ng labor only na outsource sa labas (Bulacan area pala kami)...

kung sakali mangyari yung outsource.. at least for major works lang... pero yung regular PMS.. dapat sa loob..

on one hand.. gusto makatipid ng company... on the other hand... habang may fleet ako.. i know i need to maintain the motorpool... di naman willing company to just pay the employees separation para lang lipat sa 3PL lahat ng agad agad.... pero gradually perhaps.. as long as 3PL pool is kept updated...

other side of the problem... kulang kami ng pool ng 3PL providers... so hirap kumilos... forced to good na na dapat ayusin trak...

what do you guys think ?

pasok naman sa minimum wage law yung mga rate and benefits ng tao.. yun nga lang.. mas mababa sa industry rate... on one hand.. di namin core business yung trucking / logistics... pero on the other hand.. kailangan yun delivery... on on hand.. medyo mahina kami humanap ng alternatives (alternative mechanics, alternative haulers, etc)... on the other.. masyado mabait sa mga empleyado...

**CLAVEL3699** · August 10th, 2013 10:25 AM

Almost pareho ang situation natin but magkaiba tayo nang approached.

I manage our entire Supply Chain kasama dito ang distribution of products ( our own trucks and 3rd party truckers ) and transportation ( maintenance ).

Yung mga trucks namin ay puro galing subic ( means mga 10yrs na dun ) and mga 5 years more a amin. Ang ginagawa ko may mga kausap na ako mga mekaniko ( dalawa sila for competition ) from outside na accredited supplier of services namin. It mean that dumaan sila sa process na magaling sila at may sariling tao, with tools, with fix rates. Kung may sira ang mga trucks namin we ask them tingnan nila then bigay sila quote dahil may competition nagiging pababaan ang bigay nang rate plus may mga existing history rate na kami kaya may comparison.

Sa warehouse namin sila gumagawa para makita nang supervisor ko ang mga ginagawa nila.

Regarding parts may mga kinuha na din kami supplier nang parts at per sample basis kami sa kanila.

Regarding 3rd party truckers sobra dami nila... I have 5 providers right now sa fleet ko. kayang kaya ko magdictate nang price coz ang dami nila pwede ko sila hindi bigyan nang byahe kung magtataas sila or pangit service nila. ( meron din sila supplier appraisal na ginagawa every 3months )

Regarding sa mga tao namin na drivers and helper most of them matatagal na as in since naestablished ang company. Katulad din nang sabi mo noon may mga katigasan nang ulo sila kasi matatagal na but now naputol ko na mga sungay nila. Dahil naglagay kami nang performance evaluation nila every sem at doon nakikita kung gaano sila kaeffective at kung pwede namin sila tanggalin due to non performance ( as per labor law ).

By the way tiga bulacan din kami.

**crazy_boy** · August 10th, 2013 10:53 AM

Yan ang mahirap pag in house ang talyer. Sa work ko, naka outsourced and logistics and distribution. Para iwas sakit ng ulo na. Pag absent palang driver tapos na araw mo. In your case naman, ayaw kumilos ng mga mechanic niyo. So delayed buong supply chain.

Anyway, BTT, kung nasanay sa special projects yung mga tao niyo, mahihirapan kayo alisin yan. Parang naging tradition na e. Baka pwede maging basis for terminaation yan since ayaw na gawin yung mga basic na gawain.

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**CLAVEL3699** · August 10th, 2013 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

YAnyway, BTT, kung nasanay sa special projects yung mga tao niyo, mahihirapan kayo alisin yan. Parang naging tradition na e. Baka pwede maging basis for terminaation yan since ayaw na gawin yung mga basic na gawain.

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katakutan nila may mag isip na magtayo nang UNION... lalo sasakit ang ulo nila. Nope hindi pwede maging basis dapat lahat documented... May process of work appraisal at pinag agreehan nang both parties ( superior and staff ) at 2yrs consecutive na bagsak saka lang sya pwedeng gawing basis for termination for NON performance.

Kaya kami hindi na kami naghihire nang regular puro cooperative status na.

**wowiesy** · August 10th, 2013 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

katakutan nila may mag isip na magtayo nang UNION... lalo sasakit ang ulo nila. Nope hindi pwede maging basis dapat lahat documented... May process of work appraisal at pinag agreehan nang both parties ( superior and staff ) at 2yrs consecutive na bagsak saka lang sya pwedeng gawing basis for termination for NON performance.

Kaya kami hindi na kami naghihire nang regular puro cooperative status na.

im still here in china having difficulty accessing pm functions dito sa yapatalk hoe u can pm me ur contact info so we can furyher exchange notes

ok din yung self managed yung supply chain problem ko we lack people that can ably manage the system... either kamag anak na mahina sa people mgmt / management approach o kamag anak din na malinaw pa sa araw ang conflict of interest... sila lang gor now ang namuno... im looking for somebody to professionally manage it sana...

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**Retz** · August 10th, 2013 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by wowiesy

Ano na po now going / hiring rate sa mekaniko kung iemploy ng company for motorpool?

Mostly trucks like 10W wing van, forward 6W trucks..

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Sa abroad ba sir?

**CLAVEL3699** · August 12th, 2013 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by wowiesy

im still here in china having difficulty accessing pm functions dito sa yapatalk hoe u can pm me ur contact info so we can furyher exchange notes

ok din yung self managed yung supply chain problem ko we lack people that can ably manage the system... either kamag anak na mahina sa people mgmt / management approach o kamag anak din na malinaw pa sa araw ang conflict of interest... sila lang gor now ang namuno... im looking for somebody to professionally manage it sana...

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If you want to grow the business and expand the supply chain management in your company mas hindi maganda na kamag anak ( dapat kapatid hindi pinasan or kamag anak lamang ) ang humawak. Yah nandun na tayo na mapapagkatiwalaan but nawawala ang cross check / balance nang process and prcedure to make supply chain improve. Ang supply chain kasi hindi sya basta malagay lang ang process and procedure ay tatakbo na eto nang maganda, kailangan eto nang constant improvement and checking if the process and procedure is still working coz everyday have different problems encountered and business environment constant changing na kailangan mag adapt ang supply chain.

Supply chain should co-exist with sales... dahil hindi uunlad ang sales kung hindi maganda ang support nang supply chain. Maganda ang produkto at mababa ang presyo pero hindi naman maganda ang delivery nyo, malamang mabwisit ang mga kustomer at sa iba bumili.

YM ko pwede ka magPM... shahn_101*yahoo.com nagPM na din ako syo nang contact number ko.